So hows the revolution going?

[HoosierCat]

I'm not here to "pimp" the revolution, guys, but since someone brought it up... don't fool yourselves into thinking that MB doesn't feel public pressure. back when he took a major step outside the box and hired marvin, he stated it was because of sagging attendence and public pressure.

I have no recollection of Mikey saying anything of the kind. I do recall the Bengals having about their worst season ever, which it seems to me sufficient reason for a change. Sagging attendance may have played a role; public pressure certainly did not. As for stepping outside the box, all the final candidates for the job were outsiders: Marvin, Mularkey and Coughlin.

this offseason as well has seen him some name players and appoint hobson, chad, whit and others to BEG for people to buy into the bengals this season. hobson has been the preseason mvp if you, ask me (wish they could have kept dorsey too).

Well, maybe you haven't noticed, but lots of franchises are engaged in various begging schemes right now. The economy sucks and people have better things to do with their money, assuming they have any in the first place. I just read today that the Raiders game is blacked out. The Chargers, Cards and Bengals are all among teams that have nearly had blackouts so far. I don't think Jax will ever be seen on TV in Florida again, and they've been a hell of a lot more successful that the Bengals.

where do you think we would be if everyone just continued to blindly buy into MB's school of skullduggery and offered NO RESISTANCE at all? I really want to know.

Probably about the same place we are now.

[jjvolt]

I'm not here to "pimp" the revolution, guys, but since someone brought it up... don't fool yourselves into thinking that MB doesn't feel public pressure. back when he took a major step outside the box and hired marvin, he stated it was because of sagging attendence and public pressure.

I have no recollection of Mikey saying anything of the kind. I do recall the Bengals having about their worst season ever, which it seems to me sufficient reason for a change. Sagging attendance may have played a role; public pressure certainly did not. As for stepping outside the box, all the final candidates for the job were outsiders: Marvin, Mularkey and Coughlin.

this offseason as well has seen him some name players and appoint hobson, chad, whit and others to BEG for people to buy into the bengals this season. hobson has been the preseason mvp if you, ask me (wish they could have kept dorsey too).

Well, maybe you haven't noticed, but lots of franchises are engaged in various begging schemes right now. The economy sucks and people have better things to do with their money, assuming they have any in the first place. I just read today that the Raiders game is blacked out. The Chargers, Cards and Bengals are all among teams that have nearly had blackouts so far. I don't think Jax will ever be seen on TV in Florida again, and they've been a hell of a lot more successful that the Bengals.

where do you think we would be if everyone just continued to blindly buy into MB's school of skullduggery and offered NO RESISTANCE at all? I really want to know.

Probably about the same place we are now.

you having no recollection of the events that led up to marvin's hiring does not shock me. hobson wrote MB's quotes for all to see on thee web site. Mb sited he did not like dipping attendance and, sadly, ill-will towards his family name.

[HoosierCat]

you having no recollection of the events that led up to marvin's hiring does not shock me. hobson wrote MB's quotes for all to see on thee web site.

Well, then I suppose it will be no challenge for you to produce them, eh?

Mb sited he did not like dipping attendance and, sadly, ill-will towards his family name.

Yep, as I said, he surely wanted to boost the gate. But as for ill-will, please.

[jjvolt]

you having no recollection of the events that led up to marvin's hiring does not shock me. hobson wrote MB's quotes for all to see on thee web site.

Well, then I suppose it will be no challenge for you to produce them, eh?

Mb sited he did not like dipping attendance and, sadly, ill-will towards his family name.

Yep, as I said, he surely wanted to boost the gate. But as for ill-will, please.

are you calling me a liar, hoosier? "eh"?

perhaps you're a little too young or just weren't that focused on the situation back then to recall any of it.

I remember reading those statements that were attributed to Brown via hobson. I don't know/care if I can go back into the offical site's 2002 backlogs and produce that particular piece. I recall him saying that dipping into the 40,000's was not acceptable attendance and niether was the public pressure. I remember something about his grandchildren getting harrassed either at school or at their soccer games, which is unfortunate.

if your enquring mind wants to know that badly, call hobson. his no. is of public record and he will talk to you. he's a pretty nice guy.

[skyline]

you having no recollection of the events that led up to marvin's hiring does not shock me. hobson wrote MB's quotes for all to see on thee web site.

Well, then I suppose it will be no challenge for you to produce them, eh?

Mb sited he did not like dipping attendance and, sadly, ill-will towards his family name.

Yep, as I said, he surely wanted to boost the gate. But as for ill-will, please.

are you calling me a liar, hoosier? "eh"?

perhaps you're a little too young or just weren't that focused on the situation back then to recall any of it.

I remember reading those statements that were attributed to Brown via hobson. I don't know/care if I can go back into the offical site's 2002 backlogs and produce that particular piece. I recall him saying that dipping into the 40,000's was not acceptable attendance and niether was the public pressure. I remember something about his grandchildren getting harrassed either at school or at their soccer games, which is unfortunate.

if your enquring mind wants to know that badly, call hobson. his no. is of public record and he will talk to you. he's a pretty nice guy.

There we have it, folks. Rock-solid proof that WDR and all the freedom fighters are responsible for any success the Bengals have had since hiring Marvin, and any success we may have in years to come. That's comforting...now we know where to address the thank you cards.

Mike Brown may be a terrible football person, but I don't believe he's the evil man people have made him out to be. He wants a winning team just like anyone else...he's just not very good at making it happen. Thankfully, though, he's given Marvin enough freedom to make something happen. I'm still not saying we're a lock for the playoffs this year, but it's hard to deny that we've got a better foundation laid this season than we have in quite a while. Be happy.

[HoosierCat]

are you calling me a liar, hoosier? "eh"?

No, but if you think "public pressure" made any difference to Mikey, then you are a fool.

perhaps you're a little too young or just weren't that focused on the situation back then to recall any of it.

I remember reading those statements that were attributed to Brown via hobson. I don't know/care if I can go back into the offical site's 2002 backlogs and produce that particular piece.

Ah, yes, the "I can't be bothered to back up my assertions" argument.

I recall him saying that dipping into the 40,000's was not acceptable attendance and niether was the public pressure. I remember something about his grandchildren getting harrassed either at school or at their soccer games, which is unfortunate.

Hmmm...y'know, maybe I'm "too young" or "just not that focused," but I'm going to bet all that had to do with the team's miserable performance, not any sort of "public pressure."

if your enquring mind wants to know that badly, call hobson. his no. is of public record and he will talk to you. he's a pretty nice guy.

Well, then he shouldn't have any problem providing you with all the evidence that you need that it was the hard work of talk show callers, banner-fliers and mikebrownsucks.com that got Marvin hired, right?

[HairOnFire]

I'm not here to "pimp" the revolution....

What a pity. You see, I've never actually met a rebel. Sure, I've watched dozens of people defend what they're doing on this very message board, but none of those "pimps" could bring themselves to say they supported the revolution, and neither can you apparently. But no matter, let's see what kind of "less-than-pimping" rant you've got.

... don't kid yourselves and attempt to fool others into thinking that MB doesn't feel public pressure. back when he took a major step outside the box and hired marvin, he stated it was because of sagging attendence and public pressure.

A perfectly normal reaction to perfectly normal pressure and criticism. Granted, it came later than everyone hoped, but there we are.

where do you think we would be if everyone just continued to blindly buy into MB's school of skullduggery and offered NO RESISTANCE at all?

Well, as long as we're still talking about the impact of WDR upon the day to day operations of the Bengals...I think we'd be exactly where we are right now. And I guess that's where this one ends unless you can actually bring your pimp hand into play by listing all of the positive changes forced upon this franchise by WDR.

Can you do that?

chew on that, hair.

Sorry, I don't do crumbs....and that's all you've offered so far.

[gregstephens]

Bengals draw pack of viewers

By John Kiesewetter ? jkiesewetter@enquirer.com ? September 22, 2009

The Bengals won big with TV viewers Sunday, averaging 51 percent of all available TV homes locally for their 31-24 victory over Green Bay.

WKRC-TV (Channel 12) averaged a 30.8 rating (282,960 TV homes) for the CBS telecast from 1-4:15 p.m.

Viewership peaked in the final 15 minutes as the teams traded field goals and time expired during the Packers? final drive. That drew a 38.5 rating (353,700 homes) and a 59 percent audience share .

It was the highest rated Bengals telecast since a Dec.?30, 2007, victory over Miami that had a 31.1 rating and 56 percent audience share.

The Bengals biggest TV audience since 2004 was a 45.2 rating and 66 percent audience share for 45-37 loss against the Indianapolis Colts

Sunday?s ratings fell short of NBC?s Feb. 1 Super Bowl telecast on WLWT-TV (Channel 5) that averaged a 44.7 rating and 62 percent audience share.

Channel 12 is likely to get another big TV audience this Sunday when the Bengals (1-1) play the Steelers (1-1) at 4:15 p.m. at sold-out Paul Brown Stadium.

?That will be a huge (ratings) number,? says Les Vann, Channel 12 vice president and general manager.

Go team

[ShulaSteakhouse]

Um, because the game sold out and people watched in huge numbers? The exact opposite of what the WDR idgits want?

the who-dey "idgits" really want a bona-fide nfl franchise that is capable of or has the potential to string together a few consecutive playoff runs or, eek, dare I say it, a super bowl run. not 1 playoff loss out of the last 20 miserable seasons at the hands of mike brown. personally, I applaud the site. I really don't know why any aware bengals fan would be dead against them.

Because they are rooting for the team to lose. f**k them. And, I have news for them. Losing won't cause change. Losing just causes more suffering.

So, f**k their movement. I want this team to win.

ETA: What COB said. 100%.

I don't see how this is accurate at all.

Also, their TV games get super high ratings locally all the time, this is nothing new, the city has always supported this franchise win or lose, the Reds' also have high ratings regardless.

I don't really see how one win (OMG!) neuters WDR. But whatever.

[BengalszoneBilly]

I don't really see how one win (OMG!) neuters WDR. But whatever.

It doesn't. In fact another season going by without the Bengals making the playoffs only substantiates their argument. Hair can nag at them all he wants, but if Cincy lands out of the post season again, what's he really bitching about? That their agenda made the team play poorly? I think not.

Personally I'm hoping the Bengals step up and kick the s**t out of the Steelers on Sunday. It's a pivotal game and could very well define what happens the rest of the season. We can't continue to be their bitch, and expect to make the playoffs.

Tomorrows final score...

Pittsburgh: 24

Cincinnati: 31

Who Dey!

[jjvolt]

I don't really see how one win (OMG!) neuters WDR. But whatever.

It doesn't. In fact another season going by without the Bengals making the playoffs only substantiates their argument. Hair can nag at them all he wants, but if Cincy lands out of the post season again, what's he really bitching about? That their agenda made the team play poorly? I think not.

Personally I'm hoping the Bengals step up and kick the s**t out of the Steelers on Sunday. It's a pivotal game and could very well define what happens the rest of the season. We can't continue to be their bitch, and expect to make the playoffs.

Tomorrows final score...

Pittsburgh: 24

Cincinnati: 31

Who Dey!

yep, the steelers seem to be our measuring stick. if we beat them sun. then I'll be pretty sure that this team will be in the thick of it at the season's end.

[BengalszoneBilly]

I don't really see how one win (OMG!) neuters WDR. But whatever.

It doesn't. In fact another season going by without the Bengals making the playoffs only substantiates their argument. Hair can nag at them all he wants, but if Cincy lands out of the post season again, what's he really bitching about? That their agenda made the team play poorly? I think not.

Personally I'm hoping the Bengals step up and kick the s**t out of the Steelers on Sunday. It's a pivotal game and could very well define what happens the rest of the season. We can't continue to be their bitch, and expect to make the playoffs.

Tomorrows final score...

Pittsburgh: 24

Cincinnati: 31

Who Dey!

yep, the steelers seem to be our measuring stick. if we beat them sun. then I'll be pretty sure that this team will be in the thick of it at the season's end.

Don't forget the Baltimore Ravens. They finally possess a potent offense to compliment their hard a$$ defense. The Bengals must at least split the season series with these teams to have a shot at the post season.

[membengal]

Um, because the game sold out and people watched in huge numbers? The exact opposite of what the WDR idgits want?

the who-dey "idgits" really want a bona-fide nfl franchise that is capable of or has the potential to string together a few consecutive playoff runs or, eek, dare I say it, a super bowl run. not 1 playoff loss out of the last 20 miserable seasons at the hands of mike brown. personally, I applaud the site. I really don't know why any aware bengals fan would be dead against them.

Because they are rooting for the team to lose. f**k them. And, I have news for them. Losing won't cause change. Losing just causes more suffering.

So, f**k their movement. I want this team to win.

ETA: What COB said. 100%.

I don't see how this is accurate at all.

Also, their TV games get super high ratings locally all the time, this is nothing new, the city has always supported this franchise win or lose, the Reds' also have high ratings regardless.

I don't really see how one win (OMG!) neuters WDR. But whatever.

Because. they. root. for. the. bengals. to. lose.

f**k them.

[HoosierCat]

Gonna be teh suck at WDR this week...

[membengal]

Even for Paul "eat a bag of dicks" Daugherty, this is douche.y. And then some:

/>http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20091003/COL03/310030012/1007/SPT/Bengals+fan+roots+for+team++not+Mike+Brown

[HoosierCat]

I agree. Lame. Especially now. He and the WDR guys just come off as sourpusses who are all upset the Bengals are winning.

Oh, wait, that's what thy actually are...

f**k them.

Yup.

[membengal]

What amazes me is that Daugherty, or the WDR tools, or anyone, thinks that anything that happens with the Bengals would cause Mike Brown to change. In theory, enough losing might. But how much losing is enough? Frankly, 19 years worth hasn't done it. And I don't want to test how far down that hole one must go to get "change".

[jjvolt]

What amazes me is that Daugherty, or the WDR tools, or anyone, thinks that anything that happens with the Bengals would cause Mike Brown to change. In theory, enough losing might. But how much losing is enough? Frankly, 19 years worth hasn't done it. And I don't want to test how far down that hole one must go to get "change".

the losing would never change mike brown. just the people who support the losing can change it . it's not that hard to understand

[HoosierCat]

What amazes me is that Daugherty, or the WDR tools, or anyone, thinks that anything that happens with the Bengals would cause Mike Brown to change. In theory, enough losing might. But how much losing is enough? Frankly, 19 years worth hasn't done it. And I don't want to test how far down that hole one must go to get "change".

the losing would never change mike brown. just the people who support the losing can change it . it's not that hard to understand

No...we can't. Change it, that is, not understand it.

The NFL's revenue-sharing deal means it's impossible to do more than shave a few right-of-the-decimal-points off of his profits.

And even if we could do more, can you imagine Mikey firing his daughter? Her husband? His brother? That's what all the calls for professionalizing the front office come down to.

I would love to see it, but it's not going to happen.

[membengal]

Indeed.

The only thing the WDR bulls**t gets the city is an empty stadium while the Brown clan takes them elsewhere.

[Pidge]

Man, I can't tell you how being 3-1 and top of the division is killing me. Bunch of grown men who've lost the plot after yrs of disappointment. We've all been frustrated but to actually lose one's marbles over it is a tad embarrassing.

The sad thing is, there will be dark days in future yrs and these bozos won't have even been able to enjoy those rare moments of joy.

Misery loves company.

[jjvolt]

What amazes me is that Daugherty, or the WDR tools, or anyone, thinks that anything that happens with the Bengals would cause Mike Brown to change. In theory, enough losing might. But how much losing is enough? Frankly, 19 years worth hasn't done it. And I don't want to test how far down that hole one must go to get "change".

the losing would never change mike brown. just the people who support the losing can change it . it's not that hard to understand

No...we can't. Change it, that is, not understand it.

The NFL's revenue-sharing deal means it's impossible to do more than shave a few right-of-the-decimal-points off of his profits.

And even if we could do more, can you imagine Mikey firing his daughter? Her husband? His brother? That's what all the calls for professionalizing the front office come down to.

I would love to see it, but it's not going to happen.

no one from wdr said "fire your daughter", no one said " put your family members on the unemployment line". noone expects the Browns to be on the unemployment line ,for chrissakes.

c'mon hoosier, you're too smart to believe that that is what wdr is rallying for. stop trying to simplify wdr's objectives. the movement is not that black and white and you know it.

but hey, we're 3-1 and I love it.

[HoosierCat]

no one from wdr said "fire your daughter", no one said " put your family members on the unemployment line". noone expects the Browns to be on the unemployment line ,for chrissakes.

c'mon hoosier, you're too smart to believe that that is what wdr is rallying for. stop trying to simplify wdr's objectives. the movement is not that black and white and you know it.

I'm not simplifying anything. Do you believe Katie and Troy are NFL-caliber execs? If so, you have no problems with the Bengals.

If not...you are calling for them to be canned, right? Mikey won't do that, and what GM will take the job without the power to pick his team?

Dad, fire your daughter. That's WDR in a nutshell. Not. Gonna. Happen.

[jjvolt]

no one from wdr said "fire your daughter", no one said " put your family members on the unemployment line". noone expects the Browns to be on the unemployment line ,for chrissakes.

c'mon hoosier, you're too smart to believe that that is what wdr is rallying for. stop trying to simplify wdr's objectives. the movement is not that black and white and you know it.

I'm not simplifying anything. Do you believe Katie and Troy are NFL-caliber execs? If so, you have no problems with the Bengals.

If not...you are calling for them to be canned, right? Mikey won't do that, and what GM will take the job without the power to pick his team?

Dad, fire your daughter. That's WDR in a nutshell. Not. Gonna. Happen.

[BengalszoneBilly]

no one from wdr said "fire your daughter", no one said " put your family members on the unemployment line". noone expects the Browns to be on the unemployment line ,for chrissakes.

c'mon hoosier, you're too smart to believe that that is what wdr is rallying for. stop trying to simplify wdr's objectives. the movement is not that black and white and you know it.

I'm not simplifying anything. Do you believe Katie and Troy are NFL-caliber execs? If so, you have no problems with the Bengals.

If not...you are calling for them to be canned, right? Mikey won't do that, and what GM will take the job without the power to pick his team?

Dad, fire your daughter. That's WDR in a nutshell. Not. Gonna. Happen.

Dude. You didn't say anything with the quote.