Shipley released

[ArmyBengal]

There was talk they were considering carrying 7 WR's from what was being discussed on the news last night, but I don't think they will.

The last cut will be tough, but I think it's Whalen as well.

[derekshank]

There was talk they were considering carrying 7 WR's from what was being discussed on the news last night, but I don't think they will.

The last cut will be tough, but I think it's Whalen as well.

Agreed. But Whalen has a decent shot of being a practice squad player. Shipley? Not so much.

[ArmyBengal]

There was talk they were considering carrying 7 WR's from what was being discussed on the news last night, but I don't think they will.

The last cut will be tough, but I think it's Whalen as well.

Agreed. But Whalen has a decent shot of being a practice squad player.

The Colts and one Mr. Luck probably wouldn't mind seeing a horseshoe on his helmet.

He would be right in the mix there.

[Earendil]

Green, Tate, Binns, Sanu, Hawkins, Jones, and Whalen are all way ahead of him right now.

That's a hell of a lot of talent at WR...

[volcom69]

Green, Tate, Binns, Sanu, Hawkins, Jones, and Whalen are all way ahead of him right now.

That's a hell of a lot of talent at WR...

I think so too! I hope Dalton gets these guys involved a lot. I'm excited about these guys sad about Shipley but excited about the WR unit. Now give Marvin Jones reps with the starters!

[UK Bengal]

I think it just comes down to the numbers situation and Shipley coming off his big injury and not performing. The bengals have done the nicest thing they could by giving him a chance to catch on to another team.

It's a shame to see him go but we are loaded at WR and the injury just put him out of the running.

[derekshank]

I'm not ready to say the Bengals are loaded at the WR position. I think they have phenomenal depth... but without a true #2 WR, I'm underwhelmed.

I'm not pessimistic about it, because I think a WR by committee approach can work. I think Gruden will make the most of these guys and maximize their strengths while minimizing their weaknesses - but I can't say that any of the WRs aside from Green have impressed me enough to get very excited.

I just hope that Gresham and the committee can find a way to make teams pay for double teaming Green.

[volcom69]

I'm not ready to say the Bengals are loaded at the WR position. I think they have phenomenal depth... but without a true #2 WR, I'm underwhelmed.

I'm not pessimistic about it, because I think a WR by committee approach can work. I think Gruden will make the most of these guys and maximize their strengths while minimizing their weaknesses - but I can't say that any of the WRs aside from Green have impressed me enough to get very excited.

I just hope that Gresham and the committee can find a way to make teams pay for double teaming Green.

That's what Lap was saying last night, when Gresham went out Dalton was focusing on Green and was hoping a true number 2 receiver would step up but they didn't. I just hope Dalton continues to get other guys involved so we can see if there is a true number 2.

[combatbengal]

He's going to get picked up by another team and then excel! Watch and see!!

[COB]

Can't stay healthy on the Bengals, gtfo. He had a head injury and a knee injury in successive seasons. And that was when he was young. I liked him a lot, but my guess would be he missed half the games while he was here. I'm not sure how any team can deal with that.

He missed 1 game in 2010. Thats it, 1. So A guy tears his acl 1 time playing football and you cant figure out how any team could deal with that? Tate suffered 2 knee injuries his rookie year as well, better bail on him. Until one of the other wideouts can prove they are capable of 52 catches as a 3rd wideout and primary 3rd down threat, I see this as a short sighted move. Hell, Tate has 1 extra season, 11 more starts, and about 1/3rd the catches.

I personally will not turn on a guy. And I hope he goes on to be second in the nfl in recieving(behind green) for the next 5 years. Good player, good man.

In two full seasons he played in 17 games. Two of those games he had to leave due to injury, so let's give him a half game in those games. So in reality he played 16 out of 32 games. And after his concussion in year 1 he was clearly not as good as before it.

That gives him 16 full games in two seasons, our number 2 receiver when we've got a new OC, and a new quarterback, and a new number 1 receiver, and we're playing for division titles and playoffs, maybe a conference championship game, and maybe, just maybe, a Super Bowl. Now is not the time to nurse this guy along. We need football players on the field. This isn't a 6-8 team where we have the luxury of waiting on Shipley. I'm not turning on him, I just don't want to pretend he's physically capable of playing in the NFL because he's clearly not.

Someone remarked that we kept Frostee or some other d lineman when they kept getting hurt. I just think there is a difference between a depth D-lineman, who can be IR'd and adequately replaced by another depth D-lineman versus a number 2 receiver, where all the time is put in early in the year developing timing with the QB and we need him out there to build this very good offense we're building. Jordan Shipley is not some big lug that is out there to slug it out in the trenches.

[wpeldios]

Can't stay healthy on the Bengals, gtfo. He had a head injury and a knee injury in successive seasons. And that was when he was young. I liked him a lot, but my guess would be he missed half the games while he was here. I'm not sure how any team can deal with that.

He missed 1 game in 2010. Thats it, 1. So A guy tears his acl 1 time playing football and you cant figure out how any team could deal with that? Tate suffered 2 knee injuries his rookie year as well, better bail on him. Until one of the other wideouts can prove they are capable of 52 catches as a 3rd wideout and primary 3rd down threat, I see this as a short sighted move. Hell, Tate has 1 extra season, 11 more starts, and about 1/3rd the catches.

I personally will not turn on a guy. And I hope he goes on to be second in the nfl in recieving(behind green) for the next 5 years. Good player, good man.

In two full seasons he played in 17 games. Two of those games he had to leave due to injury, so let's give him a half game in those games. So in reality he played 16 out of 32 games. And after his concussion in year 1 he was clearly not as good as before it.

That gives him 16 full games in two seasons, our number 2 receiver when we've got a new OC, and a new quarterback, and a new number 1 receiver, and we're playing for division titles and playoffs, maybe a conference championship game, and maybe, just maybe, a Super Bowl. Now is not the time to nurse this guy along. We need football players on the field. This isn't a 6-8 team where we have the luxury of waiting on Shipley. I'm not turning on him, I just don't want to pretend he's physically capable of playing in the NFL because he's clearly not.

Someone remarked that we kept Frostee or some other d lineman when they kept getting hurt. I just think there is a difference between a depth D-lineman, who can be IR'd and adequately replaced by another depth D-lineman versus a number 2 receiver, where all the time is put in early in the year developing timing with the QB and we need him out there to build this very good offense we're building. Jordan Shipley is not some big lug that is out there to slug it out in the trenches.

Wasnt as good after the concussion as before it? In the 4 games before he averaged 3.75 catches for 47.5 yards. The first four games after the injury for comparisons sake 3.75 catches for 54.75 yards. I do understand why the bengals cut him. But I dont think it was the right move, and I dont see any of our options other than Green and Sanu being a guy who can get 52 catches. Particularly as a 3rd wideout and primary 3rd down option. And I really dont understand the immediate hatred for someone who has done nothing wrong for this team except have his knee blown up. Also, the concussion took place on the bengals last offensive play of the game. May have been a 2 point conversion attempt if I remember correctly.

[ct_bengal]

Am I the only one thinking this or is shipley not that good. He's small and injury prone. The only two things I remember about shipley - his td in atlanta, and his dropped td against pittsburgh. Hawkins is a more than adequate replacement. I think his value is being overstated a bit...

[Earendil]

I'm not ready to say the Bengals are loaded at the WR position. I think they have phenomenal depth... but without a true #2 WR, I'm underwhelmed.

I'm not pessimistic about it, because I think a WR by committee approach can work. I think Gruden will make the most of these guys and maximize their strengths while minimizing their weaknesses - but I can't say that any of the WRs aside from Green have impressed me enough to get very excited.

I just hope that Gresham and the committee can find a way to make teams pay for double teaming Green.

That's why I said it was a lot of talent, not a lot of production.

[redsbengalsbucks]

Am I the only one thinking this or is shipley not that good. He's small and injury prone. The only two things I remember about shipley - his td in atlanta, and his dropped td against pittsburgh. Hawkins is a more than adequate replacement. I think his value is being overstated a bit...

I won't go that far, IMO Shipley was just a victim of timing. If he stays healthy last season he becomes the clear #2WR. As of now he is not in the top 6 in the depth chart.

I have been very pleased with the WR's looking to become #2-6. So far good route running, great hands and solid downfield blocking. Binns and Tate look very good, Jones is progressing nicely and Sanu has the most potential in the red zone as any of the WR's not named Green.

As long as Gresham and Lee can contribute some numbers from the TE position, I have no problem letting Shipley hook on with another team, just hope we don't play him twice a season.

[ct_bengal]

Am I the only one thinking this or is shipley not that good. He's small and injury prone. The only two things I remember about shipley - his td in atlanta, and his dropped td against pittsburgh. Hawkins is a more than adequate replacement. I think his value is being overstated a bit.

I won't go that far, IMO Shipley was just a victim of timing. If he stays healthy last season he becomes the clear #2WR.

I don't understand this logic of guaranteeing shipley would have been a #2 WR had he played last year - for all we know shipley could have done diddly poo. Let's not forget his 600 yd 3 td season came during a 4-12 meltdown where the bengals were playing alot of catchup. I'm not saying he was horrible but he was solid at best (and he was only solid playing a #3 or #4 WR). I don't think he is beating any teams 2nd corner. Hawkins is all around better than shipley (and he plays special teams + coverage teams), the only knock, and it is a big knock, is he is 5'7''. I'm glad this isn't the old bengals that would let him hang around for the sake of making Dalton happy - they made the right choice. I understand the potential there but man people love them some jordan shipley

I wish him well and do hope he is able to comeback at some point and play, no doubt someone will take a flyer on him...

[COB]

Article showing hit was early in 4th quarter

Wasnt as good after the concussion as before it? In the 4 games before he averaged 3.75 catches for 47.5 yards. The first four games after the injury for comparisons sake 3.75 catches for 54.75 yards. I do understand why the bengals cut him. But I dont think it was the right move, and I dont see any of our options other than Green and Sanu being a guy who can get 52 catches. Particularly as a 3rd wideout and primary 3rd down option. And I really dont understand the immediate hatred for someone who has done nothing wrong for this team except have his knee blown up. Also, the concussion took place on the bengals last offensive play of the game. May have been a 2 point conversion attempt if I remember correctly.

I see your stat, but I still distinctly remember him not being as good after the concussion. He was a lot more tentative, and who could blame him, it was a really bad concussion delivered via one of the cheapest hits to the head I've seen. Also, though it isn't a deciding factor in anything, the hit was early in the 4th quarter, not late or on the last offensive play.

[wpeldios]

Article showing hit was early in 4th quarter

View Postwpdios, on 17 August 2012 - 10:44 PM, said:

Wasnt as good after the concussion as before it? In the 4 games before he averaged 3.75 catches for 47.5 yards. The first four games after the injury for comparisons sake 3.75 catches for 54.75 yards. I do understand why the bengals cut him. But I dont think it was the right move, and I dont see any of our options other than Green and Sanu being a guy who can get 52 catches. Particularly as a 3rd wideout and primary 3rd down option. And I really dont understand the immediate hatred for someone who has done nothing wrong for this team except have his knee blown up. Also, the concussion took place on the bengals last offensive play of the game. May have been a 2 point conversion attempt if I remember correctly.

I see your stat, but I still distinctly remember him not being as good after the concussion. He was a lot more tentative, and who could blame him, it was a really bad concussion delivered via one of the cheapest hits to the head I've seen. Also, though it isn't a deciding factor in anything, the hit was early in the 4th quarter, not late or on the last offensive play.

I stand corrected on the timing of the injury, it was with about 10 minutes left in the game. But i still see the gtfo as hateful and unnecessary to a player who did everything he was asked off and was a class act on and off the field simply because he will be playing for a different team now. I got the hatred with the diva wrs, I understood the hatred with palmer even if I think it was overstated. However I am clueless on that attitude here.

[NLong725]

i hate to see shipley being released he had so great potential all they best wishes for him and a full recovery

[redsbengalsbucks]

Am I the only one thinking this or is shipley not that good. He's small and injury prone. The only two things I remember about shipley - his td in atlanta, and his dropped td against pittsburgh. Hawkins is a more than adequate replacement. I think his value is being overstated a bit.

I won't go that far, IMO Shipley was just a victim of timing. If he stays healthy last season he becomes the clear #2WR.

I don't understand this logic of guaranteeing shipley would have been a #2 WR had he played last year - for all we know shipley could have done diddly poo. Let's not forget his 600 yd 3 td season came during a 4-12 meltdown where the bengals were playing alot of catchup. I'm not saying he was horrible but he was solid at best (and he was only solid playing a #3 or #4 WR). I don't think he is beating any teams 2nd corner. Hawkins is all around better than shipley (and he plays special teams + coverage teams), the only knock, and it is a big knock, is he is 5'7''. I'm glad this isn't the old bengals that would let him hang around for the sake of making Dalton happy - they made the right choice. I understand the potential there but man people love them some jordan shipley

I wish him well and do hope he is able to comeback at some point and play, no doubt someone will take a flyer on him...

He was considered the clear #2 going into last season, due to Simpson/Caldwell being the other option. His consistency was supposed to be a calming poresence to the youngsters in the new offense. If he had stayed healthy, he would have started this season as the starting slot WR at the very least. I think the right decision was made here. I just hope he goes somewhere other than the AFCN, I dont like playing released former players with a chip on thier shoulders.

[cHaD711Johnson]

Shipley isn't a #2 receiver. If he is your #2 guy then your offense won't be very good. He's a reliable, sure-handed slot guy. He doesn't make guys miss and pick up a lot of YAC like Hawkins has the ability to do. He doesn't provide the versatility that Sanu can either. Who was he going to make the team over? The writing has been on the wall since the beginning of training camp. I don't see why people are shocked, or upset besides the fact that he seems like a guy with strong character.

[ArmyBengal]

Had Shipley not gotten hurt, he would still be the clearcut slot guy on this team.

Hawkins wasn't a thought until Shipley went down and he got his shot.

Shipley's release isn't real surprising, but I would say disappointing based upon what he could have been here.

I hope he gets his shot with another team.

[redsbengalsbucks]

Had Shipley not gotten hurt, he would still be the clearcut slot guy on this team.

Hawkins wasn't a thought until Shipley went down and he got his shot.

Shipley's release isn't real surprising, but I would say disappointing based upon what he could have been here.

I hope he gets his shot with another team.

At least someone, agrees with me. Seems like nobody else can remember far enough back (to the beginning of last season) and admit that shipley was the second best WR going into last year. I will state this again, for those not following to well: I THINK THE BENGALS MADE THE RIGHT CHOICE!!

The only thing that I have been saying is that things would probably be different if Shipley stays healthy last season.

[derekshank]

Tampa Bay was awarded Jordan Shipley on waivers today.

[Sea Ray]

So Tampa didn't want Dez Briscoe anymore but they do want Ship...OK

[volcom69]

Good for Shipley and wish him well there. They dont play the Bucs anytime this year, so im happy he is not playing the division. Just hope he gets heathly and does well. The Bengals did him a favor and now he gets on another team.