Clackwoods Posted June 18, 2007 Report Share Posted June 18, 2007 I read an article about the bengals being interested in Darius. He has been a beast for a long time and would give us a great replacement for Kase. What do you think? Can we even afford him, all I hear these days is how we are strapped for cash. Give me your thoughts.http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/6935126WHODEYF**k the RAVENS!!!F**k the BROWNS!!!And especially....F**K THE STEELERS!!!Bengals are the next SUPERBOWL CHAMPIONS................................ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ox Posted June 19, 2007 Report Share Posted June 19, 2007 To be honest, I highly doubt we can afford DD. Even so, with his injuries and age, he may be a backup at this point in his career from now on, and we've got a lot of depth back there as it is. But with this team, who knows... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted June 19, 2007 Report Share Posted June 19, 2007 I don't see it. Not one offseason after signing Dexter Jackson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The PatternMaster Posted June 19, 2007 Report Share Posted June 19, 2007 Would you replace Jackson with Darius, remember Coyle used to coach DD at Sryacuse way back in day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spor_tees Posted June 19, 2007 Report Share Posted June 19, 2007 The Bengals are too high on Ethan Kilmer to bring in Darius. They are going to use Dexter Jackson another year until they feel Kilmer is good enough to start. If Kilmer doesn't progress enough this year to the point he can become a starter, they will draft another Safety in next years draft.The logical place for Darius to go would be the Colts. They lost 2 DB including Doss this past year. They also lost Cato June and could use another veteran presence on the defense, plus a solid run defender. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShulaSteakhouse Posted June 19, 2007 Report Share Posted June 19, 2007 Kilmer over Darius? Huh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DesperateDerelict Posted June 19, 2007 Report Share Posted June 19, 2007 The logical place for Darius to go would be the Colts. They lost 2 DB including Doss this past year. They also lost Cato June and could use another veteran presence on the defense, plus a solid run defender.I'm pretty sure Indy is against the cap - they've resigned their offensive skill players to escalating deals. They also drafted Hughes, Coe, & Condren. My best guess - Buffalo, Carolina and Oakland already have expressed an interest, which shouldn't be overly surprising. No team has a greater need for a veteran safety of Darius' ilk than the Panthers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobcat Bengal Posted June 19, 2007 Report Share Posted June 19, 2007 I'd rather go with the Safties we have now, honestly.Kilmer deserves more PT, Madieu hopefully will return to previous form, D-Jax will stop talking so much and actually be healthy enough to play in more than a couple of games, and Marvin White looks promising as well.Oh yeah, Chinny might sneak out onto the field also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJBestInAFC Posted June 19, 2007 Report Share Posted June 19, 2007 I don't think picking up Darius is a bad move. If you look at DJax over the last two seasons he hasn't played a full season in any one of them. Now I know Darius has the same problem over the last two seasons, but he would be good insurance for Djax if he does get injured again this season ( which will probably happen). I think if the Bengals can sign Darius to reasonable contract it will only make the D better. Remember when Djax was with Tampa Bay the last couple of seasons he wasn't even starting. Look at it this way if DJax gets injured again the Bengals will have to play either Kilmer, White, or Ndukwe at SS. Thinking about that is very scary, and lets not forget about M. Williams who could have another poor season at FS. Darius just gives the Bengals more depth and a better hitter at SS. Let White back up M. Williams at FS have both DJax and Darius split time at SS and then use Kilmer as S/cb just like KK was used early on in his career as a Bengal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clackwoods Posted June 19, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2007 I agree with you, I think he would give us some depth. This guy was a probowl beast for a long time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derekshank Posted June 19, 2007 Report Share Posted June 19, 2007 The secondary is the strong part of this defense. I'd be more excited about it if we were talking about a DT or SSLB. I am surprisingly comfortable with the safeties that are currently on the roster... for the first time since I can remember. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalByTheBay Posted June 19, 2007 Report Share Posted June 19, 2007 This is yet another FA where all I can say is that the Bengals would be in the hunt if he's looking at small, or reasonable, money. Since I doubt he is, and I expect he can get a pretty good contract elsewhere, I doubt anything will come of this. That said, I think Darius would be an upgrade over DJax right now. I can't disagree that the second is looking better with the drafting of White and I just can't agree with those who keep saying Madieu had a "bad" year last year. No, he didn't have another 2005 season, but he had a solid year with a couple of high-visibility missed tackles. Madieu is solid -- I don't have any concern about his spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShulaSteakhouse Posted June 19, 2007 Report Share Posted June 19, 2007 Call me crazy but I would much prefer to watch/have Darius over any safety on this roster.Dexter Jackson is a liability and a place holder - and should be in a backup role/on ST's where he belongs, for one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted June 19, 2007 Report Share Posted June 19, 2007 All things would point to NO in my opinion... We drafted 2 safties and have other to play the part. With the money he will want, I just dont see it happening. Now, do I want it to happen ?? That is also a NO. I just dont see safety as the big concern here. Let's talk about front 4 and then we can talk about how much money should we spend...WHODEY !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShulaSteakhouse Posted June 19, 2007 Report Share Posted June 19, 2007 Guys Darius was making somewhere around $3.5 mil when he left Jax (hardly a mint) - due to his injuries and thus lack of production over the last two years - his asking price could be dramatically lower or based on incentives.I guess I'm wondering how Jax cut him when he wasn't cleared to practice by doctors yet.Any ways, I don't expect most here to demand or expect anything from the Bengals' other than the status quo - as too many have been brain-washed by the cheapo Brown familiy over the years, and think people like Ethan Kilmer will get it done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalByTheBay Posted June 19, 2007 Report Share Posted June 19, 2007 Guys Darius was making somewhere around $3.5 mil when he left Jax (hardly a mint) - due to his injuries and thus lack of production over the last two years - his asking price could be dramatically lower or based on incentives.I guess I'm wondering how Jax cut him when he wasn't cleared to practice by doctors yet.Any ways, I don't expect most here to demand or expect anything from the Bengals' other than the status quo - as too many have been brain-washed by the cheapo Brown familiy over the years, and think people like Ethan Kilmer will get it done.I refuse to get dragged into the obligatory "cheapo Brown family" axe grinding discussion, but to clarify -- if Darius could end up here for what basically amounts to a bargain -- and he's healthy which is a big "if" at this point -- then I wouldn't have a problem with him and DJax duking it out in camp with the best player starting. In fact, I would go so far as to say Darius probably has a pretty good leg up if that were the case. Whatever the reason would be, however, if the Bengals saw this getting into some kind of bidding war then it won't happen. You agree with that I presume? So, if we both agree that Darius is worth a look, and we both agree that the Bengals (rigthly or wrongly) won't engage in an extended bidding war if too many other teams are willing to bid up his contract, then it looks like this is one thing we agree on. Stop the presses! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted June 19, 2007 Report Share Posted June 19, 2007 The Bengals are too high on Ethan Kilmer to bring in Darius. They are going to use Dexter Jackson another year until they feel Kilmer is good enough to start. If Kilmer doesn't progress enough this year to the point he can become a starter, they will draft another Safety in next years draft.The logical place for Darius to go would be the Colts. They lost 2 DB including Doss this past year. They also lost Cato June and could use another veteran presence on the defense, plus a solid run defender.what about um white? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The PatternMaster Posted June 19, 2007 Report Share Posted June 19, 2007 Darius will get a Hartwell type of deal, but my question is can he pass a physical? He got big money a few years ago and has spent the last two season banged up. Before any team gives him another big money deal he will have to play on a 1 year deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalszoneBilly Posted June 19, 2007 Report Share Posted June 19, 2007 Darius will get a Hartwell type of deal, but my question is can he pass a physical? He got big money a few years ago and has spent the last two season banged up. Before any team gives him another big money deal he will have to play on a 1 year deal.I think he's worth at least that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairOnFire Posted June 20, 2007 Report Share Posted June 20, 2007 Guys Darius was making somewhere around $3.5 mil when he left Jax (hardly a mint) - due to his injuries and thus lack of production over the last two years - his asking price could be dramatically lower or based on incentives.I guess I'm wondering how Jax cut him when he wasn't cleared to practice by doctors yet. Why discuss how little Darius would cost? Quite frankly, you already had me at injuries and lack of production. BTW, the NFL Network claimed that Jacksonville cut Darius the moment it was clear that Reggie Nelson was far more advanced in regards to reading offenses than they first believed. In addition, they mentioned another safety already on the roster who was once an UDFA (I'm drawing a blank on the name) whose speed, combined with questions about how much gas was left in Donovin's tank, made DD expendable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengalsfansince68 Posted June 20, 2007 Report Share Posted June 20, 2007 I think he's worth at least that!Enough already!!Are any of you guys aware of the downhill slide? All players go down the slide and most players begin to experience it at about the age of 30. The downhill slide frequently begins with a couple of injury filled years. Darius will be 32 in training camp and has already begun his slide with injury filled '05 and '06. In my opinion he will be retired by the end of '08. Granted you might get a half ass decent year or you might not. The way you build a team is to establish continuity by putting young players in place and allow them to grow, Jon Jo, Leon, White, Ethan Kilmer, possibly Chinny and 1 or 2 guys from next years draft. Then you have a nucleus of young guys for the next several years. Darius does not fit the mold of the players we need for our future as a playoff contender for the rest of Carson's career.Football is a young man's game.If you don't believe in the downhill slide, see Sam Adams and adjust your minds accordingly! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J24 Posted June 20, 2007 Report Share Posted June 20, 2007 We have a Decent Saftey Duo Right Now with Madieu and Jackson plus we drafted Marvin White who has a load of talent and Kilmer is still Devolping . Would I mind him being picked up no but do we need him no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
membengal Posted June 21, 2007 Report Share Posted June 21, 2007 OLD?WASHED UP?FOR f**kSSAKE!!!!! WHAT ARE WE WAITING FOR???????????SIGN HIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clackwoods Posted June 21, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2007 Darius is a veteran leader they we could use, he is a beast in run support and he could at the very least help mentor Williams, JJ, and Hall a little bit. He would be a good backup and I agree we do have the youngsters but do we really want to rely on rookies to back up our safeties? If he isn't more than 1.3 Million then we should sign him, let him and the Superbowl MVP duke it out and whoever comes out on top starts and the other is the backup. Dawkins and Lynch are older than Darius, and I seem to remember Woodson playing until he was almost 40. Safeties can play a lot longer so he is in no way washed up or to old. Now, injury prone? That is another question. With our need for some more good media character coverage and his relative low costs I believe it would be stupid of us not to sign him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The PatternMaster Posted June 21, 2007 Report Share Posted June 21, 2007 Darius is a veteran leader they we could use, he is a beast in run support and he could at the very least help mentor Williams, JJ, and Hall a little bit. He would be a good backup and I agree we do have the youngsters but do we really want to rely on rookies to back up our safeties? If he isn't more than 1.3 Million then we should sign him, let him and the Superbowl MVP duke it out and whoever comes out on top starts and the other is the backup. Dawkins and Lynch are older than Darius, and I seem to remember Woodson playing until he was almost 40. Safeties can play a lot longer so he is in no way washed up or to old. Now, injury prone? That is another question. With our need for some more good media character coverage and his relative low costs I believe it would be stupid of us not to sign him.I would say leadership is thing he could bring to the table, not that loud mouth leadership that D Jax likes to exhibit either. He would be like another coach on the field, but if they sign him they could cut Jackson, you can't have two guys playing the same role. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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