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Kenton Co. Investigates Chris Henry After Thurman's DUI

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In the wake of O'dell Thurman's arrest for drunk driving, Kenton County authorities are now looking into whether his fellow Bengals teammate, Chris Henry, violated the conditions of his bond.

Henry was in the same vehicle Thurman was driving when he was pulled over at a DUI checkpoint.

Chief Prosecutor Ken Easterling is investigating whether Henry consumed alcohol that night.

Earlier this year, Henry was charged with providing alcohol to underage girls in Covington.

If Henry is found in violation of his bond, he could return to jail.

Is consumption alone considered a violation of the bond? I'm not sure how they'd prove anything anyways.

HoosierCat Grand Master

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Is consumption alone considered a violation of the bond?

Apparently

I'm not sure how they'd prove anything anyways.

He was supposedly out at a bar drinking with Thurman and Reggie. I would think there would be witnesses (bartenders, bouncers, wait staff, patrons).

I would be surprised if they were to go so far as to revoke his bond, tho.

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He was supposedly out at a bar drinking with Thurman and Reggie. I would think there would be witnesses (bartenders, bouncers, wait staff, patrons).

True enough. I'd be surprised if hear-say would be enough though.

HoosierCat Grand Master

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This is becoming a Soap Opera !!!

WHODEY !!!

Tune in next week for an all new episode of All....My....Ben..gals!

:lmao:

"As PBS Turns"?

"Plays of Our Lives"?

Or...all things considered...just "General Hospital"?

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This is becoming a Soap Opera !!!

WHODEY !!!

Tune in next week for an all new episode of All....My....Ben..gals!

Mine isn't original, it's been a bit on Gary Burbank on 700wlw for a while. Not sure if they still do it though. Now would be a good time to start it back up if not.

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What sort of moron goes out to a bar and drinks when authorities in two states have mandated he not do so as terms of probation/bond, and you're a star NFL player to boot?

If Clermont finds him guilty of consuming alcohol, you wonder what Florida will do.

HoosierCat Grand Master

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I'm not sure if no booze was a condition of his probation in Florida; I'd heard that initially but I think it's just a matter of all the Henry court cases getting mixed up.

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I'm not sure if no booze was a condition of his probation in Florida; I'd heard that initially but I think it's just a matter of all the Henry court cases getting mixed up.

Yeah I don't know that it's confirmed, but it's very typical of any probation, at any level, to include banning alcohol consumption, I believe.

Hard to enforce, but if you get caught...

BengalszoneBilly Newbie

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I'm not sure how they'd prove anything anyways.

Bottom line...they can't. Nobody legally tested Henry for anything, and now the whole incident is over and done with. From a legal perspective, throwing up isn't a crime. Screw the Kenton County cops. I went to high school with most of them. Now go stop some real crime for a change, like rapists and child molesters you fat, doughnut eating, "do-as-I-say-not-as-I-do" bastards! :angry:

Yeah I don't know that it's confirmed, but it's very typical of any probation, at any level, to include banning alcohol consumption, I believe.

Hard to enforce, but if you get caught...

He wasn't. Odell was.

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What sort of moron goes out to a bar and drinks when authorities in two states have mandated he not do so as terms of probation/bond, and you're a star NFL player to boot?

If Clermont finds him guilty of consuming alcohol, you wonder what Florida will do.

He sounds like a member of my family.

I seriously doubt this goes anywhere. I'd be shocked if they tried to dig up witnesses at a bar or tried to make Odell testify. As long as he doesn't have a breathalyzer on record, I feel comfortable that this goes nowhere.

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He was supposedly out at a bar drinking with Thurman and Reggie. I would think there would be witnesses (bartenders, bouncers, wait staff, patrons).

True enough. I'd be surprised if hear-say would be enough though.

It's not hearsay if somebody witnesses him drinking/stumbling/vomitting. Plus we're not talking about "guilty beyond a reasonable doubt", just the discretion of the judge to determine bail.

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I'm not sure how they'd prove anything anyways.

Bottom line...they can't. Nobody legally tested Henry for anything, and now the whole incident is over and done with. From a legal perspective, throwing up isn't a crime. Screw the Kenton County cops. I went to high school with most of them. Now go stop some real crime for a change, like rapists and child molesters you fat, doughnut eating, "do-as-I-say-not-as-I-do" bastards! :angry:

Yeah I don't know that it's confirmed, but it's very typical of any probation, at any level, to include banning alcohol consumption, I believe.

Hard to enforce, but if you get caught...

He wasn't. Odell was.

X2.

They cannot prove anything. This is a non issue. Witnesses may say they saw him drinking, but that is heresay as that they can't prove what he was drinking. This will die quickly.

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He was supposedly out at a bar drinking with Thurman and Reggie. I would think there would be witnesses (bartenders, bouncers, wait staff, patrons).

True enough. I'd be surprised if hear-say would be enough though.

It's not hearsay if somebody witnesses him drinking/stumbling/vomitting. Plus we're not talking about "guilty beyond a reasonable doubt", just the discretion of the judge to determine bail.

It's quite obvious Henry was drinking, I won't even bother arguing that. I'm just not convinced a judge can go on the word of witnesses at the bar when it comes to determining a definite violation of a bond like that.

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I'm not sure how they'd prove anything anyways.

Bottom line...they can't. Nobody legally tested Henry for anything, and now the whole incident is over and done with. From a legal perspective, throwing up isn't a crime. Screw the Kenton County cops. I went to high school with most of them. Now go stop some real crime for a change, like rapists and child molesters you fat, doughnut eating, "do-as-I-say-not-as-I-do" bastards! :angry:

Yeah I don't know that it's confirmed, but it's very typical of any probation, at any level, to include banning alcohol consumption, I believe.

Hard to enforce, but if you get caught...

He wasn't. Odell was.

As I mentioned above, they don't need to prove anything. All they need is a witness to say they saw him drinking.

And banning alcohol is usually only a condition of probation if alcohol was involved in the crime. Could be that alcohol was a factor in the Florida case, but it's probably not a condition of probation.

They cannot prove anything. This is a non issue. Witnesses may say they saw him drinking, but that is heresay as that they can't prove what he was drinking. This will die quickly.

Look up the word "hearsay" in the dictionary. You're just wrong.

It's quite obvious Henry was drinking, I won't even bother arguing that. I'm just not convinced a judge can go on the word of witnesses at the bar when it comes to determining a definite violation of a bond like that.

Legally speaking, it only takes one reliable witness to prove anything. I'm guessing Henry's waitress would qualify. I'm also guessing that the drinks weren't free so there will be a paper trail showing just how many drinks were ordered. We're not talking about a round of beers here, we're talking about the vast quantity of alcohol it would take to make three large men's BAC two times the legal driving limit.

And as I alluded to above, we're not talking about a trial here, we're talking about a bail/bond hearing. Judges can do drastic things with much less evidence.

HoosierCat Grand Master

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Some more info...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/wlwt/20060926/lo_wlwt/9939601

Chris Henry might be looking at jail time in Northern Kentucky after Odell Thurman's drunken-driving arrest.

Henry was in the car Thurman was driving early Monday when the linebacker was pulled over. Henry was caught vomiting out the window, and Kenton County prosecutor Ken Easterling said if that condition was the result of drinking, Henry could wind up behind bars.

A judge ordered Henry to stay away from alcohol when he bonded out on a drug charge.

"It's contemptuous, which means in Kentucky, you go to jail for six months. It may be a violation of a condition of bond, which means you could go to jail up to a year. It may just be civil revocation, where the judge simply orders him or puts some new conditions on him," Easterling said.

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hearsay--Unverified information heard or received from another; rumor.

Law. Evidence based on the reports of others rather than the personal knowledge of a witness and therefore generally not admissible as testimony.

Hmmm. Well Henry was drinking something.

Can you, or anyone else prove it was an alcoholic beverage, and not just a coke or the like?

So say they go to the bartender. Henry ordered drinks. Does that mean he actually consumed them? Not necessarily.

Without an actual blood acohol/piss/breath test, this is an unprovable aspect. I bet the attorneys don't even go ahead with it anyway.

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