walzav29 Posted June 20, 2005 Report Share Posted June 20, 2005 With all of the injuries to this guy, I am not encouraged. I think he may be a bust. Does anyone have any faith in this guy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyline Posted June 20, 2005 Report Share Posted June 20, 2005 It's hard to say, becuse none of us can say for sure how hard he is working to overcome the injuries.I still have high hopes for him. We all know he has the talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBin2k7 Posted June 20, 2005 Report Share Posted June 20, 2005 I don't know how you call a 4th round draft pick a bust. Lets see him get on the field first. By that same criteria, Chris Perry would be an even bigger bust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schweinhart Posted June 20, 2005 Report Share Posted June 20, 2005 Hard to call any Day 2 pick a bust really. Plus Askew came out a year early and was pretty much considered a project from the start (But then again the same applies for Jumpy Jr.)It is hard to tell about a player's drive to play when they're injured, especially a rook or 2nd year player who has yet to show himself on Sundays. Until Askew gets on the field, though, I'll keeping weighing his desire to play against his paycheck.And the same goes for Perry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
membengal Posted June 20, 2005 Report Share Posted June 20, 2005 I do not think he is a bust. Crikey, he has not even played yet. Perhaps a little chilling would be in order.Plus, how many interior D-lineman make huge impacts in their first few years in the NFL? What was Tony Siragusa's first few years like? Or Sam Adams? Or Pat Williams? I don't remember hearing much about those kind of guys until years had passed. It seems to me playing the interior of the D-line well takes some time and experience to go with toughness.I think any grading of Askew before he sees the field for a few years is way premature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cHaD711Johnson Posted June 20, 2005 Report Share Posted June 20, 2005 He's definitely not a bust..He wasn't expected to come in and produce last year first of all, most thought that he was one year away from that..and he was a 4th round pick so I wouldn't be that disappointed..He was basically drafted on potential Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spain Posted June 20, 2005 Report Share Posted June 20, 2005 He is a bust, this guys riding IR all he can so he can get his check as long as posible. Ive heard some several posters on different sites about him. Normally that means nothing but if all you here is I saw Askew at pick up basket ball game and he is oughta shape. I saw Askew at the races man is he fat. etc. You start to wonder if the guy is mature enough to train so he doesnt get hurt. This guy could be cut this year Marvin hates imjured playasIMHO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Next_Big_Thing Posted June 20, 2005 Report Share Posted June 20, 2005 He is a bust, this guys riding IR all he can so he can get his check as long as posible. Ive heard some several posters on different sites about him. Normally that means nothing but if all you here is I saw Askew at pick up basket ball game and he is oughta shape. I saw Askew at the races man is he fat. etc. You start to wonder if the guy is mature enough to train so he doesnt get hurt. This guy could be cut this year Marvin hates imjured playasIMHOYou saw him at the races all the way from Spain where you don't speak f**king English? Give me a break. Linemen are fat, or at least they look it. Often what you perceive as fat is muscle on a big body shape.Askew is not a bust. He's had injury problems. He'll get to work and get healthy.Marvin hates injured players huh? Where's your evidence? You are full of crap. He kept TJ Houshmanzadeh a full year on the IR and made him his #2 receiver when Warrick went down. He's behind Chris Perry who was injured all of last year. You don't know s**t about the Bengals. Go root for the Browns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Next_Big_Thing Posted June 20, 2005 Report Share Posted June 20, 2005 Yeah, looking at Askew standing next to Willie Anderson, he sure looks "fat". Lying asshat.http://cmsimg.enquirer.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/...axH=380Border=0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walshfan Posted June 20, 2005 Report Share Posted June 20, 2005 Looking at Askew next to Willie Anderson leads me to believe they're BOTH fat..Aside from that it is true about linemen having fat over muscle....I still think Askew can be a productive lineman in the future.. He's young and needs more time to develope.. some guys mature quicker than others and that's the case with Geathers..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobcat Bengal Posted June 20, 2005 Report Share Posted June 20, 2005 (sigh) Ok, using that school of logic, Chris Perry and Ki-Jana Carter are busts.All rookies who don't burst their way to a starting spot on the D-Line are busts.Who cares if he graduated a year early right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPW Posted June 20, 2005 Report Share Posted June 20, 2005 It is way too early to be even thinking about this ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DontPushMe Posted June 20, 2005 Report Share Posted June 20, 2005 He is a bust, this guys riding IR all he can so he can get his check as long as posible. Ive heard some several posters on different sites about him. Normally that means nothing but if all you here is I saw Askew at pick up basket ball game and he is oughta shape. I saw Askew at the races man is he fat. etc. You start to wonder if the guy is mature enough to train so he doesnt get hurt. This guy could be cut this year Marvin hates imjured playasIMHOYou saw him at the races all the way from Spain where you don't speak f**king English? Give me a break. Linemen are fat, or at least they look it. Often what you perceive as fat is muscle on a big body shape.Askew is not a bust. He's had injury problems. He'll get to work and get healthy.Marvin hates injured players huh? Where's your evidence? You are full of crap. He kept TJ Houshmanzadeh a full year on the IR and made him his #2 receiver when Warrick went down. He's behind Chris Perry who was injured all of last year. You don't know s**t about the Bengals. Go root for the Browns. did you read his post? he didnt say that he saw him at a race, he said he has seen people post saying they saw that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalPappaw Posted June 20, 2005 Report Share Posted June 20, 2005 He can NOT be a bust until he plays -- he was drafted as a "developmental project". I've been an Askew critic because of some attitude /motivation things I noticed -- but I would NOT call him a bust until he shows he can't play. Marvin and his scouts saw something they liked in Askew -- IF they cut him then I'd say he was a bust. Give him time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted June 20, 2005 Report Share Posted June 20, 2005 Let's keep it friendly, folks. Yes, there have been various rumors about Askew being "soft" and unmotivated, and IMHO these should be taken with the same Gibralter-sized piece of salt as any other internet football rumor. I do think that the bengals' interest in Wright does not bode well for Matthais. I don't see the team chewing up two defensive line roster spots on projects. I also think they're unlikely to get Wright (if they even choose to bid) and that Askew will be expected to show something in 2005-06. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Next_Big_Thing Posted June 20, 2005 Report Share Posted June 20, 2005 He is a bust, this guys riding IR all he can so he can get his check as long as posible. Ive heard some several posters on different sites about him. Normally that means nothing but if all you here is I saw Askew at pick up basket ball game and he is oughta shape. I saw Askew at the races man is he fat. etc. You start to wonder if the guy is mature enough to train so he doesnt get hurt. This guy could be cut this year Marvin hates imjured playasIMHOYou saw him at the races all the way from Spain where you don't speak f**king English? Give me a break. Linemen are fat, or at least they look it. Often what you perceive as fat is muscle on a big body shape.Askew is not a bust. He's had injury problems. He'll get to work and get healthy.Marvin hates injured players huh? Where's your evidence? You are full of crap. He kept TJ Houshmanzadeh a full year on the IR and made him his #2 receiver when Warrick went down. He's behind Chris Perry who was injured all of last year. You don't know s**t about the Bengals. Go root for the Browns. did you read his post? he didnt say that he saw him at a race, he said he has seen people post saying they saw that... Well, without using QUOTES, or proper sentences, I didn't see that in his post. He wrote that he heard others say they saw him at a pickup basketball game and he was fat and that HE saw him at the races. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShulaSteakhouse Posted June 20, 2005 Report Share Posted June 20, 2005 Well, without using QUOTES, or proper sentences, I didn't see that in his post. He wrote that he heard others say they saw him at a pickup basketball game and he was fat and that HE saw him at the races.Are these the same "people" that reported P-Dub was limping in a pickup basketball game and knocking over cones in practice? There are some European spies out there apparently watching injured Bengals players in their spare time.If Mathias is out of shape or soft it probably has something to do with the fact he hasn't been able to walk normally much for the last year and a half.For the same reasons it's why I don't expect much out of Chris Perry this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted June 20, 2005 Report Share Posted June 20, 2005 He's not a bust nor is Chris perry stop h8ing and let our boys get healthy and "play" before judging them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiLBurn Posted June 20, 2005 Report Share Posted June 20, 2005 knocking over cones in practice? I am the one who posted about Warrick knocking over the cones at practice. I was sitting at the 50 yard line. 5th row back. He was less than 30 feet from me. It happened at the Saturday open house. I'm guessing some of the other 11,000 plus people that were there might have noticed it as well.If you don't believe me, fine. I will not be losing any sleep over it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiLBurn Posted June 20, 2005 Report Share Posted June 20, 2005 He is a bust, this guys riding IR all he can so he can get his check as long as posible. Ive heard some several posters on different sites about him. Normally that means nothing but if all you here is I saw Askew at pick up basket ball game and he is oughta shape. I saw Askew at the races man is he fat. etc. You start to wonder if the guy is mature enough to train so he doesnt get hurt. This guy could be cut this year Marvin hates imjured playasIMHOYou saw him at the races all the way from Spain where you don't speak f**king English? Give me a break. Linemen are fat, or at least they look it. Often what you perceive as fat is muscle on a big body shape.Askew is not a bust. He's had injury problems. He'll get to work and get healthy.Marvin hates injured players huh? Where's your evidence? You are full of crap. He kept TJ Houshmanzadeh a full year on the IR and made him his #2 receiver when Warrick went down. He's behind Chris Perry who was injured all of last year. You don't know s**t about the Bengals. Go root for the Browns. Dude, relax...You sound like you would be a perfect fit over at the Insiders board. Quick to fire a few rounds into other posters. English is not this guys native tongue. I'd like to see you do better if you were to post on a foreign message board.Not trying to start a pissing match either, I get my fill of those over at the aforementioned website. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spain Posted June 20, 2005 Report Share Posted June 20, 2005 Unfortunately these internet rumors are there and I have seen many different post about this guy. Now if their true then it would make sense to me why they might draft sumplemental. Good point Kil Burn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whur CHad At? Posted June 20, 2005 Report Share Posted June 20, 2005 Only seen him play a little, way to early to be making judgment calls Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted June 20, 2005 Report Share Posted June 20, 2005 No way you can call him a bust yet... Boring thread... Next...WHODEY !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairOnFire Posted June 21, 2005 Report Share Posted June 21, 2005 Coming soon: Herana Diaz-Jones hasn't played a regular season down yet. Could he be bustin' hard? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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