Tight End in the First Round?

[cincyhokie]

FWIW, if the Bengals don't trade down, I'm OK with them taking the best player on the board, regardless of position.

I've always hated the BPA angle, but this year I think it fits.

I would assume that "regardless of position" means BPA in DT, DE, TE, WR, S, G.

[HairOnFire]

BTW Utecth is done, he will be making music from now on, if his head quits spinning long enough to read the notes.

Classless, even for you.

[BengalPimp]

BTW Utecth is done, he will be making music from now on, if his head quits spinning long enough to read the notes.

Classless, even for you.

lol...payback

[BengalszoneBilly]

FWIW, if the Bengals don't trade down, I'm OK with them taking the best player on the board, regardless of position.

I've always hated the BPA angle, but this year I think it fits.

I would assume that "regardless of position" means BPA in DT, DE, TE, WR, S, G.

No, I mean any position.

[HoosierCat]

No, I mean any position.

Funny, that's exactly what I thought when I saw your sig.

Ah. The classics never get old...

[BengalszoneBilly]

No, I mean any position.

Funny, that's exactly what I thought when I saw your sig.

[cincyhokie]

FWIW, if the Bengals don't trade down, I'm OK with them taking the best player on the board, regardless of position.

I've always hated the BPA angle, but this year I think it fits.

I would assume that "regardless of position" means BPA in DT, DE, TE, WR, S, G.

No, I mean any position.

I don't know about you but I'd be super pissed if they went RB, QB, CB, C, and maybe OT in the first round. Considering what will fall to us, I'd be weary of them drafting a LB in round 1 too.

[Stripes]

I think the "BPA" strategy is normally meant to encompass only positions of need, but with the term "need" very loosely defined. I usually like it, assuming the team's most impressive depth chart positions aren't seriously included in the discussion.

And more relevant to this thread -- I don't think any tight end would be the best player available at any first round slot.

[HairOnFire]

No, I mean any position.

Funny, that's exactly what I thought when I saw your sig.

Ba-dink-bonk!

[James_Brooks21]

What's crazy is that Mel Kiper new draft projections came out today, and the receiver (Demaryius Thomas) that he had projected to us broke his foot today and will not be able to participate in the combine. Hopefully he will be available before the draft so we can still work him out.
/>http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/football/nfl/02/17/thomas/index.html

[Baraka]

What's crazy is that Mel Kiper new draft projections came out today, and the receiver (Demaryius Thomas) that he had projected to us broke his foot today and will not be able to participate in the combine. Hopefully he will be available before the draft so we can still work him out.
/>http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/football/nfl/02/17/thomas/index.html

this is good news. unless 1) the bengals draft him in the third round 2)interweb buffoons expect him to lasso the moon coming off injury and transitioning to the pro game 3) i have to read said buffoonery on this (or any) board.

eerily similar to chase coffman, i'm no soothsayer but i believe coffman will silence his critics with his play next season.

[Kazkal]

FWIW, if the Bengals don't trade down, I'm OK with them taking the best player on the board, regardless of position.

I've always hated the BPA angle, but this year I think it fits.

I would assume that "regardless of position" means BPA in DT, DE, TE, WR, S, G.

No, I mean any position.

I don't know about you but I'd be super pissed if they went RB, QB, CB, C, and maybe OT in the first round. Considering what will fall to us, I'd be weary of them drafting a LB in round 1 too.

Agreed with all besides OT,Because if we drafted OT more likely must been one hell of a player and would mean one current ones going to guard (so almost like drafting 1st round guard>

[DC_Bengals_Fan]

Agreed with all besides OT,Because if we drafted OT more likely must been one hell of a player and would mean one current ones going to guard (so almost like drafting 1st round guard>

I used to feel that way, but at this point I don't think you can ever have enough good OL. I might have to consider whether I thought Whitworth plays better as a G or LT before I made the decision though. But if a pro-bowl caliber OT drops to the Bengals (unlikely, but if it did) you have to take him. Then you get two studs at T and LG, which tends to be an underrated position (ask any RB who's ever run behind Hutchinson). I'm OK with that.

Other than QB and C, I'm OK with probably any position in late first round. I'm OK with CB because they need depth, and may not be able to resign both JJ and LH. I'm OK with RB *if* he's got 2005 Chris Perry's pass-catching abilities without the glass ankle. They could still use another stud LB if it came down to it too.

[HairOnFire]

If you're very very quite you can almost hear the soothing sounds of Marvin Lewis pissing all over the idea of using a 1st round on another TE.....

"I'm excited about how Chase will help us. He's a big-time receiving threat," Lewis said. "He catches every ball thrown near him. It's uncanny how he catches the ball. He'll help us down in the scoring zones, he'll help us in medium yardage situations, he'll help us on first and second downs."

[Kazkal]

If you're very very quite you can almost hear the soothing sounds of Marvin Lewis pissing all over the idea of using a 1st round on another TE.....

"I'm excited about how Chase will help us. He's a big-time receiving threat," Lewis said. "He catches every ball thrown near him. It's uncanny how he catches the ball. He'll help us down in the scoring zones, he'll help us in medium yardage situations, he'll help us on first and second downs."

Which is good because it's like people forgot how productive Chase was in college,IF we want a receiving threat at position we have it...If we want someone who is better at blocking we can find it just not in the 1st round o_O

[BengalPimp]

If you're very very quite you can almost hear the soothing sounds of Marvin Lewis pissing all over the idea of using a 1st round on another TE.....

"I'm excited about how Chase will help us. He's a big-time receiving threat," Lewis said. "He catches every ball thrown near him. It's uncanny how he catches the ball. He'll help us down in the scoring zones, he'll help us in medium yardage situations, he'll help us on first and second downs."

Which is good because it's like people forgot how productive Chase was in college,IF we want a receiving threat at position we have it...If we want someone who is better at blocking we can find it just not in the 1st round o_O

I don't think anybody forgot how productive Coffman was in college....It's just that....that was college. We haven't seen anything encouraging from him yet. From the injury, to the coaches saying his lack of blocking skills would keep him off the field.

There really wasn't much positive news from Coffman last year. I'm just as hopefull as the rest of you, that he will turn out to be a weapon for our offense, but you can't just hope and wait...He needs to show it.

[HairOnFire]

I'm just as hopefull as the rest of you, that he will turn out to be a weapon for our offense, but you can't just hope and wait...He needs to show it.

Actually, waiting for Coffman is exactly what I think the Bengals should do. More importantly, I also think it's what they will do.

Frankly, not only do I NOT want a new TE in the 1st round....I won't complain a bit if they don't draft one in ANY round.

[Kazkal]

I don't think anybody forgot how productive Coffman was in college....It's just that....that was college. We haven't seen anything encouraging from him yet. From the injury, to the coaches saying his lack of blocking skills would keep him off the field.

Gresham was only productive in College so how is it any different then Coffman who has a year in the offense? ya he didn't play but atleast its better reason then Jerome o_O...If They want someone who they know will succeed in the NFL they can Bring in a Ben Watson or Bo Scaife

[Stripes]

Frankly, not only do I NOT want a new TE in the 1st round....I won't complain a bit if they don't draft one in ANY round.

Agreed. The high-round TE is already here.

[ArmyBengal]

You can argue both sides of this debate and be at least moderately correct.

We could use a TE based upon having so many question marks at the position, but then again, we already have a pass catching threat in Coffman that the coaches have continued to praise recently. I think people don't give enough credit to Foschi, who came out of nowhere and had a solid season last year. I compare the TE position simliar to the Center position heading into last years draft, where I would have bet a large amount of money they would have drafted center higher. The coaches felt we had the answer on the roster in Cook and waited until later to take Luigs. I think the coaches like what they see out of Coffman and are hpoing all is well with the injury heading into this season.

That being said, I think they wait until at least the 4th before taking a TE, but do agree with the thought of taking one.

The Bengals have been trying to shore up the position for quite some time, but I just don't see how a rookie TE is going to have the impact the team needs at this point, when they have been so wishy washy with how they utilize the position.

I still like Pitta out of BYU and think he would pair up nicely with Coffman in two TE sets.

[Baraka]

You can argue both sides of this debate and be at least moderately correct.

We could use a TE based upon having so many question marks at the position, but then again, we already have a pass catching threat in Coffman that the coaches have continued to praise recently. I think people don't give enough credit to Foschi, who came out of nowhere and had a solid season last year. I compare the TE position simliar to the Center position heading into last years draft, where I would have bet a large amount of money they would have drafted center higher. The coaches felt we had the answer on the roster in Cook and waited until later to take Luigs. I think the coaches like what they see out of Coffman and are hpoing all is well with the injury heading into this season.

That being said, I think they wait until at least the 4th before taking a TE, but do agree with the thought of taking one.

The Bengals have been trying to shore up the position for quite some time, but I just don't see how a rookie TE is going to have the impact the team needs at this point, when they have been so wishy washy with how they utilize the position.

I still like Pitta out of BYU and think he would pair up nicely with Coffman in two TE sets.

fully agree, foschi while not a world beater filled in admirably. in addition to pitta, who i don't really know, i like colin peek from alabama as someone that could be had in the fourth or later.

[TJJackson]

Gimme a lineman

Keep the lines - both of them - strong

[Kazkal]

Agreed with Army I like what we have in Coffman and Foschi and well I don't want to see it addressed to early round 4 sounds about right...

Though Free Agency is still my favorite option

[ArmyBengal]

Let me say this though since I said you could argue both sides of this...

IF the Bengals REALLY do have plans to open the passing game AND use the tight end position to do it AND they are convinced Gresham is fully healed, he would be an absolute nightmare coupled with Coffman in those two TE sets. He would present an absolutely HUGE redzone target for Carson at 6'6 and take pressure off the other WR's. I simply think the team is going to go in another direction.

Bottomline is, while I wouldn't be overwhelmingly pleased, I also wouldn't be overwhelmingly pissed if a healthy Gresham were the pick...

[Ickey44]

I don't think anybody forgot how productive Coffman was in college....It's just that....that was college.

This argument makes no sense. So you're dismissing what Coffman can do just because what he did happened in college, yet at the same time advocating that we take Gresham based on......what he did in college.

Coffman has had a year in this offense and should be 100% by the time training camp starts. I just don't see taking another high round TE until we know what the one we have can do. If Coffman doesn't pan out this year, we still have Foschi who can play capably and then we can draft one next year if needed. Based on Marvin's comments about Coffman the other day, I just don't see Coffman being a bust.