Well Cincy and colts have no chance @ the Playoffs

[Kazkal]

Bengals are 1-2!!! in the preseason and the colts are 0-4 OMFG! were both screwed!!!!

"Orders a tom brady jersey"

:player: :player:

[BlackJesus]

Ok I was crunching the numbers from the Pre Season and since we know it is such an accurate barometer of Regular Season Success I thought that you would like to know that the

Colts who are currently 0-4 ........ will be the first team to go 0-16

Also the Arizona Cardinals & Denver Broncos Both (3-0) will be the first 2 Teams to ever go 19-0 and meet in the Superbowl !!!

[HoosierCat]

Who's saying that the Bengals are screwed because the lost to Philly?

(No one)

Who's saying the Bengals are screwed because they are 1-2?

(No one)

I swear, no one sticks their head in the sand faster than the "it's only preseason" crowd.

Yes, it is only preseason. Forget the loss, forget the record, forget the opponent, you are absolutely right, none of that matters.

What matter is that the Bengals are exhibiting extremely poor fundamentals. Blocking...tackling...catching the ball...these are all things that are the same in both the preseason and the regular season. If it's two weeks before the season starts and your top two wideouts still can't catch balls that hit them in the hands, you have issues to address. And vague promises from the players that it will all be fixed, don't worry, are far from comforting. We've heard that line before. Marvin isn't buying it, and I'm not either.

[membengal]

Who's saying that the Bengals are screwed because the lost to Philly?

(No one)

Who's saying the Bengals are screwed because they are 1-2?

(No one)

I swear, no one sticks their head in the sand faster than the "it's only preseason" crowd.

Yes, it is only preseason. Forget the loss, forget the record, forget the opponent, you are absolutely right, none of that matters.

What matter is that the Bengals are exhibiting extremely poor fundamentals. Blocking...tackling...catching the ball...these are all things that are the same in both the preseason and the regular season. If it's two weeks before the season starts and your top two wideouts still can't catch balls that hit them in the hands, you have issues to address. And vague promises from the players that it will all be fixed, don't worry, are far from comforting. We've heard that line before. Marvin isn't buying it, and I'm not either.

Again, standing ovation from me. What joisey said.

Of course the final scores don't matter. It IS just the preseason. But the stuff that is germane to both pre and regular season has been missing from this team this go around...tackling, urgency, comprenhesion, awareness etc. etc. etc.

A professional who is "doing his job" on the field should not make these kind of mistakes, pre or regular season.

Btw, the last time I experienced a wth were they thinking moment quite like Friday night's as Owens was running free around a startled Bengals secondary was the Chagers/Niners Super Bowl. With two weeks to prepare, and the entire world knowing they had to stop Jerry Rice to have a chance, the Chargers seemed stunned that the 49ers would go right to Rice to start the festivities. At the time, one wondered how they could not have been prepared for that. I had the same feeling Friday night.

And, if you are wondering, I would have thought the Bengals might have given some consideration to the kind of coverage the Pats put on CJ to start the pre-season. Everyone knew a deep ball to CJ was coming, Pats did too, double teamed CJ, and picked it off. Now THERE is an example that might have been fun for the Bengals to follow.

[jbx182]

there is a stat about teams without a winning pre-season have never won a super bowl. teams with superior talent usually come through in the pre-season, because of said talent. the eagles showed us that. still a year away folks...

[HoosierCat]

still a year away folks...

Well, the way they're playing right now, they're not a year away, they're an eternity away.

But it is not an unrecoverable situation. Yet.

We are talking about fundamentals, like catching the ball, that they demonstrated they could do last year. At a very high level, against top competition. They may not be a Super Bowl team, but they can certainly do better than they did Friday.

Frankly, I think the Eagles loss could turn out to be a good thing. It's given Marvin the club he needed to knock some sense into the team, and he's using it. The situation reminds me a lot of the one the Pats were said to be in before we kicked their faces in in preseason last year. At the time, reports out of New England said that the team had been lazy in practices, just going through the motions, and Belichick was getting frustrated about their lackadasical attitude. Then we beat the crap out of them, and BB took that film, hung it around their necks, and shouted "I told you so!" in their faces a couple million times. And the team picked its butt up and got serious, and we all know how that turned out.

Let's just hope the Bengals respond is a similar fashion.

[derekshank]

What matter is that the Bengals are exhibiting extremely poor fundamentals. Blocking...tackling...catching the ball...these are all things that are the same in both the preseason and the regular season. If it's two weeks before the season starts and your top two wideouts still can't catch balls that hit them in the hands, you have issues to address. And vague promises from the players that it will all be fixed, don't worry, are far from comforting. We've heard that line before. Marvin isn't buying it, and I'm not either.

there is a stat about teams without a winning pre-season have never won a super bowl. teams with superior talent usually come through in the pre-season, because of said talent. the eagles showed us that. still a year away folks...

Not saying a disagree with either of these statements... although I'm getting a bit tired of reading "we're still a year away" from jbx182 in every single post he writes.

But I watched most of the first half of the Colts game, and it wasn't the addition to the loss column that was the problem. Their defense allowed Mike Anderson... someone with very little explosive ability, to score a 90-something yard TD run, and Jake Plummer looked very good. The Colts D looked flat out bad... similar to the Bengals defense.

Maybe that's not surprising, but what was were the mental errors on offense. Manning was getting the ball to the hands of his receivers, his timing was down... similar to what I've been hearing about Palmer (out of towner, can't watch the games), but there were dropped passes for 1st downs, failure to keep feet in bounds, and a fumble that rolled out of the endzone that would have been a very big play, putting them inside the 20 yard line.

So the Colts have exhibited many, if not all, of the same bad fundamentals that the Bengals have, but they are still considered a top 5 team in every power ranking I can find. The only point I am making is that neither of these teams are playing to their ability, but the sky is falling for only one of them. In fact, I haven't heard any national writers worry about the Bengals pre-season either. Apparently it's just us.

And as far as the talent level of the Bengals... we are lacking in a few areas... mostly the D-line and SS, but other than that, we have very excellent talent at most positions. To say that Chad Johnson's dropped passes are an insight to his talent level is absurd. He has some of the best hands in the NFL. The only thing it is an insight to is that the concentration level was pitiful and needs to be fixed.

Joisey... you are right that the quotes from the players are unsettling. I would rather hear quotes like Chad made after his debacle against Cleveland... but I remain steadfast that the Bengals will not get off to the same slow start as they have the past 2 years... and therefore will add at least one win to their season total. Joisey's quote "Marvin isn't buying it" says it all. He won't let this slide.

[oldschooler]

Chad Johnson and TJ had 168 catches between

the 2 of them last year. I`m not worried about

them catching the ball.

No the Bengals haven`t been impressive so far

during the Pre-season. But that`s what Pre-season is for

to work get ready for when it counts. Marvin will have

these guys ready and they will catch balls that are thrown

to them, tackle...do what it takes to get the W.

The Patriots didn`t have a winning Pre-Season last year.

Their head coach kept their starters in until late in the 3rd

quarter against US when they got beat 31-3 and they turned out fine.

I think the loss to the Eagles is a good thing. Like Marvin said

"quit talking" and just "do your job". That kind of ass beating opens eyes.

Maybe now they`ll stop believing all of the hype and realize that You don`t

just show up and be good. You have to work to be good.

Everyone needs to step away from the ledge and

keep both feet on the bandwagon ! This team is

going to be special.

[oldschooler]

Here is a site that broke down pre-season wins/losses

and how they affect the regular season.

This was the parting shot...

Preseason wins don't warrant a lot of joy among a team's fans, nor need preseason losses lead to anguished nights. There may be some hints given as to how the season will unfold, but there are clearly too many variables (from Marv Levy's disdain for preseason games to beloved handicapper angles like quarterback depth) to put much stock in preseason standings. From a PROTRADE standpoint, the better question may be "does a player's preseason performance have any bearing on his regular season numbers?".we'll save that for part II.

http://www.protrade.com/insight_auth06_article02.html

[cincyhokie]

I think we all know what this team can do and what it will do. It's loaded with talent on offense and young potential on defense. We saw last year what kind of numbers this team can put up. We all know that.

What I want to see is a FAST start, not blowing out teams like Dallas in week 8 after losing pitiful games to Cleveland 34-17 in week 5 dropping us to 1-4.

A fast start is something that this team has not done since 2001 and this preseason has not given much confidence in fans that there is going to be a fast start this year. Nobody is saying this team has no talent, they just have to start playing as a team Week 1, or Week 15 may not matter.

[bengalskyspy]

They've got a lot of work to do. They are not a playoff team yet. All the talk does not make a playoff team. All the potential does not make a playoff team. Hard work + talent + luck = playoff team.

We all believe they have the talent. Do they have the "hard work" and will they catch a break?

[LABengalsFan09]

The Colts played Denver with like 1 starter on defense playing in the game. Go to Colts.com and look at their list of players who were out for that game, Peyton and the offense still clicked, we did nothing right all night but clear a little room for Rudi...

[derekshank]

Peyton and the offense still clicked,

We must have been watching different games. Are you sure you weren't watching a rerun of the playoff game against Denver last year? Because the game I watched, that offense was doing anything but click.

[Kazkal]

I understand that joisey but to abandon your team just because preseason isen't going well is down right stupid,some of you guys may hate the browns and their fans but they are loyal no matter what...they've had 2 playoffs in last 14 years but have had almost as many losing seasons as us....they had their team disappear but does that change their faith for their team? we need postive energy from bengal fans so the team can feed off it on home games.

[DontPushMe]

Who's saying that the Bengals are screwed because the lost to Philly?

(No one)

Who's saying the Bengals are screwed because they are 1-2?

(No one)

I swear, no one sticks their head in the sand faster than the "it's only preseason" crowd.

Yes, it is only preseason. Forget the loss, forget the record, forget the opponent, you are absolutely right, none of that matters.

What matter is that the Bengals are exhibiting extremely poor fundamentals. Blocking...tackling...catching the ball...these are all things that are the same in both the preseason and the regular season. If it's two weeks before the season starts and your top two wideouts still can't catch balls that hit them in the hands, you have issues to address. And vague promises from the players that it will all be fixed, don't worry, are far from comforting. We've heard that line before. Marvin isn't buying it, and I'm not either.

Thank you. So funny how these fools are acting like everything that looks terrible doesnt matter because its preseason. Our record doesnt matter, but the fact that the team looks terrible does matter. Dont kid yourself.

[Kazkal]

they just need to hire dawkins to show the team how to tackle O_o

[Ox]

they just need to hire dawkins to show the team how to tackle O_o

Dude should be in the WWE. Hell of a suplex.

As far as panicking, I think we are far from it. Yes it is something to brew over, but AGAIN, we have lost to the TWO superbowl teams. They are not exactly slackers.

[Kazkal]

/is selling rust remover

Only 9.99 a botel and I pormise all rust will be removed by the reg season

[San Antonio Bengal]

Dude should be in the WWE. Hell of a suplex.

And it was a German suplex at that!

[HoosierCat]

I understand that joisey but to abandon your team just because preseason isen't going well is down right stupid,

I'm not abandoning the team. Most of the problems they have are fixable. But...they are not just going to fix themselves. Tinkerbell is not going to fly down from Neverland, sprinkle some pixie dust, and make everything "click." The hole does not dig itself, the wall does not paint itself, and the football does not catch itself. As Marvin himself said, it's time to quit talking, and start playing. :player:

[Stripes]

there is a stat about teams without a winning pre-season have never won a super bowl. teams with superior talent usually come through in the pre-season, because of said talent. the eagles showed us that. still a year away folks...

The 2004 Patriots went 1-3 in the preseason. They just locked up a dynasty.

[HairOnFire]

Thank you. So funny how these fools are acting like everything that looks terrible doesnt matter because its preseason. Our record doesnt matter, but the fact that the team looks terrible does matter. Dont kid yourself.

Chris Perry looked like crap against the Eagles. Couldn't gain a yard rushing, flat out dropped one of the easiest balls of the night, and couldn't make another grab because he misjudged the ball. Got a nice long look during much of the game and was terrible on all but one or two plays.

Wanna make an excuse for him? Wanna tell me his performance didn't matter? Wanna tell me it was only preseason and he'll get better? Well you can't because you wrote the stupid post that appears above.

Don't kid yourself.

[HairOnFire]

still a year away folks...

Well, the way they're playing right now, they're not a year away, they're an eternity away.

But it is not an unrecoverable situation. Yet.

Hey Joisey, what's the view like from both sides of the fence?

[Kazkal]

/nods at joisey

[HoosierCat]

still a year away folks...

Well, the way they're playing right now, they're not a year away, they're an eternity away.

But it is not an unrecoverable situation. Yet.

Hey Joisey, what's the view like from both sides of the fence?

Same as it ever was: 8-8. Which is precisely where Marvin suggested they were headed in his comments yesterday if they don't pull their heads out of their a**es.