Worse loss under Marvin?

[cincyhokie]

Aside from today's loss, the only one I can think of was game in 2006 at home against San Diego. They were up 28-7 at halftime and lost 41-38.

Today's loss was extremely deflating. I would say that it's the worse loss in the last 7 years.

[SupaBran]

I can't think of a recent worse one but def. change worthy

[Orange and black fanatic]

Easily. Given they won the AFC North last year, with nearly everyone back at home against TB.

[Stripes]

@ Denver 2006

Also, that SD game in 2006 actually ended 49-41, just to show how horrific the defense was that day.

[cincyhokie]

Got to go with today without a doubt.

All the Bengals had to do was continue to run the ball with 2:30 to go in the 4th. They go against all football logic and pass the ball on 3rd and 13. INT.

There is no excuse to explain this one. Depressing.

[volcom69]

I think all the coaches were pretty crappy today.

One thing i can say is that the o-line had a decent day, and Andre played alot today and thought he did pretty good.

[HoosierCat]

They go against all football logic and pass the ball on 3rd and 13. INT.

Passing on 3rd and 13 is "against all football logic"? Really? I think you're reaching.

As for the question of worst loss, I'll go with the playoff loss to the Jets last year.

[gregstephens]

They go against all football logic and pass the ball on 3rd and 13. INT.

Passing on 3rd and 13 is "against all football logic"? Really? I think you're reaching.

As for the question of worst loss, I'll go with the playoff loss to the Jets last year.

Ok...correction. Passing on 3rd and 13 when there are 2:20 left in the game and the other team only has one time out left when you should run and then punt to hopefully pin the opponent deep in their own territory is against all football logic. And, yes...really.

And I'll go playoff loss to the Steelers in 2006. Last year's game was bad...that one was just spirit crushing with 59:30 minutes of the game left.

[cincyhokie]

They go against all football logic and pass the ball on 3rd and 13. INT.

Passing on 3rd and 13 is "against all football logic"? Really? I think you're reaching.

As for the question of worst loss, I'll go with the playoff loss to the Jets last year.

You're up a TD, there's 2:30 or so left in the game. The other team has no timeouts, your punter is crushing the ball, and other team can't move the ball against your defense. Oh, and your RB has 144 yards rushing.

What's the point of passing?

[cincyhokie]

They go against all football logic and pass the ball on 3rd and 13. INT.

Passing on 3rd and 13 is "against all football logic"? Really? I think you're reaching.

As for the question of worst loss, I'll go with the playoff loss to the Jets last year.

Ok...correction. Passing on 3rd and 13 when there are 2:20 left in the game and the other team only has one time out left when you should run and then punt to hopefully pin the opponent deep in their own territory is against all football logic. And, yes...really.

And I'll go playoff loss to the Steelers in 2006. Last year's game was bad...that one was just spirit crushing with 59:30 minutes of the game left.

Thanks for adding some of that for me. I figured most people would have seen that turning point of implosion. I didn't feel I needed to give the full play by play.

[volcom69]

Marvin was quoted to say "you cant play scared", yes Marvin this is true, but you cant also play stupid!!!!!! Run the ball with what little time was left, and Tampa only had 1 timeout! Pin them back, and make them drive the field. Marvin is stupid!

[HoosierCat]

They go against all football logic and pass the ball on 3rd and 13. INT.

Passing on 3rd and 13 is "against all football logic"? Really? I think you're reaching.

As for the question of worst loss, I'll go with the playoff loss to the Jets last year.

You're up a TD, there's 2:30 or so left in the game. The other team has no timeouts, your punter is crushing the ball, and other team can't move the ball against your defense. Oh, and your RB has 144 yards rushing.

What's the point of passing?

You don't play to punt the ball. 3rd and 13 is a passing down. Moreover, everyone seems to ignore that the Bucs followed the pick up by ramming it 50 yards downfield for a TD. Any reason to believe they couldn't have done that from the 20?

[cincyhokie]

They go against all football logic and pass the ball on 3rd and 13. INT.

Passing on 3rd and 13 is "against all football logic"? Really? I think you're reaching.

As for the question of worst loss, I'll go with the playoff loss to the Jets last year.

You're up a TD, there's 2:30 or so left in the game. The other team has no timeouts, your punter is crushing the ball, and other team can't move the ball against your defense. Oh, and your RB has 144 yards rushing.

What's the point of passing?

You don't play to punt the ball. 3rd and 13 is a passing down. Moreover, everyone seems to ignore that the Bucs followed the pick up by ramming it 50 yards downfield for a TD. Any reason to believe they couldn't have done that from the 20?

Having the ball and moving it from the 20 is much different than moving it from the 50. This doesn't even mention the momentum shift caused by the turnover.

How much success did TB have moving the ball from deep in their own territory in the 4th quarter?

Sorry man, nobody agrees with that. Again, what is there to GAIN from passing the ball?

[HoosierCat]

Sorry man, nobody agrees with that. Again, what is there to GAIN from passing the ball?

Um, first down, maintain possession, run out the clock, win the game?

Crazy concept, I know.

It's funny to listen to this tonight. Last season, I can remember endless complaints about the Bengals "turtling up" and trying to nurse a slim lead, and thereby giving the other team extra opportunities. Today, the complaint is that they didn't turtle up. Hindsight is a wonderful thing, isn't it?

[gregstephens]

Sorry man, nobody agrees with that. Again, what is there to GAIN from passing the ball?

Um, first down, maintain possession, run out the clock, win the game?

Crazy concept, I know.

It's funny to listen to this tonight. Last season, I can remember endless complaints about the Bengals "turtling up" and trying to nurse a slim lead, and thereby giving the other team extra opportunities. Today, the complaint is that they didn't turtle up. Hindsight is a wonderful thing, isn't it?

You do not risk that kind of a turnover with 2:20 left in the game and the other team with just one time out. I'm sorry the previous play calling resulted in them being in that 3rd and 13 situation, however, you do not put that ball in the air. Unless...you are scared of your defense. And frankly, while the defense did an overall horrible job, they were pretty good the previous two possessions leading up to this series. When they pressured Freeman in the fourth quarter, they looked solid.

Bottom line, it was a stupid call. Punt that ball and make them earn that extra 30 yards or so.

[Spor_tees]

The loss to Oakland last year was pretty bad too. They had the lead to then blow their load with a Td given up on defense followed by a last second fumble by Caldwell that gave the Raiders a game winning FG at the gun.

[HoosierCat]

Sorry man, nobody agrees with that. Again, what is there to GAIN from passing the ball?

Um, first down, maintain possession, run out the clock, win the game?

Crazy concept, I know.

It's funny to listen to this tonight. Last season, I can remember endless complaints about the Bengals "turtling up" and trying to nurse a slim lead, and thereby giving the other team extra opportunities. Today, the complaint is that they didn't turtle up. Hindsight is a wonderful thing, isn't it?

You do not risk that kind of a turnover with 2:20 left in the game

You risk a turnover every play. No guarantee that if they run it, Benson or Scott doesn't fumble.

It turned out to be a bad play, yes. But it was not a play call that was "against all football logic." It was a perfectly understandable, even predictable call. It's a call that 32 out of 32 teams make in that position.

That one's on the guys on the field, not the coaches.

[Stripes]

Bratkowski had his moronic calls today, but I'm with Hoosier on this one. It's just too easy to whine about the call when the result was an interception. Playing for the first down was just as logical as playing for the punt.

[cincyhokie]

Sorry man, nobody agrees with that. Again, what is there to GAIN from passing the ball?

Um, first down, maintain possession, run out the clock, win the game?

Crazy concept, I know.

It's funny to listen to this tonight. Last season, I can remember endless complaints about the Bengals "turtling up" and trying to nurse a slim lead, and thereby giving the other team extra opportunities. Today, the complaint is that they didn't turtle up. Hindsight is a wonderful thing, isn't it?

Of course you do, I guess a better question would be is the risk worth the benefit in this situation?

[volcom69]

Even if you throw the ball, on 3rd and 13 use a screen pass, dont throw it into traffic like he did. Carson tries to force the ball way to much, especially to Chad which i wish he would stop doing that.

I still wanna know where the running game was in the first half. They only ran the ball like 10 times, they had success using it, so why not keep doing whats working? I dont get this team.

[cincyhokie]

Sorry man, nobody agrees with that. Again, what is there to GAIN from passing the ball?

Um, first down, maintain possession, run out the clock, win the game?

Crazy concept, I know.

It's funny to listen to this tonight. Last season, I can remember endless complaints about the Bengals "turtling up" and trying to nurse a slim lead, and thereby giving the other team extra opportunities. Today, the complaint is that they didn't turtle up. Hindsight is a wonderful thing, isn't it?

You do not risk that kind of a turnover with 2:20 left in the game

You risk a turnover every play. No guarantee that if they run it, Benson or Scott doesn't fumble.

It turned out to be a bad play, yes. But it was not a play call that was "against all football logic." It was a perfectly understandable, even predictable call. It's a call that 32 out of 32 teams make in that position.

That one's on the guys on the field, not the coaches.

It was so predictable that the other team knew the route. Check out the post game quotes in the Enquirer.

If your RB is running the ball well and your defense is dominant....and the other team has no time outs in a passing situation......you protect the ball.

Of course you run the risk of a turnover every play but running the ball is the much better way of protecting it. I'm not going to go into why if you don't already know.

[Stripes]

I still wanna know where the running game was in the first half.

That's about all that needs said about this game, IMO. Palmer's errors, the penalties, and the dropped passes all could have been overcome or avoided had the Bengals just given the damned ball to Benson.

[Stripes]

and your defense is dominant...

eh

[cincyhokie]

Bratkowski had his moronic calls today, but I'm with Hoosier on this one. It's just too easy to whine about the call when the result was an interception. Playing for the first down was just as logical as playing for the punt.

I'm not whining about anything. I was yelling from my seat in the end zone BEFORE the play NOT to do it.

[cincyhokie]

and your defense is dominant...

eh

In the 4th quarter with the crowd into the game up until that point, how well was TB moving the ball?

All the momentum was in the Bengals favor up until that play.