brooklyn_bengalfan Posted August 1, 2005 Report Posted August 1, 2005 Just noticed this little unfortunate tidbit in the detials. Hope this isn't too big a setback...Injury reportRunning back Chris Perry, after practicing twice Friday, was held out again on Sunday. He pulled a groin muscle. (Emphasis mine)http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/art...0321/1066/rss07 Quote
The_Next_Big_Thing Posted August 1, 2005 Report Posted August 1, 2005 Who knew a sports hernia could turn into such a mess? Quote
HoosierCat Posted August 1, 2005 Report Posted August 1, 2005 Per Curnutte's latest audio report on his blog, Perry was back in practice this a.m. Quote
redsbengalsbucks Posted August 1, 2005 Report Posted August 1, 2005 Per Curnutte's latest audio report on his blog, Perry was back in practice this a.m. That's good to hear RUDI needs a decent backup so he doesn't have to carry all the load this year too. Quote
Ickey44 Posted August 1, 2005 Report Posted August 1, 2005 Actually, if Perry shows he can be a starter, I see Rudi as trade bate. Rudi's going into his fifth year, Perry's going into his second. Everyone knows the younger at RB, the better. I love Rudi to death, but I think that's what will happen if Perry shows starting potential. Plus, Perry's an everydown back, Rudi still needs to work on his pass catching skills. Quote
BengalszoneBilly Posted August 1, 2005 Report Posted August 1, 2005 Actually, if Perry shows he can be a starter, I see Rudi as trade bate. Rudi's going into his fifth year, Perry's going into his second. Everyone knows the younger at RB, the better. I love Rudi to death, but I think that's what will happen if Perry shows starting potential. Plus, Perry's an everydown back, Rudi still needs to work on his pass catching skills. Why don't we wait until Perry shows us just what he can really do when he is healed up before we start prognosticating about what we're going to do with Rudi down the road. Right now, it looks as though we may need him. Time will tell, eh? Quote
Ickey44 Posted August 1, 2005 Report Posted August 1, 2005 Oops, I meant to post that in the other Chris Perry thread. I don't know how I got in here with that. Quote
ShulaSteakhouse Posted August 1, 2005 Report Posted August 1, 2005 Actually, if Perry shows he can be a starter, I see Rudi as trade bate. Rudi's going into his fifth year, Perry's going into his second. Everyone knows the younger at RB, the better. I love Rudi to death, but I think that's what will happen if Perry shows starting potential. Plus, Perry's an everydown back, Rudi still needs to work on his pass catching skills.Dude cmon, tell me how a guy who had more carries than anyone in Bengals' history along with more yards in a season is not an "every down back?"Rewind your tapes to '03 and you'll see Rudi catching passes for big yards at times, and breaking 50+ yard runs. He'll do it again and was just fine last year.It cracks me up that people think Perry can even hold Rudi's jock at this point.I have seen nothing from Perry other than being yet another Michigan RB bust, for whatever reason it's just the same old thing.He'll struggle to beat out Watson and Wilson this year even if he does get healthy at this rate.Rudi will be here as long as he keeps producing like he has the last two seasons.Rudi is only what, 26? Cmon people give Rudi some more respect - hopefully y'all will have to after he leads us to the playoffs this year and squelches the haters.You will see what I mean, every year he exceeds expectations and is the kind of blue collar, bruising, fundamentally sound RB this town should embrace.Just because he isn't a big, flashy 4.3 forty back doesn't mean he isn't a top 5 NFL RB - which he is.It's amazing to me people still don't think that's good enough for the Bengals. Quote
brooklyn_bengalfan Posted August 1, 2005 Author Report Posted August 1, 2005 I wasn't trying to start ANOTHER Perry Vs. Rudi thread I just want both of them out there healthy. Sounds like Chris practiced this morning and looked good. Glad to hear it -- hope he keeps recovering. Quote
Ickey44 Posted August 1, 2005 Report Posted August 1, 2005 Dude, where exactly did you read that I think he's not worthy to be a Bengal? I stated what I though would happen if Perry showed he could be a starter. Read the post before you go off on a needless tangent. Quote
alleycat Posted August 2, 2005 Report Posted August 2, 2005 Interesting article in the NY Times about sports hernias:http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/sports/AP-...ts-Hernias.html Quote
GROIIIDayton Posted August 2, 2005 Report Posted August 2, 2005 How to ID, Treat Sports Hernias Disputed Quote
Kazkal Posted August 2, 2005 Report Posted August 2, 2005 Actually, if Perry shows he can be a starter, I see Rudi as trade bate. Rudi's going into his fifth year, Perry's going into his second. Everyone knows the younger at RB, the better. I love Rudi to death, but I think that's what will happen if Perry shows starting potential. Plus, Perry's an everydown back, Rudi still needs to work on his pass catching skills. Yes rudi as trade bate....then his signing bonus woulden't effect us @ all either it would just screw us in the ass Quote
andybren Posted August 2, 2005 Report Posted August 2, 2005 Dude, where exactly did you read that I think he's not worthy to be a Bengal? I stated what I though would happen if Perry showed he could be a starter. Read the post before you go off on a needless tangent. That wasn't a needless tangent. When you suggest that we could hypothetically trade/cut/get-rid-of our starting, Pro Bowl running back in favor of a second-year player with zero pro starts, you open the door to all sorts of issues. Quite frankly, I think SSH's response was very restrained.Yes, Perry could prove to be a starting, every down back. He could end up being the next Emmitt Smith. Or it could be he's the next Ickey Woods or KiJana Carter. Either way, I can't imagine a situation where Rudi becomes disposable in the next 3-4 years. I say Rudi Johnson should stay in Cincinnati as long as Jerome Bettis has stayed in Pittsburgh. Here's hoping Perry gets/stays healthy and can practice two days in a row. Quote
Kazkal Posted August 2, 2005 Report Posted August 2, 2005 Even if rudi isen't a top 10 back if he can produce 1400+yards with 4.0 everyear and not get hurt i'd be quite happy...it's better then having guy who avg's 5.0 but misses 5-10 games Quote
Ickey44 Posted August 2, 2005 Report Posted August 2, 2005 Dude, where exactly did you read that I think he's not worthy to be a Bengal? I stated what I though would happen if Perry showed he could be a starter. Read the post before you go off on a needless tangent.That wasn't a needless tangent. When you suggest that we could hypothetically trade/cut/get-rid-of our starting, Pro Bowl running back in favor of a second-year player with zero pro starts, you open the door to all sorts of issues. Quite frankly, I think SSH's response was very restrained.Yes, Perry could prove to be a starting, every down back. He could end up being the next Emmitt Smith. Or it could be he's the next Ickey Woods or KiJana Carter. Either way, I can't imagine a situation where Rudi becomes disposable in the next 3-4 years. I say Rudi Johnson should stay in Cincinnati as long as Jerome Bettis has stayed in Pittsburgh. Here's hoping Perry gets/stays healthy and can practice two days in a row. Well, it was a needless tangent to an honest opinion. But, anyway......I hope we're able to keep both of them as well. I just have a hard time seeing the Bengals keeping two high paid backs. One way or the other, I don't think they'll both be here for the duration of their contracts. If Perry stays injury prone, I don't think he's here next year. On the flip side, if he shows he can play just as well, if not better than Rudi, I think they'll either cut him or trade him. This is just my opinion on what the Bengals will do, NOT WHAT I WANT TO HAPPEN. Quote
DontPushMe Posted August 2, 2005 Report Posted August 2, 2005 Just because he isn't a big, flashy 4.3 forty back doesn't mean he isn't a top 5 NFL RB - which he is. I ask this every time, and no one ever answers it, but please list your top 5 NFL rbs. I want to see who you leave out in your homer-like attempt to include RJ. Quote
LABengalsFan09 Posted August 2, 2005 Report Posted August 2, 2005 I just want to know how you could rank someone with 2 pro carries over someone who holds the team rushing record who used to belong to a HOF caliber player?Rudi is better than every RB in the past 2 drafts at least.... Quote
Brownflushitdown Posted August 2, 2005 Report Posted August 2, 2005 top 5 RB:1. LaDainian Tomlinson2. Corey Dillon3. Shaun Alexander4. Curtis Martin5. Edgerrin James6. Tiki Barber7. Clinton Portis8. Priest Holmes9. Jamal Lewis10. Willis McGahee11. Rudi JohnsonI can't even get him into my ton ten, there is no way he could break into anyone's top five. I bet Parry will be at least in my top ten by the begining of next season and hopefully by the trade deadline so we can get some defensive help for our run to the playoffs. Quote
Stripes Posted August 2, 2005 Report Posted August 2, 2005 Just because he isn't a big, flashy 4.3 forty back doesn't mean he isn't a top 5 NFL RBÂ - which he is.I ask this every time, and no one ever answers it, but please list your top 5 NFL rbs. I want to see who you leave out in your homer-like attempt to include RJ. Well, I wouldn't rank RJ in the top 5, but certainly in the top 10. I aslo think the top 5 isn't all that rediculous. I wouldn't be surprised to see these rankings:1.) Tomlinson2.) Holmes3.) Alexander4.) Lewis5.) James6.) Green7.) Dillon8.) Rudi9.) Martin (who knows how he will play after last year)10.) BarberSure I may have forgotten a big name, but I do know that Chris Perry has no place on this list as of yet. Quote
ShulaSteakhouse Posted August 2, 2005 Report Posted August 2, 2005 Actually, if Perry shows he can be a starter, I see Rudi as trade bate. Rudi's going into his fifth year, Perry's going into his second. Everyone knows the younger at RB, the betterDude, where exactly did you read that I think he's not worthy to be a Bengal? I stated what I though would happen if Perry showed he could be a starter. Read the post before you go off on a needless tangent.I understand, but I guess I just get upset when people just disregard Rudi breaking DILLON'S record and all last year, after doing what he did in '03, what more do people want?Also how do you figure Perry will even get the chance to be a starter? I just don't see how that will be remotely possible when they just signed Rudi to a big contract - makes no sense at all, Perry can't stay healthy on top of the fact he won't get nearly enough carries and showed us nothing in preseason and early last year at all.Also about being younger, apparently "just to get younger" at RB - try telling that to Curtis Martin, Marshall Faulk, Jerome Bettis, Corey Dillon, Emmitt Smith, et al...., (not so much last year for Bettis and Smith but many years prior when they were still considered "old vets.")Rudi is right up there in that class now, you don't just trade a guy like that for a guy like Perry.Marvin drafted Perry because he believes in quality depth at every position - guys with high ceilings who are worth higher draft picks who can step-in and take over potentially without sacrificing your whole season over one player when they get hurt. That's his way of managing a roster properly.Perry wasn't drafted to replace Rudi - I just don't see why people can't get that through their heads! Quote
ShulaSteakhouse Posted August 2, 2005 Report Posted August 2, 2005 Just because he isn't a big, flashy 4.3 forty back doesn't mean he isn't a top 5 NFL RBÂ - which he is.I ask this every time, and no one ever answers it, but please list your top 5 NFL rbs. I want to see who you leave out in your homer-like attempt to include RJ. Well, I wouldn't rank RJ in the top 5, but certainly in the top 10. I aslo think the top 5 isn't all that rediculous. I wouldn't be surprised to see these rankings:1.) Tomlinson2.) Holmes3.) Alexander4.) Lewis5.) James6.) Green7.) Dillon8.) Rudi9.) Martin (who knows how he will play after last year)10.) BarberSure I may have forgotten a big name, but I do know that Chris Perry has no place on this list as of yet. Rudi will finish in the top 5 this year - I consider him a top 5 caliber back.That's you who is taking it so literally as to think Dillon and even an oft-injured and in-decline Lewis, James, Holmes, Dillon and Green will continue to put up the #'s they are - which Rudi is not far-off of. I venture two of the above at least will have trouble keeping up with Rudi's younger legs and production next year.Also Rudi flat beat-out Dillon in '03, and if Rudi played for the Patriots now he'd out-produce Dillon in that system.I am basing this on his value - if you want to nit pick over one or two spots from a year ago fine - but I answered your post with a legitimate response.Now we shall see how things play out and I'll bring this up again later in the season if necessary! Some of you people sure aren't the best Bengals fans that's for sure, go back to your fantasy football rankings since that's all you seem to know! :player: Quote
JPW Posted August 2, 2005 Report Posted August 2, 2005 Dayton Daily News ...BENGALS NOTESRB Perry still on, off fieldBy Chick LudwigDayton Daily NewsGEORGETOWN, KY. |After two days off, Perry was back on the field Monday, showing good quickness on runs inside and outside."I expect Chris to perform as a running back in our offense," head coach Marvin Lewis said. "Chris has had an opportunity to practice only three of the six times because of his (abdominal) strain, but when he is out there and is able to move like he can, he is what we expect." ... It looks like the Bengals will have two good running backs this year.Guess what ...This is not a problem ...... Quote
DesperateDerelict Posted August 2, 2005 Report Posted August 2, 2005 PLEASE DON'T START THIS AGAIN . . . ENOUGH OF THIS 2-STEP & RUDENESS CRAP! Quote
DontPushMe Posted August 2, 2005 Report Posted August 2, 2005 Just because he isn't a big, flashy 4.3 forty back doesn't mean he isn't a top 5 NFL RBÂ - which he is.I ask this every time, and no one ever answers it, but please list your top 5 NFL rbs. I want to see who you leave out in your homer-like attempt to include RJ. Well, I wouldn't rank RJ in the top 5, but certainly in the top 10. I aslo think the top 5 isn't all that rediculous. I wouldn't be surprised to see these rankings:1.) Tomlinson2.) Holmes3.) Alexander4.) Lewis5.) James6.) Green7.) Dillon8.) Rudi9.) Martin (who knows how he will play after last year)10.) BarberSure I may have forgotten a big name, but I do know that Chris Perry has no place on this list as of yet. Rudi will finish in the top 5 this year - I consider him a top 5 caliber back.That's you who is taking it so literally as to think Dillon and even an oft-injured and in-decline Lewis, James, Holmes, Dillon and Green will continue to put up the #'s they are - which Rudi is not far-off of. I venture two of the above at least will have trouble keeping up with Rudi's younger legs and production next year.Also Rudi flat beat-out Dillon in '03, and if Rudi played for the Patriots now he'd out-produce Dillon in that system.I am basing this on his value - if you want to nit pick over one or two spots from a year ago fine - but I answered your post with a legitimate response.Now we shall see how things play out and I'll bring this up again later in the season if necessary! Some of you people sure aren't the best Bengals fans that's for sure, go back to your fantasy football rankings since that's all you seem to know! :player: Nice job not answering the question. Please, your top 5 RBs. Let me see them.Rudi is better than every RB in the past 2 drafts at least....I disagree. I'd take Kevin Jones and maybe even Julies Jones over RJ anyday. Ronnie Brown, Benson, and C. Williams also have the potential to be better than him. Quote
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