rwjcgc Posted November 17, 2008 Report Share Posted November 17, 2008 He has proven once again that he can't perform with the game on the line.There was no accountability when he failed several times at the end of the year a couple seasons back on kicks that ultimately wouldhave put the Bengals in the postseason.It's time to cut this choker loose at the end of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted November 17, 2008 Report Share Posted November 17, 2008 He was kicking in to the wind wasn't he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted November 17, 2008 Report Share Posted November 17, 2008 Meh. A 47 yard FG is no gimme. That said, teams had a terrible day today. Three penalties on punt returns, more crappy punting from Larson, Shayne kicks off out of bounds. And the missed FG. Darrin Simmons needs to be doing something else next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjakq27 Posted November 17, 2008 Report Share Posted November 17, 2008 Meh. A 47 yard FG is no gimme. That said, teams had a terrible day today.He has one of the highest percentages and all of that but that's two times that he missed a game winner. I don't know if they should have kicked it on third down or not but it seemed a little too rushed for me. Something didn't seem quite right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted November 17, 2008 Report Share Posted November 17, 2008 Meh. A 47 yard FG is no gimme. That said, teams had a terrible day today.He has one of the highest percentages Just wondering what are his percentages from 40+ though because I know alot of em come from 20-30 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pidge Posted November 17, 2008 Report Share Posted November 17, 2008 One missed kick = falling apart? It's unfortunate when a kicker makes a mistake, they are all the more obvious, but c'mon. He's a good kicker and they aren't actually all that common. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smith288 Posted November 17, 2008 Report Share Posted November 17, 2008 Not much Graham could do. From that distance and the wind in your face, you just kick and hope the wind is swirling the right way. It wasn't. That's hardly falling apart. It's Bengals style luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoTbOy Posted November 17, 2008 Report Share Posted November 17, 2008 I hate that SGraham missed the FG but he is still a pretty decent K, I don't know if there is anyone out there who is better than what we got... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ickey44 Posted November 17, 2008 Report Share Posted November 17, 2008 A 47 yard field goal is never a gimme, but add to that swirling winds and cold weather and that makes the kick that much more difficult. Graham has won us a few games with his leg. He's one of the best kickers in the league. I think we just need to calm down about Graham. Besides, if the offense scores a touchdown after the McNabb fumble, this is a moot point, isn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjakq27 Posted November 17, 2008 Report Share Posted November 17, 2008 After watching four or five of Rocca's punts sail to the Bengals sidelines, a little adjustment by Graham might have been in order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
membengal Posted November 17, 2008 Report Share Posted November 17, 2008 How about the team realize that any figgie from beyond 40 yards was a coin flip, and get an extra f**kin' 8 yards to make it more manageable? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirkendall Posted November 17, 2008 Report Share Posted November 17, 2008 A 47 yard field goal is never a gimme, but add to that swirling winds and cold weather and that makes the kick that much more difficult. Graham has won us a few games with his leg. He's one of the best kickers in the league. I think we just need to calm down about Graham.With the conditions and distance, he didn't miss by far either. He makes that next time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ickey44 Posted November 17, 2008 Report Share Posted November 17, 2008 How about the team realize that any figgie from beyond 40 yards was a coin flip, and get an extra f**kin' 8 yards to make it more manageable?You mean instead of running that lame HB lead up the middle? Yeah, that woulda been something, but again, Bratkowski can't think like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
membengal Posted November 17, 2008 Report Share Posted November 17, 2008 How about the team realize that any figgie from beyond 40 yards was a coin flip, and get an extra f**kin' 8 yards to make it more manageable?You mean instead of running that lame HB lead up the middle? Yeah, that woulda been something, but again, Bratkowski can't think like that.Yeah, that.In fairness, they made the same f**king mistake at the end of 2006 when Graham missed the figgie into the same end with a swirling wind to cost them a playoff berth. And in that instance, they again sat on the ball rather than trying to get closer.So it's not like they could have learned from that mistake. Oh, wait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjakq27 Posted November 18, 2008 Report Share Posted November 18, 2008 A 47 yard field goal is never a gimme, but add to that swirling winds and cold weather and that makes the kick that much more difficult. Graham has won us a few games with his leg. He's one of the best kickers in the league. I think we just need to calm down about Graham.With the conditions and distance, he didn't miss by far either. He makes that next time.I hear ya Kirk but this team can't afford anymore next times. Especially from one of the cornerstones of this team.Nice to see ya, BTW! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalPimp Posted November 18, 2008 Report Share Posted November 18, 2008 Meh. A 47 yard FG is no gimme. That said, teams had a terrible day today.He has one of the highest percentages Just wondering what are his percentages from 40+ though because I know alot of em come from 20-30 They sure do....the guy may be accurate, but he has a weak leg (although the 47-yarder had the distance, just went right). The guy is also garbage on kickoffs, and has been his whole career....They don't need to spend money on this guy at the end of the year, that money would be better spent elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted November 18, 2008 Report Share Posted November 18, 2008 85%+ for 40-49 for past 2 season75-77 in the 2 seasons before that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalSIS Posted November 18, 2008 Report Share Posted November 18, 2008 Meh. A 47 yard FG is no gimme. That said, teams had a terrible day today.He has one of the highest percentages Just wondering what are his percentages from 40+ though because I know alot of em come from 20-30 They sure do....the guy may be accurate, but he has a weak leg (although the 47-yarder had the distance, just went right). The guy is also garbage on kickoffs, and has been his whole career....They don't need to spend money on this guy at the end of the year, that money would be better spent elsewhere.I'm sorry, when you can post facts, we'll take your word to mean something. His "weak leg" had the distance for the 62 yard kick into the wind that he missed WIDE RIGHT last year. His "weak leg" is 8th is % of kickoffs resulting in touchbacks this year. His WEAK leg, has one of the best career % of kicks beyond the 45 of all NFL kickers. Come back when you know what the hell you are talkin about. Jeezus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ickey44 Posted November 18, 2008 Report Share Posted November 18, 2008 Meh. A 47 yard FG is no gimme. That said, teams had a terrible day today.He has one of the highest percentages Just wondering what are his percentages from 40+ though because I know alot of em come from 20-30 They sure do....the guy may be accurate, but he has a weak leg (although the 47-yarder had the distance, just went right). The guy is also garbage on kickoffs, and has been his whole career....They don't need to spend money on this guy at the end of the year, that money would be better spent elsewhere.I'm sorry, when you can post facts, we'll take your word to mean something. His "weak leg" had the distance for the 62 yard kick into the wind that he missed WIDE RIGHT last year. His "weak leg" is 8th is % of kickoffs resulting in touchbacks this year. His WEAK leg, has one of the best career % of kicks beyond the 45 of all NFL kickers. Come back when you know what the hell you are talkin about. Jeezus.Right on. I've seen him consistantly kick kick-offs into the endzone this year. I don't know what team you're watching, Pimp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted November 18, 2008 Report Share Posted November 18, 2008 To the starter of this thread, you wouldn't happen to be the same guy from Go-Bengals that started a similar thread only to get his balls kicked in by the posters there would you ?? If not, allow me the opportunity to simply say that all these threads in regards to Shayne are f*cking stupid. Please feel free to post some facts as to why Shayne is actually as poor as your "opinions" state he is.Yeah he missed the kick, sh*t happens. Focus your anger where it should firmly be directed and that is with the poor play calling by Bratf**kingkowski !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted November 18, 2008 Report Share Posted November 18, 2008 Oh hey, how about we bring in Ryan Lindell from the Bills ?? Wait a minute, he missed a 47 yarder that actually resulted in a LOSS for his team last night against the Browns. Like I said, SH*T happens... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rwjcgc Posted November 18, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2008 To the starter of this thread, you wouldn't happen to be the same guy from Go-Bengals that started a similar thread only to get his balls kicked in by the posters there would you ?? If not, allow me the opportunity to simply say that all these threads in regards to Shayne are f*cking stupid. Please feel free to post some facts as to why Shayne is actually as poor as your "opinions" state he is.Yeah he missed the kick, sh*t happens. Focus your anger where it should firmly be directed and that is with the poor play calling by Bratf**kingkowski !!!ArmyBengal,I've never been on the Go-Bengals site. There is no anger, just an observation on my part. I have zero confidence in Graham beingable to hit a clutch kick w/ any degree of difficulty to win games. Granted the team doesn't put him in that spot very often, but when ithas, he misses 'em more than he hits 'em. Why are you so angry over a football game in this lost season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rwjcgc Posted November 18, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2008 Meh. A 47 yard FG is no gimme. That said, teams had a terrible day today.He has one of the highest percentages Just wondering what are his percentages from 40+ though because I know alot of em come from 20-30 They sure do....the guy may be accurate, but he has a weak leg (although the 47-yarder had the distance, just went right). The guy is also garbage on kickoffs, and has been his whole career....They don't need to spend money on this guy at the end of the year, that money would be better spent elsewhere.I'm sorry, when you can post facts, we'll take your word to mean something. His "weak leg" had the distance for the 62 yard kick into the wind that he missed WIDE RIGHT last year. His "weak leg" is 8th is % of kickoffs resulting in touchbacks this year. His WEAK leg, has one of the best career % of kicks beyond the 45 of all NFL kickers. Come back when you know what the hell you are talkin about. Jeezus.BengalSis,Your brother is a great player. He has a wonderful percentage (#3 all time), says all the right things in the interviews, loved by the fanbase, etc. However, his one problem is he chokes in the clutch.He's the Dan Marino of kickers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregstephens Posted November 18, 2008 Report Share Posted November 18, 2008 To the starter of this thread, you wouldn't happen to be the same guy from Go-Bengals that started a similar thread only to get his balls kicked in by the posters there would you ?? If not, allow me the opportunity to simply say that all these threads in regards to Shayne are f*cking stupid. Please feel free to post some facts as to why Shayne is actually as poor as your "opinions" state he is.Yeah he missed the kick, sh*t happens. Focus your anger where it should firmly be directed and that is with the poor play calling by Bratf**kingkowski !!!ArmyBengal,Why are you so angry over a football game in this lost season?Boy, you really ARE relatively new, aren't you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COB Posted November 18, 2008 Report Share Posted November 18, 2008 He has a wonderful percentage (#3 all timeAll the measurables, all the stats, anything quantifiable, Graham shows he is an excellent kicker.So you criticize him by saying he's a choker. Convenient that the quality you say he lacks (ability under pressure) isn't something that can be measured in any way. Completely subjective measurement. I'll say this in his defense - The end of the '06 season had a lot to do with the things that happened before Shayne swung his leg, like the snap and the hold. One last thing, since you are so ready to let Shayne walk, you must know something I don't, that there sits idly by a great kicker we can get in here who will be better than Shayne Graham. Please name him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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