mikes Posted November 27, 2011 Report Share Posted November 27, 2011 I'm so sick of this guy. He does not want to be a professional football player. It's obvious he went to the NFL for the money, when he did stuff like leave tryouts early, lazy at rehabbing injuries. The guy does not care one bit about football, he's just there for a paycheck. He gets beat bad a few times every game and at least has a penalty or two. I'd love to see this guy cut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cincy9275 Posted November 27, 2011 Report Share Posted November 27, 2011 I'm so sick of this guy. He does not want to be a professional football player. It's obvious he went to the NFL for the money, when he did stuff like leave tryouts early, lazy at rehabbing injuries. The guy does not care one bit about football, he's just there for a paycheck. He gets beat bad a few times every game and at least has a penalty or two. I'd love to see this guy cut.don't blame him. blame the f**king retard that coaches him. by far the worst coach on this staff and a huge disadvantage to the bengals! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted November 27, 2011 Report Share Posted November 27, 2011 I hated the pick when it was made, and I'm not thrilled about Andre now. Still, he's been better than an abject bust and it strikes me as absurd to make that assumption about why he struggles sometimes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volcom69 Posted November 27, 2011 Report Share Posted November 27, 2011 He had a much better second half, Lap said he just wasnt hiself that the way he was getting off the line was off. He made adjustments though and looked much better in the second half. He has had some pretty good games this year, he was just off in the first half, im still giving him time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spor_tees Posted November 27, 2011 Report Share Posted November 27, 2011 He had a much better second half, Lap said he just wasnt hiself that the way he was getting off the line was off. He made adjustments though and looked much better in the second half. He has had some pretty good games this year, he was just off in the first half, im still giving him time.AS far as top 10 picks are concerned, this guy has screwed the pooch. He had a poor attitude of being ready to play early in his career and now he can't play consistently. An NFL franchise can not risk having this guy block for their franchise QB. Part of the reason the Bengals weren't better earlier in the game was because Dalton was running for his life most of the time and did not have enough time to wait for the long routes. This just can't happen. Between Smith and Livings, they accounted for most of the penalties and almost all of the poor blocks. At this point the Bengals need to try some of the other guys, they can't possibly play any worse.Did you see Livings on that last drive for the Bengals? First and goal and he gets a procedure penalty. Then on third and goal he totally whiffs on his man who then tackles Benson 5 yards in the backfield. This was THE most CRUCIAL drive of the game, and the guy doesn't have enough heart or brains to do his job. There is no excuses for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volcom69 Posted November 27, 2011 Report Share Posted November 27, 2011 He had a much better second half, Lap said he just wasnt hiself that the way he was getting off the line was off. He made adjustments though and looked much better in the second half. He has had some pretty good games this year, he was just off in the first half, im still giving him time.AS far as top 10 picks are concerned, this guy has screwed the pooch. He had a poor attitude of being ready to play early in his career and now he can't play consistently. An NFL franchise can not risk having this guy block for their franchise QB. Part of the reason the Bengals weren't better earlier in the game was because Dalton was running for his life most of the time and did not have enough time to wait for the long routes. This just can't happen. Between Smith and Livings, they accounted for most of the penalties and almost all of the poor blocks. At this point the Bengals need to try some of the other guys, they can't possibly play any worse.Did you see Livings on that last drive for the Bengals? First and goal and he gets a procedure penalty. Then on third and goal he totally whiffs on his man who then tackles Benson 5 yards in the backfield. This was THE most CRUCIAL drive of the game, and the guy doesn't have enough heart or brains to do his job. There is no excuses for him.Yea Livings does blow, and i still dont understand how the coaches dont see this. We have been calling for this for years now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJJackson Posted November 28, 2011 Report Share Posted November 28, 2011 Gimme a linemanx2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted November 28, 2011 Report Share Posted November 28, 2011 Gimme a linemanx2Agreed I'd say LG & RG or RT and move Big Dre to RG.pS, Also hire a new Oline coach and promote Zimmer to assistant head coach >.< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cHaD711Johnson Posted November 28, 2011 Report Share Posted November 28, 2011 Gimme a linemanx2Agreed I'd say LG & RG or RT and move Big Dre to RG.pS, Also hire a new Oline coach and promote Zimmer to assistant head coach >.<Andre Smith will not be moved to RG I don't know why people keep suggesting that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earendil Posted November 28, 2011 Report Share Posted November 28, 2011 Why not? The only reason I can see if not happening is because of his salary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjakq27 Posted November 28, 2011 Report Share Posted November 28, 2011 MB won't pay tackle money to a guard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earendil Posted November 28, 2011 Report Share Posted November 28, 2011 I thought maybe he had another reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GapControl Posted November 28, 2011 Report Share Posted November 28, 2011 I have been a huge hater of both Livings and Andre... I have seen them play much better against high quality opposing dlinemen this year, though. I'm going to wait until the end of the season to declare a state of emergency on them. I would prefer we draft the best WR in the 1st round (simpson's inconsistency) and then G, G/T, S in that order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsbengalsbucks Posted November 28, 2011 Report Share Posted November 28, 2011 I have been a huge hater of both Livings and Andre... I have seen them play much better against high quality opposing dlinemen this year, though. I'm going to wait until the end of the season to declare a state of emergency on them. I would prefer we draft the best WR in the 1st round (simpson's inconsistency) and then G, G/T, S in that order.I'd like the best CB, G in the first and than WR in the second. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 Meet the 2011 Bengals' most improved player.Most ImprovedAndre Smith: From -18.0 to +0.2While Smith may never live up to his draft status, he took a giant leap forward this year with his play on the field. The Bengals lowest-rated offensive player in 2010, Smith earned his grade on just 288 snaps–largely the result of giving up a steady supply of pressure. Looking like a different player (in performance terms), Smith only gave up three sacks, though you’d want to see his number of penalties (eight) reduced.Simpson rates as the guy who had the biggest dropoff, Dunlap as the guy who needs more snaps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volcom69 Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 Meet the 2011 Bengals' most improved player.Most ImprovedAndre Smith: From -18.0 to +0.2While Smith may never live up to his draft status, he took a giant leap forward this year with his play on the field. The Bengals lowest-rated offensive player in 2010, Smith earned his grade on just 288 snaps–largely the result of giving up a steady supply of pressure. Looking like a different player (in performance terms), Smith only gave up three sacks, though you’d want to see his number of penalties (eight) reduced.Simpson rates as the guy who had the biggest dropoff, Dunlap as the guy who needs more snaps.He should be, sure he had a couple of bad games, but this was his first full year, and i thought he made the most of it. If he can stay healthy i think the sky is the limit for him, and can be an anchor on this line for sometime if the bengals want him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkansas Bengal Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 Of course he played well in 2011 and will likely play well in 2012. Why? Because the Bengals didn't pick up the option for 2 additional years. He know's he's playing for a contract this year so he'll likely bust his ass on the field and keep his weight down off the field.But then after he gets his next big contract, I won't be the least bit surprised to see him balloon back up to 370 and break his foot again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueridge Posted February 20, 2012 Report Share Posted February 20, 2012 Of course he played well in 2011 and will likely play well in 2012. Why? Because the Bengals didn't pick up the option for 2 additional years. He know's he's playing for a contract this year so he'll likely bust his ass on the field and keep his weight down off the field.But then after he gets his next big contract, I won't be the least bit surprised to see him balloon back up to 370 and break his foot again.So, a motivated and effective Andre Smith is, somehow, a source of anguish for you? Arkansas can't excuse everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkansas Bengal Posted February 20, 2012 Report Share Posted February 20, 2012 Of course he played well in 2011 and will likely play well in 2012. Why? Because the Bengals didn't pick up the option for 2 additional years. He know's he's playing for a contract this year so he'll likely bust his ass on the field and keep his weight down off the field.But then after he gets his next big contract, I won't be the least bit surprised to see him balloon back up to 370 and break his foot again.So, a motivated and effective Andre Smith is, somehow, a source of anguish for you? Arkansas can't excuse everything.I stopped posting on GoBengals.com to get away from idiots like you. I guess I'll have to figure out how to put you on IGNORE on this site... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted February 20, 2012 Report Share Posted February 20, 2012 Take it to PM's or take it someplace else everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spor_tees Posted February 20, 2012 Report Share Posted February 20, 2012 Take it to PM's or take it someplace else everyone.How about the champagne room? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted February 20, 2012 Report Share Posted February 20, 2012 I don't care where it goes as long as it's not on the board.Nothing further. Back to the thread...I think Andre Smith is going to continue getting better this coming season and if they were to improve the Guard position more, this line could become one of the best in the league a lot sooner than later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spor_tees Posted February 20, 2012 Report Share Posted February 20, 2012 I don't care where it goes as long as it's not on the board.Nothing further. Back to the thread...I think Andre Smith is going to continue getting better this coming season and if they were to improve the Guard position more, this line could become one of the best in the league a lot sooner than later.It's a contract year, he has to get better or he doesn't get paid. Then next year after signing his contract he can start using his Krispy Creme frequent buyer card again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkansas Bengal Posted February 21, 2012 Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 Take it to PM's or take it someplace else everyone.Not a problem...I'll just stop posting here too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted February 21, 2012 Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 Take it to PM's or take it someplace else everyone.Not a problem...I'll just stop posting here too.Oh no, anything but that.Look it was a simple request for both, if you can't do that, please follow through with your last response. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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