So hows the revolution going?

[HairOnFire]

Bengals draw pack of viewers

By John Kiesewetter • jkiesewetter@enquirer.com • September 22, 2009

The Bengals won big with TV viewers Sunday, averaging 51 percent of all available TV homes locally for their 31-24 victory over Green Bay.

WKRC-TV (Channel 12) averaged a 30.8 rating (282,960 TV homes) for the CBS telecast from 1-4:15 p.m.

Viewership peaked in the final 15 minutes as the teams traded field goals and time expired during the Packers’ final drive. That drew a 38.5 rating (353,700 homes) and a 59 percent audience share .

It was the highest rated Bengals telecast since a Dec.30, 2007, victory over Miami that had a 31.1 rating and 56 percent audience share.

The Bengals biggest TV audience since 2004 was a 45.2 rating and 66 percent audience share for 45-37 loss against the Indianapolis Colts

Sunday’s ratings fell short of NBC’s Feb. 1 Super Bowl telecast on WLWT-TV (Channel 5) that averaged a 44.7 rating and 62 percent audience share.

Channel 12 is likely to get another big TV audience this Sunday when the Bengals (1-1) play the Steelers (1-1) at 4:15 p.m. at sold-out Paul Brown Stadium.

“That will be a huge (ratings) number,” says Les Vann, Channel 12 vice president and general manager.

[bwillycuse]

Bengals draw pack of viewers

By John Kiesewetter • jkiesewetter@enquirer.com • September 22, 2009

The Bengals won big with TV viewers Sunday, averaging 51 percent of all available TV homes locally for their 31-24 victory over Green Bay.

WKRC-TV (Channel 12) averaged a 30.8 rating (282,960 TV homes) for the CBS telecast from 1-4:15 p.m.

Viewership peaked in the final 15 minutes as the teams traded field goals and time expired during the Packers’ final drive. That drew a 38.5 rating (353,700 homes) and a 59 percent audience share .

It was the highest rated Bengals telecast since a Dec.30, 2007, victory over Miami that had a 31.1 rating and 56 percent audience share.

The Bengals biggest TV audience since 2004 was a 45.2 rating and 66 percent audience share for 45-37 loss against the Indianapolis Colts

Sunday’s ratings fell short of NBC’s Feb. 1 Super Bowl telecast on WLWT-TV (Channel 5) that averaged a 44.7 rating and 62 percent audience share.

Channel 12 is likely to get another big TV audience this Sunday when the Bengals (1-1) play the Steelers (1-1) at 4:15 p.m. at sold-out Paul Brown Stadium.

“That will be a huge (ratings) number,” says Les Vann, Channel 12 vice president and general manager.

Wow!

Hard Knocks? Or just the city getting into the team with the great draft and the new free agents?

This is good news. I want Cincy to embrace this team again.

If Bengals win this game, they automatically earn the nations respect, jump to top 10 in power rankings, put doubt into every steeler fan, ensure sellouts for weeks to come.

[jjvolt]

Bengals draw pack of viewers

By John Kiesewetter • jkiesewetter@enquirer.com • September 22, 2009

The Bengals won big with TV viewers Sunday, averaging 51 percent of all available TV homes locally for their 31-24 victory over Green Bay.

WKRC-TV (Channel 12) averaged a 30.8 rating (282,960 TV homes) for the CBS telecast from 1-4:15 p.m.

Viewership peaked in the final 15 minutes as the teams traded field goals and time expired during the Packers’ final drive. That drew a 38.5 rating (353,700 homes) and a 59 percent audience share .

It was the highest rated Bengals telecast since a Dec.30, 2007, victory over Miami that had a 31.1 rating and 56 percent audience share.

The Bengals biggest TV audience since 2004 was a 45.2 rating and 66 percent audience share for 45-37 loss against the Indianapolis Colts

Sunday’s ratings fell short of NBC’s Feb. 1 Super Bowl telecast on WLWT-TV (Channel 5) that averaged a 44.7 rating and 62 percent audience share.

Channel 12 is likely to get another big TV audience this Sunday when the Bengals (1-1) play the Steelers (1-1) at 4:15 p.m. at sold-out Paul Brown Stadium.

“That will be a huge (ratings) number,” says Les Vann, Channel 12 vice president and general manager.

ok, I'll bite...

what does this have to with the revolution, hair?

[membengal]

Um, because the game sold out and people watched in huge numbers? The exact opposite of what the WDR idgits want?

[HoosierCat]

So hows the revolution going?

It seems to be about on schedule. One victory already has WDR coming apart as the "you must root for the Bengals to lose if you're a real fan" crowd attacks the "movement" revolutionaries for being insufficiently committed to the cause (darned mensheviks!). See comments here:

/>http://www.whodeyrevolution.com/whodeyrevolution/2009/09/afc-north-standings.html

[Pidge]

Ah, so that's the revolution thingy is it? Thankfully it's passed me by.

[jjvolt]

Um, because the game sold out and people watched in huge numbers? The exact opposite of what the WDR idgits want?

the who-dey "idgits" really want a bona-fide nfl franchise that is capable of or has the potential to string together a few consecutive playoff runs or, eek, dare I say it, a super bowl run. not 1 playoff loss out of the last 20 miserable seasons at the hands of mike brown. personally, I applaud the site. I really don't know why any aware bengals fan would be dead against them.

[COB]

Um, because the game sold out and people watched in huge numbers? The exact opposite of what the WDR idgits want?

the who-dey "idgits" really want a bona-fide nfl franchise that is capable of or has the potential to string together a few consecutive playoff runs or, eek, dare I say it, a super bowl run. not 1 playoff loss out of the last 20 miserable seasons at the hands of mike brown. personally, I applaud the site. I really don't know why any aware bengals fan would be dead against them.

That's not what they want.

After last season's free agency and off-the-street signings and this spring's draft, when it started to look like the Bengals would have a good season, the primary writer on WDR posted on there saying that a winning season by the Bengals would change nothing regarding the revolution. According to him all their tenets and beliefs were still as valid.

WDR doesn't want a winning franchise, they want Mike Brown gone. To put it another way, they want a winning franchise but only after Mike Brown leaves.

The last, and I mean the very very last, thing WDR ever wants is for the Bengals to win with Mike Brown at the helm. It would directly repudiate everything they've ever stood for.

So they're not Bengal fans, they're Mike Brown anti-fans. Look at their logo, nothing Bengal about it, instead it has Mike Brown's face on it.

So f**k them.

[membengal]

Um, because the game sold out and people watched in huge numbers? The exact opposite of what the WDR idgits want?

the who-dey "idgits" really want a bona-fide nfl franchise that is capable of or has the potential to string together a few consecutive playoff runs or, eek, dare I say it, a super bowl run. not 1 playoff loss out of the last 20 miserable seasons at the hands of mike brown. personally, I applaud the site. I really don't know why any aware bengals fan would be dead against them.

Because they are rooting for the team to lose. f**k them. And, I have news for them. Losing won't cause change. Losing just causes more suffering.

So, f**k their movement. I want this team to win.

ETA: What COB said. 100%.

[ArmyBengal]

Yep, I'll simply concur with what COB said, because there's no reason to rewrite it...

Thanks for saving me the time COB !!!

[HoosierCat]

Because they are rooting for the team to lose.

Well, a few of them are. Most of them aren't. This, as I noted before, is threatening to split the movement (such as it is).

As a vehicle to mock Mikey & Co., I love WDR. The whole urinal cakes bit will live forever in the annals of Bengal fan history, and rightly so. But that's what it was: a "bit," in the sense of a funny radio segment and the like. Basically, a good joke.

The trouble begins when they begin taking themselves seriously as a vehicle for change. They aren't and never will be. The NFLs revenue-sharing policies saw to that long ago.

[Kazkal]

The trouble begins when they begin taking themselves seriously as a vehicle for change. They aren't and never will be. The NFLs revenue-sharing policies saw to that long ago.

Indeed and if you call them out on it they freak out and have little hissy fits,If they got their way and enough fans stopped going to where Mike Brown would act more then likely the team would end up in L.A because the "fans" ran Mike Brown out of town ala Cleveland ran Paul out....I want things to improve I just don't truly see WDR helping.

PS,This Offseason was a step in the right direction hopefully it keeps up

[DC_Bengals_Fan]

WDR doesn't want a winning franchise, they want Mike Brown gone. To put it another way, they want a winning franchise but only after Mike Brown leaves.

I think they don't see Mike Brown as capable of creating a winning franchise, so a few near-0.500 records (like in the mid-90s) allow just enough delusion to prolong the possibility of change. I don't see it as being either-or because the two factors are linked.

I don't read their site, but I at least see the point, even if there's no chance they'll ever get rid of Mikey.

[HairOnFire]

So hows the revolution going?

It seems to be about on schedule. One victory already has WDR coming apart as the "you must root for the Bengals to lose if you're a real fan" crowd attacks the "movement" revolutionaries for being insufficiently committed to the cause (darned mensheviks!).

Thanks for the link. I would have missed the fun.

And speaking of fun, I have to laugh at the revolutionaries who now utter shocked cries of...."What, we're really supposed to root for them to lose? I didn't sign on for that."

[HairOnFire]

As a vehicle to mock Mikey & Co., I love WDR. The whole urinal cakes bit will live forever in the annals of Bengal fan history, and rightly so. But that's what it was: a "bit," in the sense of a funny radio segment and the like. Basically, a good joke.

Yup, and joking about our shared Bengal fate is a time honored and much practiced coping method. I get that.

The trouble begins when they begin taking themselves seriously as a vehicle for change. They aren't and never will be.

I'd guess only two or three of the so-called rebels are stupid enough to believe their own rant. Rather, I think the revolution is largely based upon Bengal fans who were searching for a way to vent their frustrations through dark and sarcastic humor. You'd think I'd love it, wouldn't you? But the core joke was never THAT funny, and it quickly became as tired and played out as Chad changing his name to a spanish number while deliberatly tanking a full season.

Worst of all, in my most humble of opinions...(ahem)...because nearly everyone knows the stated goals are likely to be ignored the revolution became a cause unto itself. A way for disgruntled fans to joke with each other while telling the world..."Hey, look at us. We've got novelty gags, a freaking rented biplane, and a website. We're hilarious. In fact, we think we're the REAL show. So send us donations."

[jrandom42]

The only way that Mike Brown and the Brown family relinquishes control of the team is if the Bengals get sold. Then the new owner can move the team wherever he likes, just like Al Davis. Don't think it can happen because of the lease on Paul Brown Stadium? Just look what Clay Bennett did to the city of Seattle, in taking the SuperSonics to Oklahoma City. Then who are the revolutionaries gonna root for, while looking at an empty stadium every Sunday?

[Walrus]

Just stumbled across this article, which some might find interesting. Since it probably doesn't deserve its own thread, this seems like the most appropriate place to share it -- or maybe I should just post it over on WDR...

/>http://www.wired.com/techbiz/people/magazine/17-10/ff_smartlist_szymanski

Stefan Szymanski and Stephen Ross: Bust Up Big League Sports

Major league athletes are rewarded for talent, toughness, and single-minded dedication. Major league team owners, on the other hand, are rewarded for mediocrity. Having bought their way into a league, lackadaisical owners can extort hundreds of millions of dollars from their hometowns (and charge exorbitant ticket prices) under threat of decamping for another city. They can allow wretched teams to languish year after year and pocket the league's revenue-sharing money rather than invest it in talent, knowing that when they're ready to sell, a scrum of millionaire suitors will materialize. That's because big league teams in the US—and the leagues themselves—are, in effect, monopolies. Major League Baseball even has an explicit antitrust exemption. Without name recognition, fan loyalty, and access to top talent, an upstart league doesn't stand a chance.

How to spark owners with the same competitive fire they demand of their players? Stefan Szymanski and Stephen Ross have a plan: Make teams compete for a spot in the majors. (continued...)

[jjvolt]

who's more stupid? those who hope mike brown will change with public pressure or those who think the bengals will change under mike brown?

[BengalByTheBay]

who's more stupid? those who hope mike brown will change with public pressure or those who think the bengals will change under mike brown?

I'll take © those who are fans of a team, but hope for it to lose.

[HairOnFire]

who's more stupid? those who hope mike brown will change with public pressure or those who think the bengals will change under mike brown?

More stupid? Well, I'm going with those who think Mike Brown will change due to public pressure....especially if that pressure comes by way of another badly written article by Paul Daugherty OR easy to ignore billboard protests and biplane flyovers.

[HoosierCat]

But the core joke was never THAT funny, and it quickly became as tired and played out as Chad changing his name to a spanish number while deliberatly tanking a full season.

Oh, I think the joke has some mileage left (unfortunately) -- but most of the low-hanging gags have been done to death. That's why the urinal cakes were great. The billboards, aerial banners, petitions...yawn, been there, done that.

I don't mind WDR trying to be the real show. But in that case they have to be, y'know, entertaining.

who's more stupid? those who hope mike brown will change with public pressure or those who think the bengals will change under mike brown?

I think you will find both categories in relatively short supply, at least around these parts.

What you will find are a lot of folks who know Mikey will change when hell freezes over, and that the way the organization is run significantly hampers its ability to succeed, but still believe that, occasionally, lightning strikes. It did in 2005, and might again this year. So here's to a beat-down of Pitt this weekend!

[Sea Ray]

Um, because the game sold out and people watched in huge numbers? The exact opposite of what the WDR idgits want?

the who-dey "idgits" really want a bona-fide nfl franchise that is capable of or has the potential to string together a few consecutive playoff runs or, eek, dare I say it, a super bowl run. not 1 playoff loss out of the last 20 miserable seasons at the hands of mike brown. personally, I applaud the site. I really don't know why any aware bengals fan would be dead against them.

Because they are rooting for the team to lose. f**k them. And, I have news for them. Losing won't cause change. Losing just causes more suffering.

So, f**k their movement. I want this team to win.

ETA: What COB said. 100%.

I stopped thinking losing would change anything after the Dave Shula years. Anyone who still thinks losing will change Mike Brown in any way, is "a little slow". You might as well root for them to win. If you don't then you don't get it...

[HairOnFire]

I don't mind WDR trying to be the real show. But in that case they have to be, y'know, entertaining.

Well what could be more entertaining than showing up at Blackfinn's American Saloon, the official gathering spot of WhoDey Revolution, while wearing your official Who Dey Revolution tee-shirt (Purchase Required). Because at Blackfinn's you can not only dine on crappy nondescript food (Purchase Required), you can also throw back copious quantities of cheap swill (Purchase Required)while drinking from your official Who Dey Revolution mug (Purchase Required). Plus, all you have to do is flash your official Who Dey Revolution membership card (Donation Required)to get 10% off any pitcher of beer. Kids love it. And best of all, at Blackfinn's you can join other clueless douchebags who like to gather together to root for their favorite football team to lose....while eating rubbery onion rings and microwaved chicken wings.(Purchase Required)

So for those of you who still haven't joined the revolution...what are you waiting for? Joining is as easy as it is fun as long as you have access to a major credit card. Best, the Revolution even accepts Diners Club!

[HoosierCat]

I don't mind WDR trying to be the real show. But in that case they have to be, y'know, entertaining.

Well what could be more entertaining than showing up at Blackfinn's American Saloon, the official gathering spot of WhoDey Revolution, while wearing your official Who Dey Revolution tee-shirt (Purchase Required). Because at Blackfinn's you can not only dine on crappy nondescript food (Purchase Required), you can also throw back copious quantities of cheap swill (Purchase Required)while drinking from your official Who Dey Revolution mug (Purchase Required). Plus, all you have to do is flash your official Who Dey Revolution membership card (Donation Required)to get 10% off any pitcher of beer. Kids love it. And best of all, at Blackfinn's you can join other clueless douchebags who like to gather together to root for their favorite football team to lose....while eating rubbery onion rings and microwaved chicken wings.(Purchase Required)

So for those of you who still haven't joined the revolution...what are you waiting for? Joining is as easy as it is fun as long as you have access to a major credit card. Best, the Revolution even accepts Diners Club!

Now see, that's what I'm talkin' about!

[jjvolt]

I'm not here to "pimp" the revolution, guys, but since someone brought it up... don't kid yourselves and attempt to fool others into thinking that MB doesn't feel public pressure. back when he took a major step outside the box and hired marvin, he stated it was because of sagging attendence and public pressure. this offseason as well has seen him sign some name players and appoint hobson, chad, whit and others to BEG for people to buy into the bengals this season. hobson has been the preseason mvp if you ask me. (wish they could have kept dorsey too).

where do you think we would be if everyone just continued to blindly buy into MB's school of skullduggery and offered NO RESISTANCE at all? my guess is somewhere similar to back in the late 90's.

as far as the rubbery onion rings, I dunno. not real high on my priorty list.

chew on that, hair.