BZBot Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 I'm just not a Peyton believer. Source: http://www.bengalszone.com/article.php?sid=518 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengalboomer7 Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 I'll first admit I didn't have the time to read the article, just the topic title, and I disagree. This Super Bowl will be handed to peyton on a silver platter just like they did the Steelers last year. The Colts will get all the breaks, all the calls, and will win a boring, poorly played Super Bowl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirkendall Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 Well, I'm going to disagree simply because it wasn't Manning that got them through the playoffs. It was their defense. This Colts team is different on that aspect alone. EVEN if Manning chokes, the Colts are playing an inferior Bears offense. Colts will win this and Manning doesn't even have to throw a Touchdown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 Probbley will throw atleast 1 pick for 6...But I just can't see colts stopping the bears and I can see the bears stopping the colts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 Any other year I'd be inclined to agree, but not this time. Bears are a fraud. Beneficiaries of a powder puff schedule who did lose to GB and Miami, and very nearly dropped games to the horrible Cards and Bucs. They barely scraped by a mediocre Seattle squad a couple weeks ago, and got a double dose of help (the weather, and miscues by the opponent) to upset the 'Aints.This game is going to look like the the '05 Bengals-Bears laugher. Colts 41-13. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walzav29 Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 The Colts lost to Houston and Tennessee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 The Colts diden't have a easy scheaduled? hell they coulden't even beat crappy teams in their division..atleast we put the browns in their place lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stilldiesel Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 The Steelers and Colts will win back-to-back SB's. I believe Dungy and Manning are at least as deserving as Cowher and Bettis were. The only incorrect call from last year's SB was the low block call on Hassleback. The Colts are on a roll and will defeat the Bears. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 The Colts lost to Houston and Tennessee.Sh*t happens in divisional games. Don't like the GB example, throw it out. But I now live in the Chicago metro area, so I had the opportunity (such as it was) to watch da Bears every week. They are nowhere near as good as their record suggests. And on the other side I've been very impressed by the way the Colts D has stepped up since they got embarassed by the Jags.To answer kaz's question, the Colts had a mediocre sked -- .500 strength of schedule overall, .505 strength of victory. The Bears? .430 overall, .404 strength of victory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 Nah I don't think Manning will "choke" (ESPN has over-used that word to hell and back and I am so sick of it). I expect both he and Rex to have pedestrian games, and the winner will be decided in the trenches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ox Posted February 1, 2007 Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 The only incorrect call from last year's SB was the low block call on Hassleback.AND the Roethlisberger TD. AND the holding call that brought back a pass to the one to Stevens. One can go on and on about that debacle. I think Peyton will get his this Sunday, with or without horrible SB 40-esque refing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rwalling Posted February 1, 2007 Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 There are only two possible outcomes for this game and they're diametrically opposed:1) Bears running game is too physical for the undersized Colts D, the Colts special teams are exposed by Devin Hester, and the Bears pass rush (Mark Anderson would have looked awfully good in stripes) panics Peyton... Bears by 3 touchdowns with a Super Bowl record for rushing yardsOR2) Peyton shreds the Bears D the way Carson did last year which takes away the Bears running game and your headed to a Colts blow out by 35. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted February 1, 2007 Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 ...and the Bears pass rush (Mark Anderson would have looked awfully good in stripes) panics Peyton...On that note, was reading the breakdown done by the guys over at footballoutsiders.com and this tidbit caught my eye:In the Football Outsiders game charting project, we asked charters to mark whenever a pass was hurried. Again, this is unofficial data, and imperfect, but 12 percent of Colts passes were marked as hurried — about average. Yet 56 percent of those plays ended up successful by the same standards we use for DVOA.Even under pressure, Manning's pretty good. The kicker?Cincinnati was the only other team above 50 percent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoTbOy Posted February 1, 2007 Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 Yeah i also don't think that he will choke, I think with TDungy knowing what to do against the cover2 that it will be ez pickings for PManning...Don't get me wrong I don't like him but I do think they will win...I know this doesn't mean a thing, but we beat the Bears last year in Chicago, we couldn't beat the Colts last year in Cincy or this year in Indy...and the difference is PManning... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShulaSteakhouse Posted February 5, 2007 Report Share Posted February 5, 2007 He didn't choke, only made one early mistake, in a downpour nonetheless, and has a ring finally.Solidified himself with the greats last night.Rex Grossman may be the worst Superbowl QB ever on the opposite end of things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walzav29 Posted February 5, 2007 Report Share Posted February 5, 2007 Ooops! I was wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairOnFire Posted February 5, 2007 Report Share Posted February 5, 2007 Ooops! I was wrong. Don't start eating crow now. (You'd never finish.) Just kidding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted February 5, 2007 Report Share Posted February 5, 2007 Does the Colts winning yesterday inspire any extra hope for Bengals fans here? We have a nearly identical offense (when Perry's healthy), and we run the same defense. With some work and some experience... who knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacD BengalFan Posted February 5, 2007 Report Share Posted February 5, 2007 Rex Grossman may be the worst Superbowl QB ever on the opposite end of things.No, no. Even though Big Ben has a ring, Rex actully played better then Big Ben. So as far as I am concerned, Big Ben is the worst Super Bowl QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirkendall Posted February 5, 2007 Report Share Posted February 5, 2007 Does the Colts winning yesterday inspire any extra hope for Bengals fans here? We have a nearly identical offense (when Perry's healthy), and we run the same defense. With some work and some experience... who knows.Not at all. Colts won with their defense -- Manning was nearly a non-factor all playoffs. (MVP my ass) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted February 5, 2007 Report Share Posted February 5, 2007 Well manning did preatty much choke,it was rungame/defense that saved the day...He in no way deserved the MVP people who voted for him are idiots...Rhoades should have threw him under the bus for it like manning does to his teammates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted February 5, 2007 Report Share Posted February 5, 2007 Does the Colts winning yesterday inspire any extra hope for Bengals fans here? We have a nearly identical offense (when Perry's healthy), and we run the same defense. With some work and some experience... who knows.Not at all. Colts won with their defense -- Manning was nearly a non-factor all playoffs. (MVP my ass)Yep, Manning was pretty pathetic in the postseason. His stats, courtesy CHFF:97 for 153 (63.4%), 1,034 yards, 6.76 YPA, 3 TD, 7 INTs, 70.5 passer ratingThe Colts D did step up...but the other thing to remember was Rhodes and Addai. They were the Nos. 1 and 3 rushers in the postseason. Together, they rolled up 600 yards (and another 188 combined in the air). Rhodes averaged just under 5 yards a carry, Addai just under 4.Also notable: the postseason's leading receiver? Yeah, that would be The Position That Dare Not Speak Its Name In Cincinnati. Dallas Clark, 317 yards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalszoneBilly Posted February 5, 2007 Report Share Posted February 5, 2007 Rex Grossman may be the worst Superbowl QB ever on the opposite end of things.No, no. Even though Big Ben has a ring, Rex actully played better then Big Ben. So as far as I am concerned, Big Ben is the worst Super Bowl QB.True. Even Rex did better than Roethlisbergers horrid 22.6 Superbowl QB rating! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirkendall Posted February 6, 2007 Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 Well manning did preatty much choke,it was rungame/defense that saved the day...He in no way deserved the MVP people who voted for him are idiots...Rhoades should have threw him under the bus for it like manning does to his teammates.Can you classify a player as choking if they win the game?Does the Colts winning yesterday inspire any extra hope for Bengals fans here? We have a nearly identical offense (when Perry's healthy), and we run the same defense. With some work and some experience... who knows.Not at all. Colts won with their defense -- Manning was nearly a non-factor all playoffs. (MVP my ass)Yep, Manning was pretty pathetic in the postseason. His stats, courtesy CHFF:97 for 153 (63.4%), 1,034 yards, 6.76 YPA, 3 TD, 7 INTs, 70.5 passer ratingThe Colts D did step up...but the other thing to remember was Rhodes and Addai. They were the Nos. 1 and 3 rushers in the postseason. Together, they rolled up 600 yards (and another 188 combined in the air). Rhodes averaged just under 5 yards a carry, Addai just under 4.Also notable: the postseason's leading receiver? Yeah, that would be The Position That Dare Not Speak Its Name In Cincinnati. Dallas Clark, 317 yards.Also, look at the Colts third downs. They converted 46.9%. That's best among all teams and the Colts played one more game than everyone else -- actually two games over everyone else if you take out New England's three games. What does third down conversions do? They keep the offense on the field. The Colts dominated time of possession in the playoffs, 35:02. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted February 6, 2007 Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 Does the Colts winning yesterday inspire any extra hope for Bengals fans here? We have a nearly identical offense (when Perry's healthy), and we run the same defense. With some work and some experience... who knows.Not at all. Colts won with their defense -- Manning was nearly a non-factor all playoffs. (MVP my ass) I agree with that, but I ask that question with defense primarily in mind. They (and the Bears) run the same much maligned scheme we run here, and that instills at least a little hope in me. We might need some personnel upgrades, or we might not... but the scheme can get it done if executed properly. I wasn't as confident in that idea before the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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