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someone at my work who is a Ravens said something about how he is shocked that right now the Ravens aren't going for Kitna. I told him I'd only give Kitna up if we could work out something for Ed Reed, which obviously wouldn't happen. We'd be completely done IMO if we had him.

Then I got home and thought about it for a little bit. Marvin's going for the LONG TERM with this team, which is why we passed on all these "big name" chumps and always made trades for draft picks. I'd still take Reed which is a dream, but just a question

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someone at my work who is a Ravens said something about how he is shocked that right now the Ravens aren't going for Kitna. I told him I'd only give Kitna up if we could work out something for Ed Reed, which obviously wouldn't happen. We'd be completely done IMO if we had him.

Then I got home and thought about it for a little bit. Marvin's going for the LONG TERM with this team, which is why we passed on all these "big name" chumps and always made trades for draft picks. I'd still take Reed which is a dream, but just a question

Going for Kitna??? you make it sound as though he is on the market. He is not going to be a Raven he has way to much class for them, wouldn't fit in with the thugs of the NFL, and Coach Lewis is not about to give up the best backup in the league.

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someone at my work who is a Ravens said something about how he is shocked that right now the Ravens aren't going for Kitna. I told him I'd only give Kitna up if we could work out something for Ed Reed, which obviously wouldn't happen. We'd be completely done IMO if we had him.

Then I got home and thought about it for a little bit. Marvin's going for the LONG TERM with this team, which is why we passed on all these "big name" chumps and always made trades for draft picks. I'd still take Reed which is a dream, but just a question

I would take Terrell Suggs

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I think the same thing about him being the best backup in the NFL! I would only give him up based on that fact. If we got rid of him, there better be some damn good compensation. I don't THINK he's going anywhere. I think they're lining him up for coaching kinda stuff anyway. Palmer himself said Kitna was the biggest influence on his NFL career.

Ed Reed though, I'd probably be OKAY with that, but the Ravens would probably want a pick too and we know Marvin loves him some draft picks!

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First of all, no way in hell will the Ravens give up Reed or Suggs for Kitna. Trust me, Marvin would drive Kitna to Baltimore to get Ed Reed. Secondly, Anthony Wright is not a horrible qb, I bet he takes Boller's job (which isn't saying much).

Although I don't like it, I bet this is Kitna's last year as a Bengal. Krenzel is being groomed to take the #2 job.

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First of all, no way in hell will the Ravens give up Reed or Suggs for Kitna. Trust me, Marvin would drive Kitna to Baltimore to get Ed Reed. Secondly, Anthony Wright is not a horrible qb, I bet he takes Boller's job (which isn't saying much).

Although I don't like it, I bet this is Kitna's last year as a Bengal. Krenzel is being groomed to take the #2 job.

Well, the rumor mill says the Ravens are in the QB market...but yeah, I don't think they're going to hand over someone like Reed for Jon. And I would lend Marvin my new car to drive Kitna to Baltimore & get Reed.

Your last point brings up a good question, tho. If this is indeed Kit's last year in stripes (and it may not be, Kit may be perfectly happy hang out, sit on the bench, watch Palmer and collect Super Bowl rings) do we look to get some value there?

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In no way do you give up Kitna to the Ravens or any other team.

San Diego offers you Antonio Gates or the Dolphins want to trade Jason Taylor. No go huh? PU LEASE!

And you'd like to see Krenzel take the Bengals to the playoffs after Ray Lewis rolls up Carson's knee and puts him out for the season.

You put Ed Reed in that secondary, I'll take my damn chances with Krenzel. The difference between Ed Reed and KK is worlds bigger than the difference between Kitna and Krenzel. Ed Reed may be the best player in football.

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There's no way in hell we let the Ravens have Kitna for ANYTHING. Not even Reed.

You really want to give them a GOOD quarterback? One that...doesn't suck? One that legitamizes preseason superbowl hype?

I'll pass. So will Kitna.

Exactly! I wouldn't piss on 'em if they we on fire! So why in the world I would consider trading them what amounts to a hundred times better QB than that buttwipe Boller who's currently pulling them to the bottom of the AFC North like cement shoes on Jimmy Hoffa!!

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There's no way in hell we let the Ravens have Kitna for ANYTHING. Not even Reed.

You really want to give them a GOOD quarterback? One that...doesn't suck? One that legitamizes preseason superbowl hype?

I'll pass. So will Kitna.

Exactly! I wouldn't piss on 'em if they we on fire! So why in the world I would consider trading them what amounts to a hundred times better QB than that buttwipe Boller who's currently pulling them to the bottom of the AFC North like cement shoes on Jimmy Hoffa!!

I can understand why you wouldn't want to give them anything, but why in the world would you not want to TAKE possibly the best player in football away from them? Are you kidding me? Kitna is a nice backup, because he knows the system. You put him on Baltimore and he is no better than Boller. Yes, Kitna was the comeback player of the year two years ago. Tommy Maddox was as well and he too is collecting splinters.

You shop Kitna right now and at BEST you may get a 4th rounder. To even suggest that you wouldn't take Ed Reed for a slightly above average BACKUP qb, is just foolish and I can't believe we are even talking about it.

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I could never seeing the Bengals trading Kitna to an AFC North team, that would be shooting yourself in the foot. In fact, the Bengals may trade him, but i think it would be to the NFC. Kitna is better than half the Qb's in the league, and to trade him to a contender like Baltimore would be crazy.

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I could never seeing the Bengals trading Kitna to an AFC North team, that would be shooting yourself in the foot. In fact, the Bengals may trade him, but i think it would be to the NFC. Kitna is better than half the Qb's in the league, and to trade him to a contender like Baltimore would be crazy.

Please put down the Kool-Aid. Kitna is barely better than half the backups in the league. And people, please find out who Ed Reed is before deciding he is not worth giving up an average backup. That's kind of like saying you would not have traded Turk Schonert for Ronnie Lott.

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I could never seeing the Bengals trading Kitna to an AFC North team, that would be shooting yourself in the foot. In fact, the Bengals may trade him, but i think it would be to the NFC. Kitna is better than half the Qb's in the league, and to trade him to a contender like Baltimore would be crazy.

Please put down the Kool-Aid. Kitna is barely better than half the backups in the league. And people, please find out who Ed Reed is before deciding he is not worth giving up an average backup. That's kind of like saying you would not have traded Turk Schonert for Ronnie Lott.

There's no doubt that in a straight up trade, we'd end up with the better value. The problem lies in giving the Ravens that one last boost to becoming a legitimate good football team. Kitna is far better than Boller could ever hope to be. I don't care if he's a system QB. If he is handing the ball to Jamal Lewis and throwing it to Derrick Mason, then he'd be in good shape.

All sorts of "experts" would laud the Bengals and scold the Ravens for this move, but in the end, we'd be the ones getting screwed.

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I could never seeing the Bengals trading Kitna to an AFC North team, that would be shooting yourself in the foot. In fact, the Bengals may trade him, but i think it would be to the NFC. Kitna is better than half the Qb's in the league, and to trade him to a contender like Baltimore would be crazy.

Please put down the Kool-Aid. Kitna is barely better than half the backups in the league. And people, please find out who Ed Reed is before deciding he is not worth giving up an average backup. That's kind of like saying you would not have traded Turk Schonert for Ronnie Lott.

You may think he is only an average backup, but what makes him better then most is he knows the system. No QB in the league can step into the Bengals complicated system and make it work. If Carson goes down and the Bengals have to hand the riens to Craig Krenzal, the Bengals will not go anywhere because he is not versed in it complicities. But with Kitna, the team is assured of stability at QB and the confidence that the Offense will not miss a beat. Kitna is to valuable to the team because of his knowledge of the offense and leadership abilities, and Marvin recognizes this. Kitna is not going anywhere and no defensive player is worth it.

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You may think he is only an average backup, but what makes him better then most is he knows the system. No QB in the league can step into the Bengals complicated system and make it work. If Carson goes down and the Bengals have to hand the riens to Craig Krenzal, the Bengals will not go anywhere because he is not versed in it complicities. But with Kitna, the team is assured of stability at QB and the confidence that the Offense will not miss a beat. Kitna is to valuable to the team because of his knowledge of the offense and leadership abilities, and Marvin recognizes this. Kitna is not going anywhere and no defensive player is worth it.

Exactly.

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I could never seeing the Bengals trading Kitna to an AFC North team, that would be shooting yourself in the foot. In fact, the Bengals may trade him, but i think it would be to the NFC. Kitna is better than half the Qb's in the league, and to trade him to a contender like Baltimore would be crazy.

Please put down the Kool-Aid. Kitna is barely better than half the backups in the league. And people, please find out who Ed Reed is before deciding he is not worth giving up an average backup. That's kind of like saying you would not have traded Turk Schonert for Ronnie Lott.

Excellent job checking the facts(this is sarcasm). Kitna's last full season was 2003, in that year he had a QB rating of 87. I have included links to sites that put his ranking in the top 10 of the league and a fantasy site.

He is better than half the QBs in the League.

http://www.usfantasysports.com/rank/2003USFSQB.htm

http://www.nfl.com/stats/leaders/NFL/PRAT/2003/regular

One more thing, he was 9th in the league. I'll do the math for you, 32 teams, divide by 2, that equals 16. He was number 9 putting him in the top half of the league. Finally, i would trade him for Polamalu (spelling), but Ed Reed is getting old. Marvin likes young players, and while none of these trades would ever occur, it's okay to speculate.

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