Henry Focused, Ready for Season

[gregstephens]

It's not a simple matter of just hating Chad.

Ah. Well, at least we've established that hating Chad is part of it. That's progress, I suppose.

Of course it is and I've never denied that either. My point is, the fans of this team have a reason to do so and it's Chad's fault.

That is unless someone wants to argue that FACT.

Sorry Army but the fans would disagree... I would say that the majority of fans here in Cincy want Chad to stay. We support him. MB is wrong here, not Chad.

I would take any bet on that issue you wanted to throw up. You take a survey at the opening game at PBS, after the game when Fredo's dropped three passes, blown two routes and thrown a temper tantrum at Carson, I think you'd come up short on that one.

Your so biased man.. How about he catches 2 TD's and goes 145 yrds on 8 catches. The script would be flipped.... No, I'm saying right now, today. Go do you little survey and I would bet the bank that the majority of Cincy wants Chad to stay.

Just a debate

Thank you for my opening.

Statistically speaking, Fredo has eleven multi-td games in his eight years in the NFL, including just one in 2008. Statistically speaking, my scenario is much more likely than yours.

'You've been pwned'. (whatever the heck that means)

[TJJackson]

CHAD HAD NO QB!!!

also

CHAD HAD NO NUTS

CHAD HAD NO CLUE

CHAD HAD NO PROFESSIONALISM

(etc etc etc)

Naturally, Fitzpatrick is such an awful quarterback that he remains out there in free agenc....err.....whats this? He was signed to a lucrative contract very early in the signing period by a team that specifically targeted him? That can't be! Agreen says he's not a QB at all!

[agreen_112]

It's not a simple matter of just hating Chad.

Ah. Well, at least we've established that hating Chad is part of it. That's progress, I suppose.

Of course it is and I've never denied that either. My point is, the fans of this team have a reason to do so and it's Chad's fault.

That is unless someone wants to argue that FACT.

Sorry Army but the fans would disagree... I would say that the majority of fans here in Cincy want Chad to stay. We support him. MB is wrong here, not Chad.

I would take any bet on that issue you wanted to throw up. You take a survey at the opening game at PBS, after the game when Fredo's dropped three passes, blown two routes and thrown a temper tantrum at Carson, I think you'd come up short on that one.

Your so biased man.. How about he catches 2 TD's and goes 145 yrds on 8 catches. The script would be flipped.... No, I'm saying right now, today. Go do you little survey and I would bet the bank that the majority of Cincy wants Chad to stay.

Just a debate

Thank you for my opening.

Statistically speaking, Fredo has eleven multi-td games in his eight years in the NFL, including just one in 2008. Statistically speaking, my scenario is much more likely than yours.

'You've been pwned'. (whatever the heck that means)

CHAD HAD NO QB!!!

also

CHAD HAD NO NUTS

CHAD HAD NO CLUE

CHAD HAD NO PROFESSIONALISM

(etc etc etc)

Naturally, Fitzpatrick is such an awful quarterback that he remains out there in free agenc....err.....whats this? He was signed to a lucrative contract very early in the signing period by a team that specifically targeted him? That can't be! Agreen says he's not a QB at all!

I'll say it one more time, STATS DON'T MEAN SHIOT! A message board full of the pickiest, most die-hard fans are of course going to be the most critical when it comes to the players.. As far as the general public goes, all they care about is whether you can or you can't play...

Fitzpatrick's a bum TJ. Be a realist for once in your life...

I end with saying the survey looks pretty good in my little office here in Hamilton, Oh.. When asked about the Bengals and whether we should Keep or Cut Chad, the survey says 11-2 want Chad to stay.

Agreen out.

[TJJackson]

Fitzpatrick's a bum TJ. Be a realist for once in your life...

if by "bum" you mean a "backup quarterback who is paid less and gets fewer camp snaps than the starter he backs up"......well, uhm, yeah.

if by "bum" you mean an player who failed to bring their best game to the table every week, act professionally, and earn what he is paid....no, you must have him mistaken for your bed-buddy Princess Chad.

[Wraith]

I guess the issue is the definition of "can play". Not to go all Bill Clinton on you, but if by "can play" you mean play ALL aspects of the position then Chad doesn't qualify, or if you want to quibble with the word CAN we can insert the word WON'T. I guess we can hope Ochenta y Cinco pulls his head out of his anal opening but I for one am not holding my breath, I would love Marvin to able to put Chad in the Kelley Washington category and not activate him unless he is willing to play special teams, but that is wishing for alot too. I don't dislike the guy as a person just as a player on the team I root for.

[HairOnFire]

Give it up, Greenie. The haters will never change.

Last year it was "more TJ, less Chad."

This year it's "more Henry, less Chad."

Next year it will be "more [someone else], less Chad."

As the guy who actually coined the "more TJ, less Chad" rant you couldn't be more wrong....because I'm not about to start clamoring for more Henry. Rather, how about....."more balance, less Chad?" After all, the Bengals now go about 5 or 6 deep at WR, and they've suddenly got as much depth at TE as they once did when Bruce Coslet wore a helmet rather than a headset. So flush the old playbook built around a gameplan that went through Chad, and TJ to a lesser extent, and spread the ball around.

As for Chad himself, how about this strategy? Don't treat him like a superstar again...even if he regains his form and begins producing like he used to. Furthermore, under no circumstances should the team treat Chad as if he were a cancer...even if his past antics fit the profile. Granted, we fans can do that if we want, and yeah...I do. But the team itself should simply treat Chad like it always should have treated Chad. Like he was just another guy passing through.

[ArmyBengal]

The thing most fans can't get by is what Chad use to bring to the field week in and week out. I've never denied what he has the possibility to do on the field. He just doesn't bring that anymore and worse, when things are down, he just b*tches and moans as opposed to setting a professional example for the young WR's coming up on the team. He sets a bad precedence and is a liar.

I've said it before and will say it again. I hope Chad does well this season, but only for what it brings the team in the means of wins. He has the ability to do so. You just don't know who you are going to get walking on the field from Sunday to Sunday. Chad the uber-talented WR that has done monsterous things at the position. Or the headcase that is an embarrassment to the organization.

I'm just sick of worrying about it and like TJ, I feel it's just time to move on. It's sad, because I really loved what Chad use to be and even if he has a monster year, I will still think he's a whining douchebag of a player.

[Pidge]

Why does anyone support any individual player? They mean nothing to me, along with the 6 billion other strangers on the planet. As long as they produce for the team, they're golden with me.

Chad didn't produce last season. He might this season. No doubt the coaches have an idea whether they can count on him or whether he's going to tank the yr again and they'll plan appropriately.

As for Henry, I hope he does well, not because I care about him personally but it makes the Chad issue somewhat redundant if he does and thus the team isn't as badly impacted by any antics from any of the preening millionaires.

[derekshank]

Why does anyone support any individual player? They mean nothing to me, along with the 6 billion other strangers on the planet. As long as they produce for the team, they're golden with me.

I don't care about any of them personally. I wouldn't break plans to meet any of them... including my favorite player Carson Palmer. But you can see from their interviews, from their attitudes on the field, from the perception other players have of them... whether you would like a player if you knew them. I've always kind of liked and cheered for Barry Sanders, Mike Alstott, and more recently Tomlinson. They didn't play for the Bengals, but I liked watching them play... so there's that.

As for them personally, no. I don't really care about any of them personally, and like you said, what I most want is for a player to produce for the Bengals. That said, I sure would hate it if the Bengals brought it Hines Ward because I hate that Motherf**ker.

[Pidge]

That said, I sure would hate it if the Bengals brought it Hines Ward because I hate that Motherf**ker.

Testify.

Just the thought of that sh*t-eating grin.

[HAPPYJAQ]

Some will question this, but I think good ol' Bob B. has had as much impact on Chad's career than anything else. Other than last year, our passing offenses have been in or near the Top 10 in every year since '03. We've changed WR coaches three times in Chad's career. Some will point to Charle Collins being the consistent factor, but our offenses were producing when less talented players like Kitna, Dugans and Farmer were playing for the Bengals. Sure, Bratkowski and our offense have gotten stale and somewhat predictable recently, but as many have suggested, it's due mostly to the OL's struggles. If our line and Carson are right, I still think that Brat's offensive schemes are good enough to make this a Top 10 unit once again (without Chad), with the bonus being that Ced is a better all-around RB than Rudi ever was.

All that said, I think Henry is just as talented and hungrier to make an impact for the Bengals in '09. Also, at some point the Bengals have to find out if Simpson and Caldwell can play, and there's no better time than now. I'd be OK if the Bengals took Saints (and later Falcons)-to-Joe Horn position and ask Chad to stay home all season.