ArmyBengal Posted April 27, 2008 Report Share Posted April 27, 2008 With their pick in the 4th round, the Bengals select: Anothony Collins, OT, KansasWHODEY !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted April 27, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2008 Not a real sexy pick there...WHODEY !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted April 27, 2008 Report Share Posted April 27, 2008 Another great value pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalszoneBilly Posted April 27, 2008 Report Share Posted April 27, 2008 Linemen, linemen, and more linemen...here they come! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingwilly Posted April 27, 2008 Report Share Posted April 27, 2008 ...this is another smart pick....who is running their war-room? certainly not the Brown's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pidge Posted April 27, 2008 Report Share Posted April 27, 2008 Linemen, linemen, and more linemen...here they come! I know you feel the same and must be hoping for a couple more linemen like me. Loving the decent quality still available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted April 27, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2008 We still need interior o-line help...WHODEY !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairOnFire Posted April 27, 2008 Report Share Posted April 27, 2008 Put this down as another one you guys like better than I do. I've always felt he was vastly overrated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kentjett Posted April 27, 2008 Report Share Posted April 27, 2008 This guy is raw but huge and strong. He will be a massive guard and provide solid depth. I found this on him and I thought it was impressive, 172 knockdowns. He only played 1 year of highschool ball before enrolling w/ Kansas.Collins started 23 of his final 24 games for the Jayhawks, registering 172 knockdowns and 22 touchdown-resulting blocks, as he allowed 13 sacks for losses totaling 83 yards and three quarterback pressures...Became the 15th player in school history to earn All-American first-team honors in 2007, joining Ray Evans (1947), Otto Schnellbacher (1947), George Mrkonic (1951), Gil Reich (1952), Oliver Spencer (1952), John Hadl (1960-61), Gale Sayers (1963-64), Bobby Douglass (1968), John Zook (1968), David Jaynes (1973), Bruce Kallmeyer (1983) and Aqib Talib (2007). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted April 27, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2008 If the guy is versatile enough to play guard, I like this pick MUCH more...WHODEY !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairOnFire Posted April 27, 2008 Report Share Posted April 27, 2008 .....he allowed 13 sacks for losses totaling 83 yards and three quarterback pressures... And there it is. That's a full buttload of sacks allowed. Watch him for ten minutes and you'll quickly see the unawareness matches the upside. That said, the idea of kicking him inside is interesting as it protects him and reduces the liabilty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted April 27, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2008 My point EXACTLY Hair !!!WHODEY !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pidge Posted April 27, 2008 Report Share Posted April 27, 2008 .....he allowed 13 sacks for losses totaling 83 yards and three quarterback pressures... And there it is. That's a full buttload of sacks allowed. Watch him for ten minutes and you'll quickly see the unawareness matches the upside. That said, the idea of kicking him inside is interesting as it protects him and reduces the liabilty.I would assume, wearing my hat of complete and utter ignorance in these matters, that he was picked to play on the inside. Most tackles picked this late are aren't they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingwilly Posted April 27, 2008 Report Share Posted April 27, 2008 .....he allowed 13 sacks for losses totaling 83 yards and three quarterback pressures... And there it is. That's a full buttload of sacks allowed. Watch him for ten minutes and you'll quickly see the unawareness matches the upside. That said, the idea of kicking him inside is interesting as it protects him and reduces the liabilty.Ok, but who was their QB? Was he mobile? Was he realted to David Klingler? WHo was he throwing to? Seems this is also important to note: "Collins was selected as an Associated Press first-team All-American and Outland Trophy finalist in his final season. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted April 27, 2008 Report Share Posted April 27, 2008 If the guy didn't give up any sacks at all I'm sure he'd be going higher then 4th.... who knows maybe its bobbie williams future replacement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurgan74 Posted April 27, 2008 Report Share Posted April 27, 2008 The sacks are a bit of concern, but he has playedagainst some top notch DL in the Big 12 over the past couple of years such as Adam Carriker, Frank Okam, and Red Bryant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jditty47 Posted April 27, 2008 Report Share Posted April 27, 2008 4th rounders are projects. I am guessing he is a RT/G project, which I am happy about. He had to have done something right last season for Kansas to play the way they did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShulaSteakhouse Posted April 27, 2008 Report Share Posted April 27, 2008 This team continues to refuse to draft offensive or defensive lineman on day one, always starry eyed over the WR's and RB's. (I still consider round 3 day one)Business as usual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrishcovga Posted April 27, 2008 Report Share Posted April 27, 2008 I love the Anthony Collins pick. Talk about value this guy was graded as a 2nd round offensive tackle. The only knock on him was his slow 40 time and the fact that he hasn't played alot of football.Here are the facts. He's started at both right and left tackle. He plays with a mean streak. Has natural balance and strength, so you know he's not the product of being a workout warrior. Just needs to work on his quickness and that could come with refining his technique to limit his steps. - I'll be honest, I wasn't happy with the Jerome Simpson pick, but grading out the rest of the draft so far, You gotta give'm an A- so far. - Still need to add a corner, Defensive tackle or End tweener. Center ?? Missed out on runningback , so looks like Shaun Alexander is a Bengal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJJackson Posted April 27, 2008 Report Share Posted April 27, 2008 You're right, Chis - everything looks OK except that molasses slow 40 time....which leads to the second level of the problem...You say he played LT, and I can accept that, and I certainly love versatility - but does he have enough foot speed to play LT in the NFL?We've got a lot of candidates on the roster to play RT, but who is our LT of the future, particularly with Levi allegedly wanting out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC_Bengals_Fan Posted April 27, 2008 Report Share Posted April 27, 2008 You're right, Chis - everything looks OK except that molasses slow 40 time....which leads to the second level of the problem...You say he played LT, and I can accept that, and I certainly love versatility - but does he have enough foot speed to play LT in the NFL?We've got a lot of candidates on the roster to play RT, but who is our LT of the future, particularly with Levi allegedly wanting out?Stacy Andrews! He's our franchise player, right?I think I need a drink. Thanks, Levi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJJackson Posted April 27, 2008 Report Share Posted April 27, 2008 Stacey is being groomed - rightly or wrongly - to replace Willie.Not Levi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dadraftnick Posted April 27, 2008 Report Share Posted April 27, 2008 Gave up way too many sacksThe Bengals drafted him on size and weightAs I have said many times it not just who you get its who you could have had instead of who you pick Maybe they can teach him up pretty much a wasted pick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGrizzlyBaer Posted April 27, 2008 Report Share Posted April 27, 2008 Gave up way too many sacksthis is from c trent on lot d Collins allowed six sacks last season and 13 in 24 games at Kansas. Kansas, in fairness, throws the ball a lot. Collins' six sacks came on 476 pass plays in 2007. i mean come on thats a ton of pass plays Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pidge Posted April 27, 2008 Report Share Posted April 27, 2008 Gave up way too many sacksthis is from c trent on lot d Collins allowed six sacks last season and 13 in 24 games at Kansas. Kansas, in fairness, throws the ball a lot. Collins' six sacks came on 476 pass plays in 2007. i mean come on thats a ton of pass playsThat's about 35 pass attempts per sack. Is that a decent ratio? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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