After Thoughts Ravens game 1#

[agreen_112]

Like I said, MB does a good job of always having a solid O'line.

Yeah, they were "real solid" all through the 90's, particularly the group that regularly escorted the passhrushers to Klingler, and of course last year's group was "real solid" too, especially at the "matador" position.

Ocho Cinco... His got ALL you haters out there shutting the f**kK up-O. He's my boy I don't care what any of you say. 85 is the real deal.

Yeah that drive killing fumble was awesome, dude. What a fine, fine player he is

MB is genius.

...at stealing taxpayer money, absolutely. Football? Not so much.

Why is COFFMAN not in there on 3rd and long or other passing plays? There is no answer for that. THEY HAVE TO GET COFFMAN in the game!! Have to!

Not that someone like you would understand, but see, the rules dont allow for all 53 players to be dressed on Sunday....8 have to be placed on an inactive list. Coffman was on the inactive list. So he could not come out and play on "3rd and long or other passing plays"....or any plays for that matter. If he isn't ready, he isnt ready. He is a rookie, and he started behind because of his injury. You might want to write this on a piece of paper and pin it to your shirt so you can remember.

1. Anthony Munoz. Willie Anderson. Andrew Whitworth... We've always had good lines. There may be a bad seed here and there but for the most part MB keeps good players at O-line.

2. Everyone makes mistakes. Except if your name is TJJack. Palmer was right there to lift help lift his head. s**t happens. Chad's still the best reciever in the game.

3. MB is a genius for keeping Chad and cutting TJ. Enough said.

4. I'm speaking for the future.. I'll put all my zone dollars they got hidden somewhere that Coffman will be active next week... Coats is absolute garbage at catching the ball. He shouldn't even be playing in the NFL with hands like that. I can see dropping one ball, but two? Carson hit him right on the button.

[redsbengalsbucks]

4. I'm speaking for the future.. I'll put all my zone dollars they got hidden somewhere that Coffman will be active next week... Coats is absolute garbage at catching the ball. He shouldn't even be playing in the NFL with hands like that. I can see dropping one ball, but two? Carson hit him right on the button.

Cant hurt the running game because of two dropped passes, until Coffman can block I dont want to see him anywhere near the field.

[agreen_112]

I've been playing catch up today with all the threads.

You see, yesterday was ArmyBengal Jr's. 3rd birthday. We went out and about for most of the morning and into the afternoon. I thought I would be back, but we were having fun and I missed the whole first half and the beginning of the 2nd. We did however, wear our jerseys out for the day. We had a great day together and it was all topped off with another last minute win by the Bengals.

All I have seen are highlights from the first half so far, so I don't have much to comment on from that.

Chad's fumble was just sloppy from what I saw on the highlight reel, but he's still doing very well so yes Agreen, I'm happy for the most part.

Benson is an absolute beast.

Carson was great at the end again, but wish he would stop staring down receivers.

The defense will continue to keep us in games, but that Ray Rice TD, was laziness on the players part thinking the play was over. Play to the whistle.

St. Louis ?? The team needs to stop trying to polish that turd and flush it already...

Henry's leg must still be hurting, as I've never seen him run down from behind like that.

Leonard covering up the botched snap on the final drive was heads up and saved that drive.

I'm sure there's more, but will finish by saying I hope the team remains focused as the Texans can make plays on offense. I don't think anyone is afraid of the Bengals and don't think they should be, but will say that I still don't think the Bengals are getting much respect for doing what they have to this point.

Watching the locker room celebrate the win, giving Zimmer the game ball and listening to what Zimmer had to say brought a tear to my eye.

Yes, I can admit that and good for him and his family...

Congrats man.. I can't believe he's 3 already. My daughter just turned 3 in July... I took her to a buddies house this Sunday to watch the game. We were jumping and screaming together for the win, it was beautiful. She's definitely going to be a Bengals fan... Only problem, she looks at me and says, "daddy, I wanna be a cheerleader." Anyway, I'm loving the 3 year age.

Yes, Chad is on fire. Him and Carson are well on their way to doing big things this season. I'm not so sure that you were a "hater" though, that was mostly the ignorant fans.

Things I heard this offseason (before Hard Knocks):

Chad's getting old, he's not the same player as he was in '05...

He's not worth the headache...

He drops everything, it wouldn't hurt us to lose him anyway...

Chad sucks...

Chad is NOT even a top 10 reciever anymore...

etc...

Two words for 'em... Child Please!

[agreen_112]

4. I'm speaking for the future.. I'll put all my zone dollars they got hidden somewhere that Coffman will be active next week... Coats is absolute garbage at catching the ball. He shouldn't even be playing in the NFL with hands like that. I can see dropping one ball, but two? Carson hit him right on the button.

Cant hurt the running game because of two dropped passes, until Coffman can block I dont want to see him anywhere near the field.

Which is why I said "passing plays." It wouldn't have hurt the Bengals one bit to put Coffman in there instead of Coats...

Here's the problem. Carson's a professional. He doesn't need work 1-on-1 with the reciever neccessarily in a situation like that. He knows where everyone is at at all times. How much work do you think Carson and Coats have actually had 1-on-1? Probably not too much. Soooo, when the ball is thrown to Coats, in a game situation, his turd inexperience shows. He just does NOT have the ability to catch those kinds of passes and it showed. You're a blind man if you disagree.

Now, why not put Coffman in there in place of Coats in that exact same situation? Why not let Coffman run routes?

You may say that the Defense would know right away that we're throwing the ball whenever Coffman comes into the huddle... Fine. It's 3rd and long, they know we're throwing anyway.

We all know Coffman has struggled blocking, thanks RedsBengals for clearing that up for me..

[skyline]

4. I'm speaking for the future.. I'll put all my zone dollars they got hidden somewhere that Coffman will be active next week... Coats is absolute garbage at catching the ball. He shouldn't even be playing in the NFL with hands like that. I can see dropping one ball, but two? Carson hit him right on the button.

Cant hurt the running game because of two dropped passes, until Coffman can block I dont want to see him anywhere near the field.

Which is why I said "passing plays." It wouldn't have hurt the Bengals one bit to put Coffman in there instead of Coats...

Here's the problem. Carson's a professional. He doesn't need work 1-on-1 with the reciever neccessarily in a situation like that. He knows where everyone is at at all times. How much work do you think Carson and Coats have actually had 1-on-1? Probably not too much. Soooo, when the ball is thrown to Coats, in a game situation, his turd inexperience shows. He just does NOT have the ability to catch those kinds of passes and it showed. You're a blind man if you disagree.

Now, why not put Coffman in there in place of Coats in that exact same situation? Why not let Coffman run routes?

You may say that the Defense would know right away that we're throwing the ball whenever Coffman comes into the huddle... Fine. It's 3rd and long, they know we're throwing anyway.

We all know Coffman has struggled blocking, thanks RedsBengals for clearing that up for me..

From what I've read, they've been using a lot of two tight end sets on running downs. Not so effective if one of the TEs gets knocked on his butt every time.

Besides, do you not trust the coaches on this one? I'm sure they're just as eager to get their third rounder into the mix as you are. But, if at this point they're still putting Coats in over Coffman, that should tell you something. He's just not ready.

As soon as he is, I'm sure they'll be more than happy to make the move.

[agreen_112]

4. I'm speaking for the future.. I'll put all my zone dollars they got hidden somewhere that Coffman will be active next week... Coats is absolute garbage at catching the ball. He shouldn't even be playing in the NFL with hands like that. I can see dropping one ball, but two? Carson hit him right on the button.

Cant hurt the running game because of two dropped passes, until Coffman can block I dont want to see him anywhere near the field.

Which is why I said "passing plays." It wouldn't have hurt the Bengals one bit to put Coffman in there instead of Coats...

Here's the problem. Carson's a professional. He doesn't need work 1-on-1 with the reciever neccessarily in a situation like that. He knows where everyone is at at all times. How much work do you think Carson and Coats have actually had 1-on-1? Probably not too much. Soooo, when the ball is thrown to Coats, in a game situation, his turd inexperience shows. He just does NOT have the ability to catch those kinds of passes and it showed. You're a blind man if you disagree.

Now, why not put Coffman in there in place of Coats in that exact same situation? Why not let Coffman run routes?

You may say that the Defense would know right away that we're throwing the ball whenever Coffman comes into the huddle... Fine. It's 3rd and long, they know we're throwing anyway.

We all know Coffman has struggled blocking, thanks RedsBengals for clearing that up for me..

From what I've read, they've been using a lot of two tight end sets on running downs. Not so effective if one of the TEs gets knocked on his butt every time.

Besides, do you not trust the coaches on this one? I'm sure they're just as eager to get their third rounder into the mix as you are. But, if at this point they're still putting Coats in over Coffman, that should tell you something. He's just not ready.

As soon as he is, I'm sure they'll be more than happy to make the move.

Seriously, Sky, you have to read the whole post. Did I say to put Coffman in over Coats on the 2 TE running plays?

NO. I very clearly said that you MUST put in Coffman on those "PASSING PLAYS." A guy who Palmer can trust.

[skyline]

4. I'm speaking for the future.. I'll put all my zone dollars they got hidden somewhere that Coffman will be active next week... Coats is absolute garbage at catching the ball. He shouldn't even be playing in the NFL with hands like that. I can see dropping one ball, but two? Carson hit him right on the button.

Cant hurt the running game because of two dropped passes, until Coffman can block I dont want to see him anywhere near the field.

Which is why I said "passing plays." It wouldn't have hurt the Bengals one bit to put Coffman in there instead of Coats...

Here's the problem. Carson's a professional. He doesn't need work 1-on-1 with the reciever neccessarily in a situation like that. He knows where everyone is at at all times. How much work do you think Carson and Coats have actually had 1-on-1? Probably not too much. Soooo, when the ball is thrown to Coats, in a game situation, his turd inexperience shows. He just does NOT have the ability to catch those kinds of passes and it showed. You're a blind man if you disagree.

Now, why not put Coffman in there in place of Coats in that exact same situation? Why not let Coffman run routes?

You may say that the Defense would know right away that we're throwing the ball whenever Coffman comes into the huddle... Fine. It's 3rd and long, they know we're throwing anyway.

We all know Coffman has struggled blocking, thanks RedsBengals for clearing that up for me..

From what I've read, they've been using a lot of two tight end sets on running downs. Not so effective if one of the TEs gets knocked on his butt every time.

Besides, do you not trust the coaches on this one? I'm sure they're just as eager to get their third rounder into the mix as you are. But, if at this point they're still putting Coats in over Coffman, that should tell you something. He's just not ready.

As soon as he is, I'm sure they'll be more than happy to make the move.

Seriously, Sky, you have to read the whole post. Did I say to put Coffman in over Coats on the 2 TE running plays?

NO. I very clearly said that you MUST put in Coffman on those "PASSING PLAYS." A guy who Palmer can trust.

I understood your post quite well.

Do you plan to keep 3 active TEs on your roster? Who are you going to deactivate?

It's possible that I'm missing something here, but I thought they were only dressing 2 TEs on Sunday.

[redsbengalsbucks]

4. I'm speaking for the future.. I'll put all my zone dollars they got hidden somewhere that Coffman will be active next week... Coats is absolute garbage at catching the ball. He shouldn't even be playing in the NFL with hands like that. I can see dropping one ball, but two? Carson hit him right on the button.

Cant hurt the running game because of two dropped passes, until Coffman can block I dont want to see him anywhere near the field.

Which is why I said "passing plays." It wouldn't have hurt the Bengals one bit to put Coffman in there instead of Coats...

Here's the problem. Carson's a professional. He doesn't need work 1-on-1 with the reciever neccessarily in a situation like that. He knows where everyone is at at all times. How much work do you think Carson and Coats have actually had 1-on-1? Probably not too much. Soooo, when the ball is thrown to Coats, in a game situation, his turd inexperience shows. He just does NOT have the ability to catch those kinds of passes and it showed. You're a blind man if you disagree.

Now, why not put Coffman in there in place of Coats in that exact same situation? Why not let Coffman run routes?

You may say that the Defense would know right away that we're throwing the ball whenever Coffman comes into the huddle... Fine. It's 3rd and long, they know we're throwing anyway.

We all know Coffman has struggled blocking, thanks RedsBengals for clearing that up for me..

You hurt the running game by having a TE active that cant block, if Foschi or Coats, whoever is the other active TE goes down your running game is crap. As it is told he cant pass block either, so he needs to be inactive until he can do his total job.

[ArmyBengal]

They have absolutely gelled as a team. No matter what Brad St. Louis does snapping the ball, they say f**k it and win anyway. No matter Mike Zimmer loses his wife Vikki days before the game, they win anyway. No matter membengal keeps starting game threads and remarking the impossibility of continued last second wins, they win anyway!

Aaron my man. You walk point again next week!

Tell me you didn't mean how this appears?

The team jells and I'm happy about it? Yeah. I meant that. Brad St. Louis keeps screwing up, yet the Bengals win? Yeah. I meant that. Our defensive coordinator Mike Zimmer loses his wife, yet finds a way to go to work and get a win in spite of it which brings me joy? Yeah. I meant that too.

If I you have any other problems in your reading comprehension, I'd be more than happy to help you out.

You need to f**king chill out! Quit being so damn defensive when someone asks you an honest question! You worded it perfectly the second time, it just didn't sound right to me the way you said it the first time!

Supa, I can't help you with your interpretation of my words. No other member here had an issue with them within that post.

If I may help out, if you look at what you highlighted Supa, you included the "no matter" at the end of your bolded quote to a sentence it didn't belong to. That "no matter" was about Mem starting game threads not his opinion of Zim's wife passing away. I might be off, but to keep things cool, I thought I would point out how I read that. And yeah Billy, no celebration thread additions ?? Shame... Then again, the whole superstitious thing seems to be working out, so tread lightly. I now watch all games without any lights on in the room the game is on in, so it keeps getting stranger by the week...

[ArmyBengal]

I had forgotten that you had one right before I did. My youngest will be 3 in a couple of weeks, I hope his B-day goes as well as your sons did. Wont be a Bengals win on Nov. 3rd though.

Congrats man.. I can't believe he's 3 already. My daughter just turned 3 in July... I took her to a buddies house this Sunday to watch the game. We were jumping and screaming together for the win, it was beautiful. She's definitely going to be a Bengals fan... Only problem, she looks at me and says, "daddy, I wanna be a cheerleader." Anyway, I'm loving the 3 year age.

Thanks guys, I appreciate it. When I ask him who his team is, he responds "BENGALS" and I then ask him what do Bengals fans say and he yells back, "WHODEY !!!".

Yeah, good times !!!

[TJJackson]

1. Anthony Munoz. Willie Anderson. Andrew Whitworth... We've always had good lines. There may be a bad seed here and there but for the most part MB keeps good players at O-line.

Anthony Munoz. Willie Anderson. Andrew Whitworth - these are the names of good offensive lineman, not a good offensive line overall.

Your exact claim was/is "Like I said, MB does a good job of always having a solid O'line." Uhm, no.

Then again, a blithering idiot like you probably does think the horrendously bad lines of the 90s and the line last year was "solid". Maybe you should go look up the pic of Carson again, then one where he's walking off the field, towel over his head, face covered in blood.

2. Everyone makes mistakes. Except if your name is TJJack. Palmer was right there to lift help lift his head. s**t happens. Chad's still the best reciever in the game.

He's not top 10, and probably not even top 20, despite playing better than he did when he purposefully tanked the entire season last year. Get your tongue out of his ass and do some actual research.

Oh, and a highly paid "professional" like him is told over and over again to secure the ball. This is the kind of "mistake" a highly compensated "professional" like him is not supposed to make. But we all know one has put quotation marks around the word "professional" when applying it to Chad. He is paid like one, yes, but does not act like one.

3. MB is a genius for keeping Chad and cutting TJ. Enough said.

Thats not what you said. You said "MB is genius.". Period. He isn't. You want to restate? Fine. Admit that what you originally said is wrong, then. But given your lack of mental acuity, I can see where you personally might think he really --IS-- a genius. You probably also think Bob Bedinghaus is a genius.

4. I'm speaking for the future.. I'll put all my zone dollars they got hidden somewhere that Coffman will be active next week... Coats is absolute garbage at catching the ball. He shouldn't even be playing in the NFL with hands like that. I can see dropping one ball, but two? Carson hit him right on the button.

Uhm again, thats not what you said. You used the word "is". Your exact statement was "Why is COFFMAN not in there on 3rd and long or other passing plays?" Check your 2nd grade textbooks, you know, the ones you had last year, you'll find that "is" is present tense. Present. As in Now. As in "not the future" So no, thats not what you said and thats not what you meant. You were and are wrong, plain and simple. Ludicrous, as usual.

And Coats played well against the Browns, not that you'd notice. Are you even aware that we lost our number 1 and number 2 tight end for the year with injuries? Probably not. Are you aware that Coats does other things beside catching passes? Again, probably not. Are you aware that if he coaches felt Coffman was ready to take over for Coats or Foschi, he'd be in there for them? Yet again, probably not.

You said you were kicked off the .com board. I understand that completely, and can only hope that blessed event occurs here at some point.

[HoosierCat]

TJ Jackson said...agreen said...TJ Jackson said...agreen said...TJ Jackson said...blah blah blah who gives a sh*t, right TJ?

[TJJackson]

I care when some moron traipses in here selling absolute falsehood as truth from the mouth of god.

Agreen in a nutshell

[BengalszoneBilly]

To be fair, Billy, I take issue with all of your words.

Less words, more boobs. Seriously...I'm disappointed in you. Not one celebratory post this season? It's like growing up and finding out that your parents are only human after all.

Sorry to disappoint Eric, but I'm very superstitious. I haven't posted a single breast as I did in years past, and the Bengals are playing far beyond my expectations. I'm not about to change that now. Let 'em win a few playoff games, and the boobage will return, I promise you.

[Arizona]

I just moved back to Baltimore from NYC two weeks ago, and neither the Ravens or Michigan can win a game. Just sayin...

[redsbengalsbucks]

I just moved back to Baltimore from NYC two weeks ago, and neither the Ravens or Michigan can win a game. Just sayin...

No offense, but please stay in Baltimore.

[ArmyBengal]

Sounds like the superstitions are still strong in sports !!! Also sounds like a new thread topic...

[Ickey44]

I just moved back to Baltimore from NYC two weeks ago, and neither the Ravens or Michigan can win a game. Just sayin...

Yeah, I'm still pretty mad at RichRod not putting Forcier out for the last drive...

[agreen_112]

4. I'm speaking for the future.. I'll put all my zone dollars they got hidden somewhere that Coffman will be active next week... Coats is absolute garbage at catching the ball. He shouldn't even be playing in the NFL with hands like that. I can see dropping one ball, but two? Carson hit him right on the button.

Cant hurt the running game because of two dropped passes, until Coffman can block I dont want to see him anywhere near the field.

Which is why I said "passing plays." It wouldn't have hurt the Bengals one bit to put Coffman in there instead of Coats...

Here's the problem. Carson's a professional. He doesn't need work 1-on-1 with the reciever neccessarily in a situation like that. He knows where everyone is at at all times. How much work do you think Carson and Coats have actually had 1-on-1? Probably not too much. Soooo, when the ball is thrown to Coats, in a game situation, his turd inexperience shows. He just does NOT have the ability to catch those kinds of passes and it showed. You're a blind man if you disagree.

Now, why not put Coffman in there in place of Coats in that exact same situation? Why not let Coffman run routes?

You may say that the Defense would know right away that we're throwing the ball whenever Coffman comes into the huddle... Fine. It's 3rd and long, they know we're throwing anyway.

We all know Coffman has struggled blocking, thanks RedsBengals for clearing that up for me..

You hurt the running game by having a TE active that cant block, if Foschi or Coats, whoever is the other active TE goes down your running game is crap. As it is told he cant pass block either, so he needs to be inactive until he can do his total job.

Yeah you're right cause Coats did a very good job at doing his part... I mean the ball hit him right in the bread basket. TWICE!

And yes TJ, I do believe that Brat has had his genius moments. Finding and pulling for OchoCinco in the year he was drafted has made me a supporter of Brat. If it weren't for Brat, there would be NO 85 in cincinnati.

[COB]

You said you were kicked off the .com board. I understand that completely, and can only hope that blessed event occurs here at some point.

Whaa? Ban Agreen? Why in the world would anyone ban Agreen? He's nothing but positive, puts up good and entertaining posts, and is as Bengal-crazed as they come.

I would miss him a lot if you banned him, so if anyone is considering banning Agreen, please don't do it.

[jonahdsage]

I just moved back to Baltimore from NYC two weeks ago, and neither the Ravens or Michigan can win a game. Just sayin...

I say the 'zone chips in and buys you an RV. Cover your expenses to go from city to city of the teams we play. You could serve as our very own cooler ala las vegas old school casinos.

Thanks for supporting the cause.

[ArmyBengal]

You said you were kicked off the .com board. I understand that completely, and can only hope that blessed event occurs here at some point.

Whaa? Ban Agreen? Why in the world would anyone ban Agreen? He's nothing but positive, puts up good and entertaining posts, and is as Bengal-crazed as they come.

I would miss him a lot if you banned him, so if anyone is considering banning Agreen, please don't do it.

Not happening...

There are many people here that don't necessarily share the same opinion and that is what makes the board more enjoyable. I don't think anything the guys that have been here for a while say are meant to outrage any of the other members and how people repsond to those opinions is on them.

Now when you get someone that is making the job of the mods more difficult and bogging down the board with crap, then yeah, we will address. Until then, I will take the "troll" barbs as a simple way for one member to get under the skin of another.

[agreen_112]

You said you were kicked off the .com board. I understand that completely, and can only hope that blessed event occurs here at some point.

Whaa? Ban Agreen? Why in the world would anyone ban Agreen? He's nothing but positive, puts up good and entertaining posts, and is as Bengal-crazed as they come.

I would miss him a lot if you banned him, so if anyone is considering banning Agreen, please don't do it.

That's what I got banned for. For supporting Chris Henry and Odell Thurman when everyone else was out for blood. I said that a DUI wasn't that serious (in a legal, not moral stance) and got into with Joe_F_from_Florence, he's a Florence Police Officer and apparently a very uptight moderator who thinks he's the almighty over at the .com... Whatever, this site is the best. I'm glad I got banned.

[Ickey44]

You said you were kicked off the .com board. I understand that completely, and can only hope that blessed event occurs here at some point.

Whaa? Ban Agreen? Why in the world would anyone ban Agreen? He's nothing but positive, puts up good and entertaining posts, and is as Bengal-crazed as they come.

I would miss him a lot if you banned him, so if anyone is considering banning Agreen, please don't do it.

That's what I got banned for. For supporting Chris Henry and Odell Thurman when everyone else was out for blood. I said that a DUI wasn't that serious (in a legal, not moral stance) and got into with Joe_F_from_Florence, he's a Florence Police Officer and apparently a very uptight moderator who thinks he's the almighty over at the .com... Whatever, this site is the best. I'm glad I got banned.

Well, right or wrong, trying to tell a police officer from anywhere that a DUI isn't serious is plain stupid. I'm sure police officers see more people injured and killed from drunk drivers than we'll ever know.

Not something you should be banned for, but IMO that's a stupid stance for you to take. DUI's are very serious.

[agreen_112]

You said you were kicked off the .com board. I understand that completely, and can only hope that blessed event occurs here at some point.

Whaa? Ban Agreen? Why in the world would anyone ban Agreen? He's nothing but positive, puts up good and entertaining posts, and is as Bengal-crazed as they come.

I would miss him a lot if you banned him, so if anyone is considering banning Agreen, please don't do it.

That's what I got banned for. For supporting Chris Henry and Odell Thurman when everyone else was out for blood. I said that a DUI wasn't that serious (in a legal, not moral stance) and got into with Joe_F_from_Florence, he's a Florence Police Officer and apparently a very uptight moderator who thinks he's the almighty over at the .com... Whatever, this site is the best. I'm glad I got banned.

Well, right or wrong, trying to tell a police officer from anywhere that a DUI isn't serious is plain stupid. I'm sure police officers see more people injured and killed from drunk drivers than we'll ever know.

Not something you should be banned for, but IMO that's a stupid stance for you to take. DUI's are very serious.

You're right, they are very serious. But lets face it. Henry, or any other NFL player for that matter won't get kicked out of the NFL for a single DUI. That's the bottom line, period. There's no need to hate on Henry and want him gone for getting a DUI. They were stupid and I was right.