Stereotypical PFT - T.J. wants out of Cincy

[HoosierCat]

Still, his production can't be ignored.

Oh, I agree. Given his importance to the offense, if I were the Bengals, it would take a top 40 pick (i.e. high second minimum) for me to even think about handing over Housh. I just don't see any team doing that.

If someone were to offer a first for Housh...given the state of the D and the backup at WR, that would be tough to turn down.

I want to know how a site as worthless as PFT became big enough for this story to actually reach the ears of T.J. himself.

Hobson, of course. But like it or not Florio has established himself as an NFL insider. Run him down all you want but this is the kind of thing that shows he gets taken seriously, versus the two billion other NFL-wannabe sites out there.

[ShulaSteakhouse]

TJ never denied anything in his response.

Nowhere does it say, "I want to stay here no matter what."

And really, what good is it for an agent to "be out there working for you," when your contract isn't up for another 2 seasons? What could he possibly do? Everyone knows who he is.

Sounds fishy to me.

[Stripes]

PFT never even clarified their source for this. The cited Adam Schefter for the notion that T.J. was after more money, but carried even further on their own. I think PFT's only real source here is PFT.

[Spor_tees]

is the source of carp considered the colon...or does it start all the way at the beginning with as soon as you put something in your mouth?

[ShulaSteakhouse]

7million a year to get your QB's leg injured? that teams getting a deal!

Yeah Willie and Levi and Braham never gave up a sack.

He'll do well with some good players around him. He got absolutely no help last year with a rookie and a 2nd year player next to him most of the time. He was a lot more effective in '05 when Levi was mostly healthy and Braham making it through the year.

I certainly hope an 0-lineman is a day one area that is addressed again.

I would draft an 0-lineman almost every year on the 1st day of the draft in fact.

[membengal]

I don't undertand what PFT is standing behind. TJ flat told them they're wrong. How can their response be "you don't mean what you say"?

Oh right. Florio is a muck-raking prick of the first order who makes s**t up in a way that would make even Fox News blush.

[Stripes]

I would draft an 0-lineman almost every year on the 1st day of the draft in fact.

I agree. I don't think we should this year without the third round pick, but I like Andy Reid's style of drafting for depth on both lines early in each draft.

[ShulaSteakhouse]

PFT never even clarified their source for this. The cited Adam Schefter for the notion that T.J. was after more money, but carried even further on their own. I think PFT's only real source here is PFT.

I nor anyone else, I don't think, is saying PFT is right or accurate.

I think the point here is, that PFT "could be right" - we just don't know.

Otherwise, we're all just assuming ultimately, and don't really know.

My guess is that he's just going to seek a new deal soon, possibly an extension, and not much more until 2008, leading up to the end of his contract, as far as other teams go.

It would be very un-TJ-like to demand a trade, hold out, or do anything that disruptive.

I know he was not happy at all about losing Hue Jackson though (can't blame the Bengals there - but the fact is, he's gone). So who knows, when you throw-in all of the other clubhouse problems they've had.

I don't undertand what PFT is standing behind. TJ flat told them they're wrong.

TJ's response was not definitive and nowhere did he say that he's "staying" or that he "wasn't" looking for a new deal with the Bengals, or anyone else.

It just wasn't very convincing or specific. He basically said PFT are making assumptions.

[Stripes]

I nor anyone else, I don't think, is saying PFT is right or accurate.

Yeah I'm not accusing anyone of anything... just questioning PFT itself.

It just wasn't very convincing or specific. He basically said PFT are making assumptions.

The same can be said about the original PFT statement though. It just seems like they pulled this one out of nowhere.

[ShulaSteakhouse]

I would draft an 0-lineman almost every year on the 1st day of the draft in fact.

I don't think we should this year without the third round pick

Ugh, don't remind me.

[NJ29]

We cannot afford to let TJ leave. He is the heart and soul of the team. He's what the rest of the team isn't... a guy with more guts and fire than anyone else on the team, who makes big plays in the clutch, and is, in my opinion, the biggest competitor on the team. He's the type of guy that refuses to lose at anything. He'll get hit, and he pops right back up, the opposing team makes a play, and he'll make another one right back. We need more guys like TJ on the team, not less.

I would rather have TJ on the team than any other player. Letting him leave, at any cost, would be a huge mistake.

[CarsonCity]

I would rather have TJ on the team than any other player.

You're telling me you'd rather have TJ on the team than Carson?

[NJ29]

I would rather have TJ on the team than any other player.

You're telling me you'd rather have TJ on the team than Carson?

Not necissarily. Carson is the only other guy that I wouldn't disagree with, because he also is a great leader and makes the rest of the team accept responsibilty for s**t, but it's got nothing to do with talent and production, although they've brought a lot of it. It's about the tone and attitude that they set for the rest of the team.

[HairOnFire]

But like it or not Florio has established himself as an NFL insider. Run him down all you want but this is the kind of thing that shows he gets taken seriously, versus the two billion other NFL-wannabe sites out there.

You continue to take Florio seriously. Most others realize that he's increasing become a source for bogus stories that have to be addressed by teams soley due to the amount of fan attention they get.

BTW, Florio has a disturbing habit of totally dismissing the statements of the players who have to respond to his tabloid rantings.

[Spor_tees]

But like it or not Florio has established himself as an NFL insider. Run him down all you want but this is the kind of thing that shows he gets taken seriously, versus the two billion other NFL-wannabe sites out there.

You continue to take Florio seriously. Most others realize that he's increasing become a source for bogus stories that have to be addressed by teams soley due to the amount of fan attention they get.

BTW, Florio has a disturbing habit of totally dismissing the statements of the players who have to respond to his tabloid rantings.

Of coarse players are going to deny things until they are set up to do what they plan to do.

For example, if a wife cheats on her husband, and someone comes to the husband and tells him what his wife has done, then he confronts his wife, what does a woman do most of the time? Deny, deny, deny...

Just because someone denies something doesn't mean it isn't true.

[HairOnFire]

But like it or not Florio has established himself as an NFL insider. Run him down all you want but this is the kind of thing that shows he gets taken seriously, versus the two billion other NFL-wannabe sites out there.

You continue to take Florio seriously. Most others realize that he's increasing become a source for bogus stories that have to be addressed by teams soley due to the amount of fan attention they get.

BTW, Florio has a disturbing habit of totally dismissing the statements of the players who have to respond to his tabloid rantings.

Of coarse players are going to deny things until they are set up to do what they plan to do.

For example, if a wife cheats on her husband, and someone comes to the husband and tells him what his wife has done, then he confronts his wife, what does a woman do most of the time? Deny, deny, deny...

Just because someone denies something doesn't mean it isn't true.

I've got another example for you.

A website increasingly known for tabloid style yellow journalism offers an opinion that Carson Palmer has a potentially serious shoulder injury. Palmer and the Bengals both deny the story, prompting the website to imply that both are lying. The website then claims that it will continue standing behind the rumor....though rather predictably it never mentions it again. And why should it? The wild and unfounded rumor had already gotten the website the attention it needed, and by claiming that Palmer was hiding something the website gained enough time to distance itself from the denials of those directly involved. In short, the website guarantees that it has the last word, and as a result the once hot rumor is allowed to fade away quickly before it's credibility is put to the test. In a few weeks most fans can't remember the source.

Meanwhile, the next time anyone gets a look at Palmer is at the Pro Bowl where he throws long bomb after long bomb, guides three scoring drives, and wins MVP honors.

[ShulaSteakhouse]

Just remember, anything written about the Bengals, Mike Brown or Marvin Lewis, is always wrong, if it's negative or critical. <sic>

[HairOnFire]

Just remember, anything written about the Bengals, Mike Brown or Marvin Lewis, is always wrong, if it's negative or critical. <sic>

I'd say you're the only thing around here that is always wrong.

As for PFT, they've floated plenty of unfounded rumors involving every team in the NFL and there's hardly a coaching staff that hasn't had to step before the cameras to respond to their nonsense.