2nd Round: Carlos Dunlap

[derekshank]

I don't like Cody. Saban only played him part time because he would get winded. That was in college. He's a part time player at best.

Dunlap fits the mold of the kind of guy the Bengals like. A big, strong DE who is solid against the run, and provides decent QB pressure.

The pass rush specialist is MJ. Dunlap is an every down type DE.

Scouting report per New Era Scouting

Pass Rush/Closing Ability/Moves and Counter Moves: Totaled 19 sacks over the past two seasons. Can get the quarterback from every angle, best used as an interior rusher on passing downs. Uses a nice spin move to the inside gap while maintaining balance and power. When his leverage is right, Dunlap can use a variety of moves to get past a blocker and in to the passer’s face very quickly. Strong bull rusher that can collapse a pocket.

Pursuit/Lateral Movement/Agility: Very agile for a player his size. Can stay on his feet and keep his balance when moving east/west. Can close a gap in the open field fast with his long strides, makes a lot of tackles/sacks from behind.

Quickness/Explosion: Slow off the ball, late reaction. Often the last defensive lineman to move post-snap. Does not shoot out of a cannon, instead gets out of his stance too high which slows him down even more at the point of attack.

Run Defend/Recognition: 25 tackles for loss over the past two years. Very strong at the point of attack and can toss away a blocker with ease when his technique is right. Uses his length well to play with a lot of range within the tackle box. Slow to react, can be set up easily by a counter.

Size/Length/Hand Size: Has ideal size for the left defensive end position in a 3-4. Has a strong 290 pound frame with minimal loose weight. Very long arms that create a lot of separation between him and the blocker when his technique is on point.

Strength/Ability to Shed Blocks: Shows flashes of dominating the point of attack where no blocker can stick with him. His functional strength turns on and off. Will struggle to get off a block when reushing the edge. If he doesn’t get the initial position advantage against a blocker, he takes way too long to get off a block.

Tackling: Does not get in on a lot of action over the course of a game. Can chase a ball carrier from behind, but he does not show proper technique when tackling. Does not explode through the ball carrier, simply tries to drag him down.

Technique/Hand Use/Leverage: Inconsistent technique from top to bottom. Stands out of his stance more often than not and at his height, he makes for an easy target for a blocker to lock on to. When his technique is on however, he becomes nearly unblockable.

Versatility: Has seen plenty of time inside and outside, left and right. Was moved all over the place at Florida, creates mismatches and absorbed double teams across the line. His best performances have come from the inside as a pass rushing defensive tackle.

Final Word: Dunlap is the kind of player that will be drafted higher than what his production would lead one to believe. The physical tool set that he brings to the table is as good as it gets and any defensive line coach that is confident in their ability to get the most out of a player will drool over Dunlap’s potential. Dunlap has shown flashes of being unblockable, but those kinds of performances were too few and far between, as his lack of consistency was maddening to watch. There are motivational issues with him as his level of effort given on each play is up and down. Because of the physical package he brings to the table and the flashes of strong performance, Dunlap could break his way in to the top 10 because of the ceiling he possesses. However the underachiever label that has been placed on his name will scare some away because of the contracts that will be required that high in the draft.

[Kazkal]

I just don't have the feel good thought to the pick. I think there were other players out there, like Cody and Burnett that would have made better choices and you could even argue that Everson Griffen was the better player at the position. Just not sure.

Griffen scares me as much and doesn't give them anything they don't already have. Dunlap gives them options.

why I wasn't to high on him but In zimmer we trust

[BengalszoneBilly]

why I wasn't to high on him but In zimmer we trust

That's all I can go with. His defense show great improvement last season, so that in itself breeds trust.

[Kazkal]

why I wasn't to high on him but In zimmer we trust

That's all I can go with. His defense show great improvement last season, so that in itself breeds trust.

Yup,not only that but he can couch players up get more out of them even if their not that good...Dunlap has the physical tools be beast...just needs be couched up by zim

[HoosierCat]

Dunlap gives them options.

This.

[ShulaSteakhouse]

I like the fact Dunlap can line-up at DT and was a 1st round DE talent. Can be a 3-down player eventually, if not immediately depending.

Not sure the need was there, but I can see the appeal of adding him. Should be an upgrade to Geathers if he works hard.

Downside: Possible flop due to apathy and/or drinking. Would've preferred a pick that high be used at DT or WR or DB.

[ArmyBengal]

I would appreciate anything to make this pick feel better to me, but it just doesn't.

Sure there is potential, but I don't see him as a difference maker for this defense.

Maybe he bumps one of our elephants ?? Maybe Michael Johnson moves to the OLB with Rey going to the middle ??

I really want to like this pick...

[HairOnFire]

In zimmer we trust

In Marvin we trust.

[Kazkal]

I would appreciate anything to make this pick feel better to me, but it just doesn't.

Sure there is potential, but I don't see him as a difference maker for this defense.

Maybe he bumps one of our elephants ?? Maybe Michael Johnson moves to the OLB with Rey going to the middle ??

I really want to like this pick...

I just keep thinking zimmer went to mike brown and said I want this guy he will make our defense better.

[ArmyBengal]

Dunlap gives them options.

This.

And those options differ from Michael Johnson how ??

Strikes me as boom bust...

[HoosierCat]

I really want to like this pick...

If you dont like this pick, teh terrists will win! :

[Kazkal]

Dunlap gives them options.

This.

And those options differ from Michael Johnson how ??

Strikes me as boom bust...

MJ is more athletic can drop back in to coverage....MJ to SLB I feel it

[volcom69]

Anybody have any video clips on him, i would like to see some good plays from him.

[ArmyBengal]

I just want to see someone with some Gator knowledge to come in here and give some really good things to say why he was a better pick than some of the other players still on the board. Hopes and prayers aren't what I was looking for in our 2nd round pick that needs to be motivated to do his job.

[jjakq27]

Id rather someone that they can plug and play rather than move other guys around. Don't know much about this guy but I don't care for the vibe.

[BlainThePain]

I just hope Terrence Cody flops for the Ratbirds.

[HoosierCat]

Hobson:

It looks like Dunlap would be a left end backing up Robert Geathers with the ability of moving into tackle on passing downs. That could conceivably give them four pass rushers on the field at the same time on third down: Geathers and Michael Johnson at ends and Dunlap and Antwan Odom inside.

There must have been no magic in that old striped hat he found/

'Cause Frostee saw the exit door when draft day rolled around.

[HairOnFire]

Dunlap gives them options.

This.

And those options differ from Michael Johnson how ??

Strikes me as boom bust...

MJ is more athletic can drop back in to coverage....MJ to SLB I feel it

I was thinking of Dunlap as a traditional 4-3 bookend, with MJ, kicking a rehabbing Odom inside....where he did most of his damage.

So yeah, options.

[ShulaSteakhouse]

Video Highlights

[ArmyBengal]

Hell Brandon Spikes just went off the board...

[cincyhokie]

I'm going to wait to judge.

The analysis on this page said he didn't have a burst off the ball. The USA Today draft guide says he's EXTREMELY quick off the ball and athletic. The 4 blocked kicks seem to back that up.

Before the media crucifies this guy and leads me into a judgement, I'd at least like to get some more opinions that paid more attention to his play.

[BengalszoneBilly]

In zimmer we trust

In Marvin we trust.

Let him win a playoff game, and I'll think about it.

[cincyhokie]

Video Highlights

Good clip.

Look how slow and unmotivated he looks! I'm sure Zimmer will let him run the locker room how he sees fit.

Dude's a stud. If there's a coach that can maximize his play even more it's Zimmer.

[redsbengalsbucks]

Well, I just cant seem to get myself to like the way the Bengals are drafting this year. Hopefully the next pick actually has some value and is a sure bet to fill a hole. Still need a S, OG and a LB. My top three needs in the draft have not been addressed, yet.

[ArmyBengal]

Again, I want to be happy with the pick and maybe I should watch the clip to make everything alright huh ??

Not like they are going to show anything but the good as with all players.