New Coaching

[bd4j6h2h]

The bengals have talent on there team. It's not like it's a bunch of pee wee kids out there running around. There are a couple problems with the bengals though. First, the bengals have no pride, as for as I can tell. They could care less if they win or loss, all they are there for is the money. It's hard to even be a fan for a team that could give 2 s**ts. Second, the coaching staff is one of the worste in the leauge. Bob Bratkowski is one of the worste offensive coordinators I have ever seen. I've never heard of the gameplan, pass on first and ten and run on 3rd and long. Sometimes I believe he is just closing his eyes and picking a random play out of the playbook. Where to begin on Chuck Bresnahan, the bengals have had one of the most embarrassing defensives in the leauge for while now, the only good year they have had recently is 2005. Marvin Lewis, who many called a defensive guru in baltimore, comes to the bengals to try to improve their defense, and basically there whole team in general. Ever since the "defensive guru" showed up, your defense has become worse. The only way the bengals are ever going to get out of this 18 year slump, is whole new coaching staff. Marvin is to oblivious to even relize that it isn't the players fault. If Marvin would go out and get new coordinators then at would be ok, but he won't, because he is to buddy buddy with his coordinators. Mike Brown needs to make a move and get some new coaches before we will ever see the superbowl trophy in Cincinnati.

[BengalszoneBilly]

The bengals have talent on there team. It's not like it's a bunch of pee wee kids out there running around. There are a couple problems with the bengals though. First, the bengals have no pride, as for as I can tell. They could care less if they win or loss, all they are there for is the money. It's hard to even be a fan for a team that could give 2 s**ts. Second, the coaching staff is one of the worste in the leauge. Bob Bratkowski is one of the worste offensive coordinators I have ever seen. I've never heard of the gameplan, pass on first and ten and run on 3rd and long. Sometimes I believe he is just closing his eyes and picking a random play out of the playbook. Where to begin on Chuck Bresnahan, the bengals have had one of the most embarrassing defensives in the leauge for while now, the only good year they have had recently is 2005. Marvin Lewis, who many called a defensive guru in baltimore, comes to the bengals to try to improve their defense, and basically there whole team in general. Ever since the "defensive guru" showed up, your defense has become worse. The only way the bengals are ever going to get out of this 18 year slump, is whole new coaching staff. Marvin is to oblivious to even relize that it isn't the players fault. If Marvin would go out and get new coordinators then at would be ok, but he won't, because he is to buddy buddy with his coordinators. Mike Brown needs to make a move and get some new coaches before we will ever see the superbowl trophy in Cincinnati.

I see you're pissed off Rev. Welcome to Bengalszone. Home off the pissed off!

[Wraith]

Mike Brown needs to make a move, to Phoenix (as in retirement), thus handing off the reigns to someone who will actually put a professional sports organization in place.

[ArmyBengal]

Mike Brown needs to take this whole team and hit the f*cking bricks !!! Sadly though, we would probably never get another team...

WHODEY !!!

[GregCook]

Mike Brown needs to take this whole team and hit the f*cking bricks !!! Sadly though, we would probably never get another team...

WHODEY !!!

Its too soon to condemn Zimmer, with such a bad offense, his defense plays too many snaps plus having to deal with all the turnovers.

Its late in condemning Marvin, Brat, Paul Alexander. These guys have ruined a team with good talent. What kills me is to watch the historically good teams. They play hard and they're physical. Bengals rarely are. All teams have their ups and downs with talent, but at least they don't quit and hit hard.

Anybody want to predict the first win? I'm thinking Browns on 9/28. If not then, they could lose every game this season.

Anybody want to slam Chad and TJ? I will. They are a$$holes and major cause of the offense problems.

[BengalszoneBilly]

Anybody want to slam Chad and TJ? I will. They are a$$holes and major cause of the offense problems.

I'm not. The OL isn't giving them time to run their routes.

[volcom69]

I was watching a little of the browns steelers game and ill tell you what i would love a coach like Mike Tomlin this guy is emotional he gets so excited when things are great and pissed when things are not. Marvin has no emotion he shows nothing what so ever and i think this is where the players get it from.

[bnglsboi8532]

Fu*k Marvin Lewis! Tear this team down! Rebuild! I'll take Lane Kiffin, an up-and-coming young coach like Tomlin! I'll take Schottenheimer too! He can build a team. Marvin has peaked, he's done as good as he can...its time to move on. Honestly, if we are as bad as we all think we are gonna be, lets say 1-8 in the first nine games, will that fag Mike Brown fire Marvin? I know, it's more Mike Brown than Marvin but let's face he's not going n e where, it is his team and until he moves on were never gonna be outta hell but Marvin is not the right coach for the job!

[Spor_tees]

I don't think my position on Marvin should come at no surprise to anyone on this board. I have said for some time how I feel about Marvin, and my belief that he is not a very good coach. The only reason he has stayed on as long as he has, is the fact that the players talent and will not to be embarrassed have overcome Marvin's ineptness as a coach. I think it became very apparent today that the will of the players no longer exist. Carson has been Klinger-ized, whether by a poor coach, lack of motivation, or some more sinister reason. My belief is that when Willie Anderson and Rudi Johnson were let go this preseason, Marvin's idea that it would motivate the players backfired on him and instead only dug a deeper divide between himself and the players.

This team is now ready to move on without Marvin as the head coach...the only problem is, Marvin is still technically the head coach. I truly believe that the players have now put themselves in cruise control and will do anything they can to make Marvin look bad enough to either get him fired or force him to resign. Can anyone else explain how a bunch of professionals can look so unmotivated and unorganized? This situation is actually worse than any during the 90's for one reason, this team DOES have the talent to win games whereas the teams of the 90's didn't. I am actually more embarrassed to be a Bengals fan now than I ever was. At least before when the Bengals lost, they lost because of lack of talent, and now they lose because of lack of desire, organization, and effort. It's a very sad day.

Hopefully Marvin will soon move on, and a coach with some heart and energy will join the organization and revitalize this team of underachievers.

[1984Bengal]

Anybody want to slam Chad and TJ? I will. They are a$$holes and major cause of the offense problems.

I'm not. The OL isn't giving them time to run their routes.

Without an effective o-line.....they can't really do much.

[BengalChamps]

Anybody want to slam Chad and TJ? I will. They are a$$holes and major cause of the offense problems.

I'm not. The OL isn't giving them time to run their routes.

Without an effective o-line.....they can't really do much.

Who would want to block for these two self-serving, me-first, off-season skipping morons? Thanks Mikeyboy, you suck.

[volcom69]

I thought the o-line did a much better job this game, but the wide outs are not getting open and Carson for some reason is way off target, but i dont think you can blame just the o-line this week. At some point and time TJ and Chad better wake up and get off there blocks and Carson better learn to become accurate again cause this is just getting sick now. Least our Defense comes to play most of the game and i really thought they were ok, now wheres the O at.

[Sandwedge]

I thought the o-line did a much better job this game, but the wide outs are not getting open and Carson for some reason is way off target, but i dont think you can blame just the o-line this week. At some point and time TJ and Chad better wake up and get off there blocks and Carson better learn to become accurate again cause this is just getting sick now. Least our Defense comes to play most of the game and i really thought they were ok, now wheres the O at.

I agree, sadly I watched till 2 minutes to go in the 4th.. The o-line I thought showed better yesterday than in week 1.. The D was doing good, not outstanding but looked OK... Brat has to go along with Marvin!!! Here's your typical series:

1st & 10 - pass for 2 yds

2nd & 8 - run , stuffed at line

3rd & 8 - pass out in flat for 3 yds

4th & 5 - punt

Even I could game plan for that... Chad and TJ are not getting open!!! I used to like TJ, not so much anymore.. In his latest to Hobby, he states he and chad are getting open contrary to what the coaches are seeing... I honestly don't want him back next year anymore.. I'm grossed out by everyone that wears the Bengals uniform and I'll probably work more on the golf game on Sundays.. I'm tired of wasting my time with these ingrates..

[Wraith]

We are some 13 million under the cap at this point. Letting go Deltha, Rudi and Willie is fine as long as we are going to spend that money on improving this team, if we don't I say we bring back the Mike Brown Boycott.

[Horsemen]

Yep, we need new coaches. Nothing more I can add to that.

[markymark69]

For all who want Marvin gone. Let me present a word of caution. Are you prepared for Paul Alexander, Jim Anderson or one of the other Bengal assistants or someone with Bengal ties, Bengal loyalties and would do it for cheap? Because that's where we're headed if Marvin gets the ax.

And history says that the in-season replacement gets the permanent gig. Be careful what you wish for. Mike Brown will not pay Lewis and another high profile coach at the same time.

[TJJackson]

Mike Brown needs to make a move, to Phoenix (as in retirement)

Maybe Billy can put him up in the guest bedroom, and find him somewhere to park his '83 Tempo

[BengalszoneBilly]

Mike Brown needs to make a move, to Phoenix (as in retirement)

Maybe Billy can put him up in the guest bedroom, and find him somewhere to park his '83 Tempo

Why would I want my guest room all stunk up? Just look what he's done to PBS!?!

[jjakq27]

Based on previous history I doubt that Marvin gets the boot this year. Look how long Shula lasted with an absolutely horrible record. Marvin can "brag" that coming into the season he is only one of a couple that have a winning record as Bengals head coach. Even the great PB couldn't say that.

This season is starting to remind me of the 1991 season, BTW. Sam Wyche quit/got fired for trying to change things. Wonder if Marvin tries the same strategy?

[Jet23]

Based on previous history I doubt that Marvin gets the boot this year. Look how long Shula lasted with an absolutely horrible record. Marvin can "brag" that coming into the season he is only one of a couple that have a winning record as Bengals head coach. Even the great PB couldn't say that.

This season is starting to remind me of the 1991 season, BTW. Sam Wyche quit/got fired for trying to change things. Wonder if Marvin tries the same strategy?

The only reason Coughlin was not hired is because he identified what was lacking and told Brown what it would take. Screw him for suggesting that a Scouting Dept consisting of Lippy alone was not sufficient to win in the NFL. Since when?

Mike Brown has been, is and always will be the reason the Bengals SUCK! I'm guessing the Season Ticket Waiting List is getting smaller every Sunday night. That stadium can not be empty enough for my taste. Good thing his bestest employee worked out the guarantee attendance clause, while still representing the fine taxpayers of Hamilton County. Yet the sheep keep a comin'.

[HAPPYJAQ]

He won't get fired simply because the Bengals will never be able to bring in another coach of like quality. The only coaches that have wanted to come here are the " young, up and coming" coaches and there's really not much out there right now other than Singletary. The Holmgrens' Reids, Cowhers, Parcells and other top level coaches have never considered (or even been widely rumored) to come here. I think that Lewis needs to blow it up (including his coaching staff) and start over.

[Ickey44]

This team could probably use Singletary's no-nonsense approach. Someone who won't put up with the bulls**t and divas on this team.

[cincy9275]

i thought that marvin should have fired the whole lot of them in the 06 -07 season. when we lost the last 3 straight to miss out on the playoffs. it was painfully obvious the bresh, brat and simmons along with the rest where not the right coaches to get this team over the hump. i said then that if marv stays with these coaches, we would be in serious trouble. now look at us. if the player are making mistakes on the field every single game, then the coaches are not doing their jobs! it is their jobs to make sure these player know what to do and when to do it.

[gregstephens]

He won't get fired simply because the Bengals will never be able to bring in another coach of like quality. The only coaches that have wanted to come here are the " young, up and coming" coaches and there's really not much out there right now other than Singletary. The Holmgrens' Reids, Cowhers, Parcells and other top level coaches have never considered (or even been widely rumored) to come here. I think that Lewis needs to blow it up (including his coaching staff) and start over.

I will apologize upfront to anyone this may offend, but I'm going to say it. He won't get fired simply because he (ML) is black. I hate to say that, but given the social climate in Cincy when he was hired and the still-touchy nature of those issues, I believe that to be true.

On the one hand, I hope SoP does fire ML because, first, he's no longer effective in the position. Second, because it would prove me wrong as to some of the underlying motives I think prompted ML's hiring and retention.

On the other hand, I don't want to see ML fired simply because I believe SoP has set ML up to fail. Not intentionally, but SoP sets all his coaches up to fail. I think ML has given up, but I think it's because he sees the futility of this organization.

[Ickey44]

He won't get fired simply because the Bengals will never be able to bring in another coach of like quality. The only coaches that have wanted to come here are the " young, up and coming" coaches and there's really not much out there right now other than Singletary. The Holmgrens' Reids, Cowhers, Parcells and other top level coaches have never considered (or even been widely rumored) to come here. I think that Lewis needs to blow it up (including his coaching staff) and start over.

I will apologize upfront to anyone this may offend, but I'm going to say it. He won't get fired simply because he (ML) is black. I hate to say that, but given the social climate in Cincy when he was hired and the still-touchy nature of those issues, I believe that to be true.

On the one hand, I hope SoP does fire ML because, first, he's no longer effective in the position. Second, because it would prove me wrong as to some of the underlying motives I think prompted ML's hiring and retention.

On the other hand, I don't want to see ML fired simply because I believe SoP has set ML up to fail. Not intentionally, but SoP sets all his coaches up to fail. I think ML has given up, but I think it's because he sees the futility of this organization.

You're right on both accounts there, I think. As to the race issue, I seriously doubt the racial climate of Cincinnati will come into Brown's decision (or lack thereof) to either retain or let go of Marvin. Mikey seems to be after profit and nothing else.

What amazes me, is that Mikey could realize an even bigger revenue if he fielded a winning team. More merchandise sold, higher TV contracts, he could charge more for tickets and parking, and so on. He either doesn't get it or doesn't care, and it really pisses me off because we fans deserve more than futility for our loyalty to this franchise.