Andre Smith Signs !!!

[BengalByTheBay]

Don't you know Hooiser this thread isn't about Andre but so people can Bicker with Groundhog

That pretty much describes every thread doesn't it?

[volcom69]

So where is it this year? Show me the cap numbers. Do you have them? If not then don't accuse him of salary cap shaving. There's plenty of other things to criticize him about. There's no need to make s**t up.

Go-Bengals usually has pretty accurate cap numbers.

Do your own research. Or don't. I could careless.

Most "fans" like you never do though. You don't want to know, and I don't blame you. Reality is a bear when it comes to the Bengals. Your head is better left in the sand.

Man dude you just need to chill out, its fine if you dont think this team does the right thing or if you think this year will suck, but some people on this bored come here because they are excited about the upcoming season. If you dont want to root for the team, or you think they will suck then fine dont come here then just off this board. By the way were you ever on here before, you sound like this guy named "Barbarian" that used to be on here, man he was a downer.

[Kazkal]

Offtopic:Willie had few tidbits involving Andre about how more likely will be used as blocking TE,probably play 3 Quarters in preseason game and that if Anthony Collins Struggles at all Andre should be the starter by week 5...That it only took him 5 weeks or so to get Ravens offense down...

[derekshank]

Yet another important and informative thread hijacked by our friendly neighborhood troll.

I've got him on ignore... but it doesn't matter anymore. Even without knowing specifically what idiotic rant is contained in one of his posts, it's still impossible to come to this site and get information or relevant discussion without wading through his garbage.

I've loved this site for more than 4 years, and am for the first time considering getting my information strictly from Hobson. *shudder*

I'm not a fan of banning people, but it's a shame that one poster can turn a forum that I've loved for so long into a s**tty internet fan forum with all your stereotypical forum bulls**t short of Godwin's law.

[membengal]

Yet another important and informative thread hijacked by our friendly neighborhood troll.

I've got him on ignore... but it doesn't matter anymore. Even without knowing specifically what idiotic rant is contained in one of his posts, it's still impossible to come to this site and get information or relevant discussion without wading through his garbage.

I've loved this site for more than 4 years, and am for the first time considering getting my information strictly from Hobson. *shudder*

I'm not a fan of banning people, but it's a shame that one poster can turn a forum that I've loved for so long into a s**tty internet fan forum with all your stereotypical forum bulls**t short of Godwin's law.

+1.

Mods, it has become a real problem. I am fantastically loyal to this board, but find myself wondering about other forums more and more as this kind of crap keeps happening on each and every thread.

[Kazkal]

Yet another important and informative thread hijacked by our friendly neighborhood troll.

I've got him on ignore... but it doesn't matter anymore. Even without knowing specifically what idiotic rant is contained in one of his posts, it's still impossible to come to this site and get information or relevant discussion without wading through his garbage.

I've loved this site for more than 4 years, and am for the first time considering getting my information strictly from Hobson. *shudder*

I'm not a fan of banning people, but it's a shame that one poster can turn a forum that I've loved for so long into a s**tty internet fan forum with all your stereotypical forum bulls**t short of Godwin's law.

Maybe a Petition to have it so people won't Quote him anymore so you don't have to read it?

[Ickey44]

Yet another important and informative thread hijacked by our friendly neighborhood troll.

I've got him on ignore... but it doesn't matter anymore. Even without knowing specifically what idiotic rant is contained in one of his posts, it's still impossible to come to this site and get information or relevant discussion without wading through his garbage.

I've loved this site for more than 4 years, and am for the first time considering getting my information strictly from Hobson. *shudder*

I'm not a fan of banning people, but it's a shame that one poster can turn a forum that I've loved for so long into a s**tty internet fan forum with all your stereotypical forum bulls**t short of Godwin's law.

Maybe a Petition to have it so people won't Quote him anymore so you don't have to read it?

But you'd still see the responses. I'm all for banning him, too. The ignorance has gone on way too long. It's impossible to have a logical discussion on any of these topics anymore without some asinine coments from the peanut gallery wishing for players to get hurt or turning every thread into a Mike Brown bashing session.

[derekshank]

Yet another important and informative thread hijacked by our friendly neighborhood troll.

I've got him on ignore... but it doesn't matter anymore. Even without knowing specifically what idiotic rant is contained in one of his posts, it's still impossible to come to this site and get information or relevant discussion without wading through his garbage.

I've loved this site for more than 4 years, and am for the first time considering getting my information strictly from Hobson. *shudder*

I'm not a fan of banning people, but it's a shame that one poster can turn a forum that I've loved for so long into a s**tty internet fan forum with all your stereotypical forum bulls**t short of Godwin's law.

Maybe a Petition to have it so people won't Quote him anymore so you don't have to read it?

I don't have to read it ever. Even if people quote it. I just don't. But that doesn't change the fact that, for instance, this thread is 6 pages long, and roughly half of it is mindless bickering.

It makes the site unusable for the purposes that I come here. If others enjoy it... fine. The desires of the many outweigh the needs of the few. But I miss the good ol' days when more reasonable posters like DPM and Shula were the "bad guys."

Anyway... in the spirit of another thread - if this forum has become a place that fails to bring me entertainment, I'll simply move on and find something else to occupy my time.

[Kazkal]

Well I hope that doesn't become the case Derek always liked reading your opinion on things

[Ickey44]

The problem with this is that we may have jeopardized this season, and so yet again we say "Next Season is Our Year" and the cycle continues. That is, if Carson actually makes it through the season.

You honestly think Andre Smith will make or break this season?

[derekshank]

Yet another important and informative thread hijacked by our friendly neighborhood troll.

I've got him on ignore... but it doesn't matter anymore. Even without knowing specifically what idiotic rant is contained in one of his posts, it's still impossible to come to this site and get information or relevant discussion without wading through his garbage.

I've loved this site for more than 4 years, and am for the first time considering getting my information strictly from Hobson. *shudder*

I'm not a fan of banning people, but it's a shame that one poster can turn a forum that I've loved for so long into a s**tty internet fan forum with all your stereotypical forum bulls**t short of Godwin's law.

Maybe a Petition to have it so people won't Quote him anymore so you don't have to read it?

But you'd still see the responses. I'm all for banning him, too. The ignorance has gone on way too long. It's impossible to have a logical discussion on any of these topics anymore without some asinine coments from the peanut gallery wishing for players to get hurt or turning every thread into a Mike Brown bashing session.

Let me be clear. I've never suggested he be banned. Bearcat can't destroy Bengalszone on his own. He's just one member.

It was a group effort that has caused my disappointment. If everyone ignored him... Even half of the time, it would likely be a non-issue. But there are a handful of people who love to try to take him to task for everything he says. That is how a thread gets hijacked.

He's a narcissist who loves the fact that if nowhere else, his voice is heard here. I hate to say it, but he has become the most important member here. The most popular threads on this board discuss him more than the Bengals. That's why it's no longer interesting to me.

I see no real reason to ban him though... at least in terms of the forum rules. He just happens to be the most irritating person in the world. But the downfall of this board isn't bearcat alone, but also those who choose to engage him in every thread.

[volcom69]

Yet another important and informative thread hijacked by our friendly neighborhood troll.

I've got him on ignore... but it doesn't matter anymore. Even without knowing specifically what idiotic rant is contained in one of his posts, it's still impossible to come to this site and get information or relevant discussion without wading through his garbage.

I've loved this site for more than 4 years, and am for the first time considering getting my information strictly from Hobson. *shudder*

I'm not a fan of banning people, but it's a shame that one poster can turn a forum that I've loved for so long into a s**tty internet fan forum with all your stereotypical forum bulls**t short of Godwin's law.

Maybe a Petition to have it so people won't Quote him anymore so you don't have to read it?

But you'd still see the responses. I'm all for banning him, too. The ignorance has gone on way too long. It's impossible to have a logical discussion on any of these topics anymore without some asinine coments from the peanut gallery wishing for players to get hurt or turning every thread into a Mike Brown bashing session.

Let me be clear. I've never suggested he be banned. Bearcat can't destroy Bengalszone on his own. He's just one member.

It was a group effort that has caused my disappointment. If everyone ignored him... Even half of the time, it would likely be a non-issue. But there are a handful of people who love to try to take him to task for everything he says. That is how a thread gets hijacked.

He's a narcissist who loves the fact that if nowhere else, his voice is heard here. I hate to say it, but he has become the most important member here. The most popular threads on this board discuss him more than the Bengals. That's why it's no longer interesting to me.

I see no real reason to ban him though... at least in terms of the forum rules. He just happens to be the most irritating person in the world. But the downfall of this board isn't bearcat alone, but also those who choose to engage him in every thread.

Well said,Derek today was the first time i said anything just because i was so tired of seeing it, and i agree its time to ignore stupid comments and just move on. So well said.

[Kazkal]

Let me be clear. I've never suggested he be banned. Bearcat can't destroy Bengalszone on his own. He's just one member.

It was a group effort that has caused my disappointment. If everyone ignored him... Even half of the time, it would likely be a non-issue. But there are a handful of people who love to try to take him to task for everything he says. That is how a thread gets hijacked.

He's a narcissist who loves the fact that if nowhere else, his voice is heard here. I hate to say it, but he has become the most important member here. The most popular threads on this board discuss him more than the Bengals. That's why it's no longer interesting to me.

I see no real reason to ban him though... at least in terms of the forum rules. He just happens to be the most irritating person in the world. But the downfall of this board isn't bearcat alone, but also those who choose to engage him in every thread.

True that.

The problem with this is that we may have jeopardized this season, and so yet again we say "Next Season is Our Year" and the cycle continues. That is, if Carson actually makes it through the season.

You honestly think Andre Smith will make or break this season?

Maybe not make or brake the season,But turning those negative runs to positive on the right side sure would help.

[HoosierCat]

[He just happens to be the most irritating person in the world.

So what you are saying is that he is "Esteban" Groundhog...the most interesting loser in the world...

(Sorry, I'm just keeping with the whole "bicker with groudhog" meme. Carry on.)

[Sea Ray]

The best way to shut up negative folks around here is for the Bengals to string a few wins together

[BengalszoneBilly]

The best to shut up negative folks around here is for the Bengals to string a few wins together

Landing in the playoffs might work even better.

[DC_Bengals_Fan]

It makes the site unusable for the purposes that I come here. If others enjoy it... fine. The desires of the many outweigh the needs of the few. But I miss the good ol' days when more reasonable posters like DPM and Shula were the "bad guys."

I think the annoyances caused by trolls of yesteryear fade with time. I can remember weeks when it was impossible to find anything amidst the DPM/Hair flamefests. Seriously annoying. As monotonous as Bearcat/Groundhog/whatever gets with the negativity, his comments at least focus on football, which is more than we can say about some the other trolls who have been here.

I generally just don't respond to people (not being specific here as to names) who can't express coherent thoughts or say something funny or interesting. People like that just aren't worth my time, and I don't much care what they say. That's why I don't entirely get why Groundhog bugs you so - if you think he's such a dink, don't let him get to you. As ya'll have said...even a troll can't have a conversation by himself. And I think others will probably not continue to engage with him when they've had the same conversation too many times.

As to the tone of the comments recently, bear in mind that the single biggest issue of late has been the contract negotiations with Andre, in which the Brown family played the central antagonist. With the deal signed and the season on the way, I think you'll see things change soon.

To bring this halfway on topic (and I think this is a response to Captain Herpes, Ron Mexico) - the question of whether Andre Smith makes or breaks the season is entirely up to Anthony Collins. I hope they can bring Smith along gradually, but if the right side caves in, they may not have the luxury.

[derekshank]

I generally just don't respond to people (not being specific here as to names) who can't express coherent thoughts or say something funny or interesting. People like that just aren't worth my time, and I don't much care what they say. That's why I don't entirely get why Groundhog bugs you so - if you think he's such a dink, don't let him get to you. As ya'll have said...even a troll can't have a conversation by himself. And I think others will probably not continue to engage with him when they've had the same conversation too many times.

You won't be able to find a single time that I've responded to anything Bearcat has said in more than a month. He doesn't get to me, because I don't read his posts. Problem solved, right?

Wrong... because a thread that should be about Andre Smith is filled with 3 pages of bickering between Groundhog and his nemeses. That's what bothers me.

As to the tone of the comments recently, bear in mind that the single biggest issue of late has been the contract negotiations with Andre, in which the Brown family played the central antagonist. With the deal signed and the season on the way, I think you'll see things change soon.

I wish I could believe that were true. But the fact is, I thought that when FA arrived he's stop bitching about last year, when the draft got here, he'd stop bitching about FA, when training camp arrived, he's stop bitching about the draft... and so on. He'll never cease to find stuff to bitch about.

And you know what... fine. That doesn't bother me. But it clearly bothers enough people to engage him. For all the idiotic things he says, he is skilled at getting people riled up. I for one have moved on, but there are a handful of others that seem quite happy to be part of the problem and let him hijack thread after thread.

That's my problem. It's not enough that he's a "dink" but that the ignore function no longer serves a real purpose since I now have to wade through pages of muck simply to find a single post worth reading. It's barely worth it.

[DC_Bengals_Fan]

Wrong... because a thread that should be about Andre Smith is filled with 3 pages of bickering between Groundhog and his nemeses. That's what bothers me.

I get that, but like I said, it'll fade now that Mikey's not a central story line. Legitimately, for the last month, he was. Now we're close to actual, bona fide football. I think pissing and/or moaning won't get play anymore, no matter who does it.

I get the frustration, but like you said, it's the internet. And things get much worse when you have a heavily moderated message board where people get kicked off for saying unpopular things. Sort of the lesser of evils with the goofballs.

In the end, it doesn't bother me when threads go off-topic, because I read fast and have a skillful touch on the page-down button. Just be glad we live in the age of high-speed internet; flamefests were a lot worse in the days of 2400 baud modems. *That* wasted your time. OK, I really sound old.

Anyway, here's some good advice for Groundhog: find some nice pictures like Billy has and people will look forward to your posts!

[BengalszoneBilly]

Anyway, here's some good advice for Groundhog: find some nice pictures like Billy has and people will look forward to your posts!

Considering his history, he has to know at least a few MILFs.

[membengal]

You have re-convinced me, derek.

He's back to ignore.

[Ickey44]

You have re-convinced me, derek.

He's back to ignore.

Ah, what the hell. I'll try it, too.

[TJJackson]

Very well then

Let's all vow not to respond to anything he says, even when we (inevitably) will see some typical profoundly ignorant spew from him quoted in a post from someone we do not have on ignore.

MomsLikeMe.com, you are now dead to me. Ignore is on.

I encourage everyone else, especially the regulars who value good spirited discussion here, to join in the "ignore groundhog day" movement

[Ickey44]

Very well then

Let's all vow not to respond to anything he says, even when we (inevitably) will see some typical profoundly ignorant spew from him quoted in a post from someone we do not have on ignore.

MomsLikeMe.com, you are now dead to me. Ignore is on.

I encourage everyone else, especially the regulars who value good spirited discussion here, to join in the "ignore groundhog day" movement

Viva la revolution!!!

[redsbengalsbucks]

I am a foot soldier in this revolution!