He made the team???

[Stripes]

If Cliff Russell was such a great return man, he would have been picked up by now.

I'm saying he had potential to be above average, and that is the truth. The same can be said about Tab Perry, but Russell was more proven. Let's hope Tab can get the job done.

[DontPushMe]

I just voted and saw that Greg Brooks is running away with this thing...making me think that none of you ever saw him play in college. I'm very happy he made the final roster.

My vote? Tab Perry. I just watched Perry closely in the Colts game and all I can say is there are 4 or 5 better players on the practice squad.

Not suprising, given your ability to evaluate talent. I remember 4 years ago you saying Chad Johnson should be cut and was a bad pick, good thing they didnt listen to you there!

[Big Hugg]

Craig Krenzel

Ditto. Bramlet is better. Krenzel got the job solely from his OSU connects. No way he's better than Casey. Shula said it best. His arm sucks. I'd rather he run the ball than throw it!

If our 3rd QB is playing, we're pretty screwed anyway.

[BADITUDE]

Craig Krenzel

[TJJackson]

All Askew has ever done for this team is collect checks and keep the trainer's somewhat occupied with his half-hearted attempts to get healthy.

He should have been cut, and Langston Moore (who was signed almost immediately by a GOOD defensive team after being cut) should be a Bengal right now

[Bobcat Bengal]

All Askew has ever done for this team is collect checks and keep the trainer's somewhat occupied with his half-hearted attempts to get healthy.

He should have been cut, and Langston Moore (who was signed almost immediately by a GOOD defensive team after being cut) should be a Bengal right now

You could replace Askew's name with Brook's and people would agree as well.

[TJJackson]

Not the half-hearted part.

Askew wasn't ready to participate all year long last year and wasn't ready this year til late in camp

Brooks was in in everything til he got hurt again in camp. he arrived at camp rehabbed and ready to play. He was at all the mincamps, practicing. Askew wasn't rehabbed.

[BengalszoneBilly]

Craig Krenzel

Ditto. Bramlet is better. Krenzel got the job solely from his OSU connects. No way he's better than Casey. Shula said it best. His arm sucks. I'd rather he run the ball than throw it!

If our 3rd QB is playing, we're pretty screwed anyway.

As any team would be I suppose. I firmly believe we've got the best #2 QB in the game with Jon Kitna. I don't know of any #3 QB on any team that I'd be comfortable to see taking real snaps in a game for my team. Does anyone else know of any?

[TJJackson]

Bramlet was being groomed to take over for Kitna at some point. and he would have been ready in another year, two on the outside, to be a solid 2.

Krenzel is a waste of a locker and a uniform, and a waste of our qb-developing time

[DontPushMe]

Krenzel is a waste of a locker and a uniform, and a waste of our qb-developing time

Even the 2nd most clueless poster here (after AssOnFire) says something smart sometimes.

[The Big Orange]

After watching the Indy game thrice, I can see a lot of rationale for cuts going the way they did...

Shaun Smith flat out played Langston Moore and the upside with Askew is incomparable to Langston who has played half-assed this whole off-season and lost out on a great opprotunity.

Brandon Williams is a nightmare and so it's not much of a surprise that Greg Brooks beat him out...Brandon screams..."Come make an explosive play on me please."

Krenzel played way better than Bramlet, even though that's not what the numbers revealed...of course, if you want to run a team like a statistician then you should run the Redskins or the Raiders (not sure why I picked them out). Even though this one was close, this job was won in practice...they knew going into this last game...the announcers said when they put Krenzel in first, that Kitna went over to congratulate him, and the cameras followed Bramlet hoping to see disapointment.

I think Pete Lougheed, Brousard, and Curry are vulnerable on the PC that they might be replaced by someone we pick up off waiver wires. Quincey and Daze are vulnerable that somebody else might pick them up-I think. Body and Ghent are pretty safe.

I could see Navies and Brooks added to the PS...my greatest concern as far as depth is the O-line keeping only 9 and we have a glut of LB with strength throughout, but we probably need that because of how young they are.

The only guys who are on IR or PUP who would have been in regular rotation are Kieft (maybe) Herring (definately), Webster (maybe), Miller (maybe), Roberts (possibly), Viera (probably not), Wlkerson (doubtful), and Clemmons with his suspension (definately).

However, i was expecting most of those guys not to contribute significantly except maybe Herring (even though he was the weak link on D) and Duane in relief.

[TJJackson]

Krenzel is a waste of a locker and a uniform, and a waste of our qb-developing time

Even the 2nd most clueless poster here (after AssOnFire) says something smart sometimes.

Coming from a complete ass-bag blowhard moron like yourself, I take this as one of the finest compliments anyone could ever pay me.

Thank you, you've made my week.

[Stripes]

I just voted and saw that Greg Brooks is running away with this thing...making me think that none of you ever saw him play in college. I'm very happy he made the final roster.

My vote? Tab Perry. I just watched Perry closely in the Colts game and all I can say is there are 4 or 5 better players on the practice squad.

Not suprising, given your ability to evaluate talent. I remember 4 years ago you saying Chad Johnson should be cut and was a bad pick, good thing they didnt listen to you there!

You two have been at it for four years? Perhaps longer? I know this site hasn't existed that long, and I'm skeptical you'd have been followed here. Y'all need to just ignore each other, that's rediculous.

[HoosierCat]

You two have been at it for four years? Perhaps longer? I know this site hasn't existed that long, and I'm skeptical you'd have been followed here. Y'all need to just ignore each other, that's rediculous.

What, you think this is the only board DPM posts on?

He does the same act, under the same screename, over at the huddles boards. Has for years.

But as for four years ago...hmmm...at that time both hair and I were regulars on the old aol Bengals boards. We had our share of trolls there, but I don't recall pushy. In any event, I don't remember hair ever knocking the chad pick. The big WTF? that year was the Sean Brewer selection.

[bengalindian]

I firmly believe we've got the best #2 QB in the game with Jon Kitna.

Michael Vick's backup, Matt Schwaub(sp?) is pretty damn good. Might be better than Kitna because of his youth, but then again, Kitna might be better because of experience. Either way, this Schwaub guy is pretty damn good.

[Stripes]

I firmly believe we've got the best #2 QB in the game with Jon Kitna.

Michael Vick's backup, Matt Schwaub(sp?) is pretty damn good. Might be better than Kitna because of his youth, but then again, Kitna might be better because of experience. Either way, this Schwaub guy is pretty damn good.

Schuab has looked good in both of his preseasons, but last year in his regular season game he played terribly. I agree he's a solid backup, but I'd take Kitna over him.

[The_Next_Big_Thing]

I firmly believe we've got the best #2 QB in the game with Jon Kitna.

Michael Vick's backup, Matt Schwaub(sp?) is pretty damn good. Might be better than Kitna because of his youth, but then again, Kitna might be better because of experience. Either way, this Schwaub guy is pretty damn good.

Shaub actually looks better for the team than Vick at times, but I'd rather have Kitna come in off the bench because he has that leadership factor to keep the game going if Carson gets hurt.

[HairOnFire]

Not suprising, given your ability to evaluate talent. I remember 4 years ago you saying Chad Johnson should be cut and was a bad pick, good thing they didnt listen to you there!

Kinda figured you'd start lying outright sooner or later. Ask Joisey how I felt about Chad Johnson being drafted by the Bengals. He should be able to recall that on draft day I called Chad the potential #1 WR the Bengals lacked. Warrick, at best, was a potential #2. Oh, and I also loved the selection of TJ in the 7th round. Most fans didn't have a clue who he was. (You seem like that type.)

[HairOnFire]

What, you think this is the only board DPM posts on?

He does the same act, under the same screename, over at the huddles boards. Has for years.

But as for four years ago...hmmm...at that time both hair and I were regulars on the old aol Bengals boards. We had our share of trolls there, but I don't recall pushy. In any event, I don't remember hair ever knocking the chad pick.

And there it is. Pushy gets caught in another outright lie.

My first exposure to Pushy came on the Huddles board....which I joined just prior to the draft that produced Carson Palmer. Do the math. BTW, in that draft I was a major Palmer pimp in the vast struggle against the ignorant Leftwichians.

As for Chad, I've never questioned the pick. That said, given Pushy's history I now have to wonder if Chad isn't another one of those players that Pushy has flopped on.

[The Big Orange]

Don't Push Me...I love you. I love you. Do you hear me say "I love you". It's not your fault. It's not your fault, man. I'm telling you, it's not your fault. I love you. (The Big Orange wraps his large arms around a much smaller Don't Push Me).

Whatever happened to you when you were little that makes you reach out to others in hostility and annoyance...it's not your fault. Whatever crime pushes you to engage in this huge need of yours of affirmation, I want to give it to you.

I believe you believe that you are the smartest one here and right most of the time. I believe in you. I think you're swell. There, there, let it all out. I'm here for you, buddy.

Now it's over. That's enough. You okay now? Good, good. That's all you needed isn't it. Okay, it's all better now.

Now shut the Hell up.

[bengalboomer7]

I definitely know that I'm not in the mood to be as nice as Big O is.

[walshfan]

You know Push you add some insightful things to this board.. I enjoy allot of your commments and opinions about the team as a whole..

What you seem to need is a confirmation that your right allot... Ok you have it..

Your also wrong sometimes as we all are.. let it go and move on..its ok to be wrong or have someone else enlighten you sometimes....

[DontPushMe]

What I said about him and Chad Johnson has just as much truth in it as what he says about me and Chris Perry when he was picked. NONE. I have given him links to prove that he was wrong on that, but he keeps saying it over and over again, baseless. So I figure why not just make something up, and even after he proves it wrong, act like I didnt notice. It seems to work for HoF.

And yes I used to mostly post on the huddles, but over the past year I started coming here more, besides a couple morons like HoF and TJJackson, there are some great entertaining posters here.

My historys? The only player ive ever "flopped" on is Madieu. Im right almost all the time, even the greats (me) are wrong sometimes.

[jamesbrooks21]

To me it would be Craig Krenzel. Casey Bramlet doubled him up in QB Rating(120.5 to 59.2), and out-performed him in every area except yards where Krenzel had 17 more attempts. I know Marvin said he likes the way Krenzel manages the game and operates the offense but IMO I thought he as clearly outplayed and the biggest surprise. Not to mention the fact that Bramlet had a year up on him as far as the system goes as well.

[walshfan]

Marvin stated that the numbers didnt mean anything to him.. He said it was close..