walzav29 Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 One of the top 3 should be available, but signing Roy Williams to a 1 year deal leads me to think they will take a safety. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
membengal Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 I, personally, continue to hope that Taylor Mays is there and the Bengals scoop him up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 I, personally, continue to hope that Taylor Mays is there and the Bengals scoop him up.Yeah, I'm in that camp !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wpeldios Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 I have been hoping for safety all along. Will continue to do so. Taylor Mays or Earl Thomas, should be the best picks for this team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 I think Talent / Upside if Mays or Earl are there you take them over alot other players that will be available...fingers are crossed we atleast get a crack at one of them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 I'd rather have a DE, but safety wouldn't bug me. Very few things would, really. Mays'd be super. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cincyhokie Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 If were looking at this team to be solid it has a few holes to fill. If were looking at them to make a deep playoff run and be great, this team has ALOT of holes to fill. Safety is definately one of those holes in both categories. Mays or Thomas should be picked if there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walrus Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 I'd rather have a DE, but safety wouldn't bug me. Very few things would, really. Mays'd be super.Seems to me like the first round is relatively DB-heavy and for that reason, I expect at least one of these guys to be available at 21. I do wonder, though, how many teams -- including the Bengals -- actually have a Rd 1 grade on Mays. Is he another Ko Simpson or Darnell Bing who slide down to Day 2 because of a hole in their game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 I'd rather have a DE, but safety wouldn't bug me. Very few things would, really. Mays'd be super.Seems to me like the first round is relatively DB-heavy and for that reason, I expect at least one of these guys to be available at 21. I do wonder, though, how many teams -- including the Bengals -- actually have a Rd 1 grade on Mays. Is he another Ko Simpson or Darnell Bing who slide down to Day 2 because of a hole in their game?I'd be surprised to see him fall quite that far, but who knows? I think poor combine results helped to doom those other two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlainThePain Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 It won't be Taylor Mays. The coaching staff has been saying they want to find safeties that can cover and Taylor Mays is one of the worst safeties in coverage in the entire draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC_Bengals_Fan Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 Unlike previous years, I don't think there's a single position that's so messed up that it needs to be targeted early round 1 Other than QB, we also don't have a position that's so stacked I'd want to stand with what we have. So anything's up for grabsI'm sort of ambivalent about it in general, but this year you take the best (non-QB) player available, bearing in mind that some positions tend to bust more than others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walrus Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 It won't be Taylor Mays. The coaching staff has been saying they want to find safeties that can cover and Taylor Mays is one of the worst safeties in coverage in the entire draft.Fortunately, I think we have a solid coach in Coyle, who is able to evaluate DBs on the basis of how their hips move, etc. -- and not just by their timed speed/combine stats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairOnFire Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 I, personally, continue to hope that Taylor Mays is there and the Bengals scoop him up.Yeah, I'm in that camp !!! I just joined. I'm guessing the new guy buys the donuts, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 It won't be Taylor Mays. The coaching staff has been saying they want to find safeties that can cover and Taylor Mays is one of the worst safeties in coverage in the entire draft.Fortunately, I think we have a solid coach in Coyle, who is able to evaluate DBs on the basis of how their hips move, etc. -- and not just by their timed speed/combine stats.I made the comment in another thread that when you lose both of your starting CB's and the other starting safety and come back for your senior season with news guys and expected to carry the load, it's simply to much. The guy is stupid fast for his size and you simply can't teach that. I have faith the coaching staff could easily help him improve on his weaknesses when he brings the athleticism that Mays does.Mays should have left USC early... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalByTheBay Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 Does the analysis really need to extend beyond the fact that he's from SC? I hereby predict that if Mays is still there at 21, he's a Bengal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairOnFire Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 It won't be Taylor Mays. The coaching staff has been saying they want to find safeties that can cover and Taylor Mays is one of the worst safeties in coverage in the entire draft. Who says they'll stop adding safeties after selecting Mays? I can very easily envision the Bengals drafting Mays as a faster version of Roy Williams, and then adding a CB/FS type in a later round. (Ansah?) If there's a place for Roy Williams in this defense there's a place for a faster replacement who brings more things to the table. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 If there's a place for Roy Williams in this defense there's a place for a faster replacement who brings more things to the table.Hair, that is about the description i've heard as an endorsement for the drafting of Taylor Mays. Spot on and it's not really even arguable as Taylor Mays is a Roy Williams clone and Zimmer thinks Williams is the perfect fit for our defense...I'm at a point now where if Mays is there and we pass on him, I will actually be upset with that decision.Thing is, I really don't think he will be there to begin with. I'm just wishful thinking I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 I'd rather have a DE, but safety wouldn't bug me. Very few things would, really. Mays'd be super.With Roy resigned I like what a DE could bring more,But I'd take Mays & Earl over most if not all DE's in this years draft...Dunno I'm just not saying many DE's that wow me this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COB Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 Does the analysis really need to extend beyond the fact that he's from SC?California-centric thinking. I hereby predict that if Mays is still there at 21, he's a Bengal.Our defense will turn into USC East if we go for Mays. I'd go for him at 21, if not, defensive tackle is currently being Hobsoned on the team site. Didn't Ronnie Lott play at USC? I know that doesn't mean a current safety from there will be just as good, I just like the symmetry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 It won't be Taylor Mays. The coaching staff has been saying they want to find safeties that can cover and Taylor Mays is one of the worst safeties in coverage in the entire draft.He also said it's nice having Safeties who can hit and make people second guess coming across the middle...Ala Roy Williams so Agreed with Hair why wouldn't they want a younger faster healthier version of roy? Plus Mays always played FS where he really meant to be a SS.I'm at a point now where if Mays is there and we pass on him, I will actually be upset with that decision.Thing is, I really don't think he will be there to begin with. I'm just wishful thinking I think. Agreed just can't seem him falling in our laps more so with the Seahawks picking at 14...Teams could see taking Mays 49ers,Seahawks,Falcons & Texans >_< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalByTheBay Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 Does the analysis really need to extend beyond the fact that he's from SC?California-centric thinking. I hereby predict that if Mays is still there at 21, he's a Bengal.Our defense will turn into USC East if we go for Mays. I'd go for him at 21, if not, defensive tackle is currently being Hobsoned on the team site. Didn't Ronnie Lott play at USC? I know that doesn't mean a current safety from there will be just as good, I just like the symmetry.California-centric? Possibly. No more so than the Bengals coaching staff has been, however. I'm just looking at recent history. And while USC is on the west coast, I went to UCLA and hate every molecule of that team...probably because they're good enough to beat the crap out of the Bruins regularly now. For that reason, and that alone, I don't object to the draft tendency. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 Seattle cut Deon Grant....>_< Well Atleast if Mays end up a Seahawk they are closet thing I have to a Local team hehe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COB Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 California-centric? Possibly. No more so than the Bengals coaching staff has been, however. I'm just looking at recent history. And while USC is on the west coast, I went to UCLA and hate every molecule of that team...probably because they're good enough to beat the crap out of the Bruins regularly now. For that reason, and that alone, I don't object to the draft tendency.Yep, the Bengals coaching staff does love USC these days. You went to UCLA? Then forget I mentined Ronnie Lott, and let's remember the mighty Kenny Easley. Dude rattled molars. Pity to go out like he did, though. Death by Advil. f**king Seahawks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairOnFire Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 I'm at a point now where if Mays is there and we pass on him, I will actually be upset with that decision.Thing is, I really don't think he will be there to begin with. I'm just wishful thinking I think. If Mays is off the board you just move on to the next guy. But hearing Zimmer talk about the way Roy Williams was STILL a perfect fit in his schemes answers most of the questions I've had about how Mays would fit here. Some of those questions include...What type of safety best addresses the increased amount of passing Zimmer forsees? Was there still a place for a true centerfielder with lots of thump? A FS/SS hybrid rather than Marvin's oft-discussed FS/CB hybrid? And last, why not both? Mays certainly belongs on any Bengal fans short list....without reservations now. Whether he's the best choice if available is another matter, but I've always been very satisfied with his character and now I'm satisfied in regards to the role he'll play. So I'm good with it. And with Roy onboard for another year I'm excited by the opportunity Mays would have to watch a 5-time Pro Bowl safety as he did HIS job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBengals! Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 Last year's lack of depth at safety was eminent. Though I like Nelson, he had no business starting last year. I also am not sold on Ndukwe. If Williams and Crocker can stay healthy, I love that tandem…I'd say pick up a safety in later rounds (after round 2). Get a skilled position (such as WR or TE) round 1 or 2. Pick best available in 1st (though Mikey won’t do it)... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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