Pidge Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 He was in trouble yrs ago. Before he even signed with us. That's how hardcore the Bengals are./throws signs, cap at a jaunty angle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agreen_112 Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 What's the over/under on how long it will take Agreen to hook up with Tank's girlfriend? I'm saying 5 months.Edit: Please beware Agreen, Tank is, in a word, strapped.I don't know man... I know him and Ced were teammates in Chicago right? I better watch my back... Dude, Central you gotta trust me on this one bro. I'm not bulls**ting. The girl really isn't all that hot. I've been friends with her since she was 14. She's 19 now... Also that story I posted about Ced Benson, Frostee Rucker, and Shayne Graham at a bar in Oxford WAS true. That is where my fling met Cedric. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agreen_112 Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 You're either smoking some good stuff or you're the one who's been drinking on some malt liquor! If I know me it's both. Be honest with yourself man.. You're comparing a JT of 2003 to a Tank Johnson of 2008. There's 5 years difference there. Well, if you're talking about age I've already conceded that point without argument. My problem with the signing centers on who was signed and whether, based soley upon his play, he's really worth the risk. And there's the rub because I don't see a special guy. Instead, all I see is Tank Johnson.Fair enough... But would you rather stick with who we have and perhaps pick up Thorton, or take a risk and sign a Tank Johnson. Sorry but I'm tired of the same old same. Thorton didn't do jack squat for the Bengals in the time he was here. The bottom line is that Tank improves our d-line. Sometimes you have to be willing to take some risks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agreen_112 Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 I garauntee you that Tank has a better year than JT's 2008 numbers!Keep in mind that agreen has also previously guaranteed that Michael Crabtree will have over 1600 catches this coming yearI know, I know, you'd think he meant practice totals plus game totals plus bass fishing totals....but he didn't.I don't know what you're talking about, I've never mentioned Crabtree. You must have me confused with someone else... You really should get a life man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 You're either smoking some good stuff or you're the one who's been drinking on some malt liquor!If I know me it's both. Be honest with yourself man.. You're comparing a JT of 2003 to a Tank Johnson of 2008. There's 5 years difference there.Well, if you're talking about age I've already conceded that point without argument. My problem with the signing centers on who was signed and whether, based soley upon his play, he's really worth the risk. And there's the rub because I don't see a special guy. Instead, all I see is Tank Johnson.Man, Hair. Everybody's accusing you of smoking the "good stuff". Ol' Tip of the Cap to you for that, assuming it's true. An ice cold Old E never hurt nobody. In fact, the combination might be a Sunday afternoon requisite for Bengals fans who have been around since the early 90's.I've often wondered how much of Tank Johnson is actually Tank Johnson, and not Tommie Harris. I guess we'll find out for sure this season, but I'll admit I'm less excited about Tank in '09 than I was for JT in '03. For me, it's close to even in comparing Tank and JT in '09. I would've much rather had a BJ, but now we'll either gets Crabs or Manboobs.This seems to keeps coming up in threads and to this comment I would have to add, WHO WOULDN'T ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COB Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 What's the over/under on how long it will take Agreen to hook up with Tank's girlfriend? I'm saying 5 months.Edit: Please beware Agreen, Tank is, in a word, strapped.I don't know man... I know him and Ced were teammates in Chicago right? I better watch my back... Dude, Central you gotta trust me on this one bro. I'm not bulls**ting. The girl really isn't all that hot. I've been friends with her since she was 14. She's 19 now... Also that story I posted about Ced Benson, Frostee Rucker, and Shayne Graham at a bar in Oxford WAS true. That is where my fling met Cedric.No problem trusting your word. Go get 'em, player, just remember to post about it in here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairOnFire Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 Sorry but I'm tired of the same old same. Thorton didn't do jack squat for the Bengals in the time he was here. I take it you mean he did jack squat duty after leading all NFL DT's in sacks his first season here? Because that's a little bit better than nothing. Especially when you consider most NFL DT's rarely produce more than 3 or 4 sacks in any season. Like Tank Johnson for example. The bottom line is that Tank improves our d-line. Sometimes you have to be willing to take some risks. I don't love it and I don't hate it. I accept the reasons for the move and hope some of Tanks promise is realized. But I can't help forgetting how it took about ten minutes and a Leon Hall arrest to make this signing feel like a double helping of s**t on my plate. But who-dey to that, ehh? We move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
membengal Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 Meh.Maybe it's lightning in a bottle, and they buy into a DT at just the right time when the DT figures it all out. My perception is that DT is a position where players bloom later in their careers than other positions.Maybe it's a bust, and he shoots himself by accident while cleaning his weaponry.Either way, if it has freed up the draft, I am cool with that.I don't see it impacting the team's playoff chances in 2009 in any appreciable manner, one way or the other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walrus Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 I'd rather have Thornton. A class act, team captain, a better pass rusher, and would not only fit into the rotation at DT but can also give you some quality reps at LDE, as was proven last year.Hair, just wanted to respond to your argument favoring JT to Tank. I agree that having a class act and proven leader on the team has value in and of itself, but do you really think JT brings much to the lineup as a DT? You admitted he plays better as a LDE. RIGHT NOW, I think Tank has more to offer as a rotational DT -- someone who will push for a starting job and thereby (maybe most importantly) keep Sims and Shirley both motivated to step up their games.One question regarding Tank's contract: didn't I read somewhere that the one-year contracts that teams have been signing guys to this offseason are really in effect 2 year deals due to the expiration of the CBA? Or am I way offbase? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 Many people wouldn't have guessed that Bryan Robinson was going to be an impact on a team that ended up going to the Super Bowl in the Cardinals, but there he was. Hopefully Tank can be that type of player for the Bengals. Once again, I'll buy into anything Zimmer is selling at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairOnFire Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 Hair, just wanted to respond to your argument favoring JT to Tank. I agree that having a class act and proven leader on the team has value in and of itself, but do you really think JT brings much to the lineup as a DT? You admitted he plays better as a LDE. Yeah, I'm giving more value to Thornton due to the reps he can give you at LDE, which IMHO is his best position fit. Remember, the Bengals always carry a player to play the elephant role but they consistently attempt to fill it with trash like Fanene. So I guess I'm guilty of liking one bag of trash more than the other. But Thornton proved he could set the edge and hold the POA against the run. Best, even though he rarely sniffs the QB when he does arrive it's like a brickhouse falling down. RIGHT NOW, I think Tank has more to offer as a rotational DT -- someone who will push for a starting job and thereby (maybe most importantly) keep Sims and Shirley both motivated to step up their games. Absolutely. My principle complaint with Tank rests with my belief he simply isn't good enough to risk the distraction his signing brings to this team. Because in the grand scheme nothing has changed on that front. Fair or not this team has become the poster child for NFL douchebaggery.....and we just double dipped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC_Bengals_Fan Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 Yeah, I'm giving more value to Thornton due to the reps he can give you at LDE, which IMHO is his best position fit. Remember, the Bengals always carry a player to play the elephant role but they consistently attempt to fill it with trash like Fanene. So I guess I'm guilty of liking one bag of trash more than the other. But Thornton proved he could set the edge and hold the POA against the run. Best, even though he rarely sniffs the QB when he does arrive it's like a brickhouse falling down.If true, it's a classic case of roster mismanagement. What makes more sense - letting JT get reps at LDE and sign a capable DT for not all that much money, or shift him to DT where he's awful and have another (more expensive) hole to fill at DE?It'd be funny if it weren't sad - weren't the Bengals basically starting 4 DEs on the line a couple of years ago with the failed Geathers-as-DT experiment and JT?I just don't want to see JT get blown out of the hole at DT anymore. Nice guy, just too small at DT. Possibly could have played DT next to somebody huge who could occupy blocks and warp space-time, but we've never had that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wraith Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 Peko, Sims, Tank, and Shirley make an incredible rotation at DT and they are all young! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAPPYJAQ Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 By all accounts, Tank will give them something we haven't had at the DT position since Dan Wilkinson in a player that can get pressure on the passer. I see this move as a win-win for the Bengals, considering they get a free look at a player who may end up starting this year for the league minimum. If it doesn't work out, the Bengals can easily release him without any negative long-term effects on the payroll. Good move for the team, IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derekshank Posted April 10, 2009 Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 I'm giving more value to Thornton due to the reps he can give you at LDE, which IMHO is his best position fit. Remember, the Bengals always carry a player to play the elephant role but they consistently attempt to fill it with trash like Fanene. So I guess I'm guilty of liking one bag of trash more than the other. But Thornton proved he could set the edge and hold the POA against the run. Best, even though he rarely sniffs the QB when he does arrive it's like a brickhouse falling down.Yep. And it seems Thornton feels the same way about his own skill set... because if I recall he claimed he would prefer to play as a DE in the 3-4.I'm not sure if the Bengals have ruled out signing him either. If they decide to draft Raji, I'm sure he won't be signed. But the Tank signing could easily replace Orien Harris on the roster. There is still room for Thornton, but I imagine the Bengals will wait to see how the draft shakes out before they make any decisions about bringing back Thornton.Frankly, for those hoping the Bengals make a playoff run in '09, they should be wanting the Bengals to pass on Raji and bring back Thornton, because I think that brings the most options to make the D-line competitive right away. A rotation of Peko, Sims and Tank at DT with Thornton as the elephant DE you referred to (which proved to be very effective) could easily give Geathers the chance to be that pass rush specialist that warranted the monster contract he signed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairOnFire Posted April 10, 2009 Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 Yep. And it seems Thornton feels the same way about his own skill set... because if I recall he claimed he would prefer to play as a DE in the 3-4. Thornton may imagine a far larger role than I do, but when you consider this teams most recent injury history I value the way he provides depth at multiple positions. Quality character too.....which is how this all began.There is still room for Thornton.... No, I'm guessing this closes the door and that's fine. The move is an upgrade, no doubt about. But it's Tank Johnson. The very same guy who starred in all of those Tank Johnson will probably sign with the Bengals jokes from a few years ago. Damn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derekshank Posted April 10, 2009 Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 There is still room for Thornton.... No, I'm guessing this closes the door and that's fine. The move is an upgrade, no doubt about. But it's Tank Johnson. The very same guy who starred in all of those Tank Johnson will probably sign with the Bengals jokes from a few years ago. Damn.Don't step on my dreams. I don't see the Bengals getting an every down DE unless Orakpo falls to them. And this scenario allows the Bengals to turn Geathers back into a pass rush specialist on the cheap.Will it happen? Probably not on two fronts. 1) Thornton will likely sign elsewhere; and 2) Even if the Bengals were to sign him, they likely wouldn't use him in this role. But a guy can dream can't he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whur CHad At? Posted April 11, 2009 Report Share Posted April 11, 2009 Can we please have a petition made up to oust Geoff Hobson from his current job.God he is way overplaying this average signing with Tank Johnson. I hate when he does this and writes there whole f**king lifestory in every article. I also this his f**king stupid titles to his articles need to go, NOW. I have had enough of him, and would rather have TJ Jackson writing on the website, which isn't saying much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalszoneBilly Posted April 11, 2009 Report Share Posted April 11, 2009 Can we please have a petition made up to oust Geoff Hobson from his current job.I've been a backer of this idea for years. Ditch Mike Brown's lap dog. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAPPYJAQ Posted April 11, 2009 Report Share Posted April 11, 2009 Can we please have a petition made up to oust Geoff Hobson from his current job.I've been a backer of this idea for years. Ditch Mike Brown's lap dog.Yeah, he's in full HobSpin mode, right now. A few days ago we didn't need another DT because we signed Tank and today we don't need another C because Cook and Santucci are already on the roster.Ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhosTombrady? Posted April 13, 2009 Report Share Posted April 13, 2009 Wow... I did not even realize you guys signed him. Only the Bengals... The Cowboys even let him go, that should tell you something. Another thug bum on the Bengals. Some things never change. I honestly feel kind of bad for you guys, I really do. You have the biggest bunch of morons running that team of yours. Who are you going to draft this year? Raji? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whur CHad At? Posted April 13, 2009 Report Share Posted April 13, 2009 Wow... I did not even realize you guys signed him. Only the Bengals... The Cowboys even let him go, that should tell you something. Another thug bum on the Bengals. Some things never change. I honestly feel kind of bad for you guys, I really do. You have the biggest bunch of morons running that team of yours. Who are you going to draft this year? Raji?He didn't fit the 3-4 nose tackle posistion that is why he was let go. He actually can be quite a dominant DT if he has help.We won't pick Raji, please post draft questions in one of the DRAFT posts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalszoneBilly Posted April 13, 2009 Report Share Posted April 13, 2009 please post draft questions in one of the DRAFT posts.Since when did you become a moderator? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whur CHad At? Posted April 13, 2009 Report Share Posted April 13, 2009 Just trying to help out you fine people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalszoneBilly Posted April 13, 2009 Report Share Posted April 13, 2009 Just trying to help out you fine people.I appreciate that WCA, but I was just pulling your chain bro. Call it a little Easter levity. I hope you had a good one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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