Housh in the NFL.com chatroom

[whizzo]

as stated by the title, housh's in the nfl.com chat room talking about his new team, and of course the bengals. he seems really bitter about the whole bengals organisation (except the fans) and the way he was used... i wonder why.

on a side note, he said Ocho wants out too.

[volcom69]

whatever who cares anymore about him, he was a good player but all he did was whine, and i see things dont change with him even though he is gone. Who cares he can say all he wants that Chad wants out, but chances of him leavin are probably slim to none, so maybe he should just keep his mouth shut and worry about the Seahawks.

[HairOnFire]

Like it or not it seems almost certain our boy TJ is going to continue being Chad's mouthpiece more than ever before...saying all the things Chad wants to say but can't. (Because that's how professionals conduct themselves, right? )

Just because he's moved on doesn't mean TJ won't continue playing the role of devoted sidekick anytime soon. In fact, I'd expect a steady stream of Bengal related jabbery from the Pacific Northwest this year.

[BengalPimp]

I mean, c'mon, obviously the guy's going to vent his frustration after he is gone. Thats what happens. It'll blow over once the season starts. If not, then he runs the risk of being labeled a crying, whiny, b**ch....which I dont think he is.

[ArmyBengal]

Just when you think you don't have to hear TJ piss and moan like he did the last couple seasons when calls didn't go his way, here he is being Chad's b*tch. Way to go TJ and here I thought those people calling you "Douchemandzadah" were assh*les.

DOUCHE !!!

[JoePong]

I mean, c'mon, obviously the guy's going to vent his frustration after he is gone. Thats what happens. It'll blow over once the season starts. If not, then he runs the risk of being labeled a crying, whiny, b**ch....which I dont think he is.

Then you haven't been paying attention the last few years.

[kingwilly]

Chad is a crying, whining, biatch. TJ was just burned out on this team never realizing its potential. It is a drag but he has moved on.

I hold no ire for TJ. Good luck out there with Mora.

[vettespd20]

I feel there are better ways of handling situations, he just made him self look like a bigger ass!!!

[Bearcat1975]

It is crazy all of the players that bash the heck out of the Bengals Organization once they leave town.

Those player must all be real jerks.

/end sarcasm

[gregstephens]

I moved the thread. The 'doush' is no longer a Bengal, I don't care how much he whines on behalf of Fredo.

[HoTbOy]

TJ needs to worry about his team now, who really cares about his opinion, while I appreciated what he did while he was here, he is gone now so just move on and worry about the Seahags upcoming season...

[COB]

I just read the chat, and it wasn't as bad as portrayed in here. He said the fans in Cincinnati were great, and he thanked them for supporting him when he was starting out and when he established himself.

He states that he's a complete receiver and could be a number 1 guy, but the coaches in Cincy saw him as a possession guy, so that's the role he played. He thinks he can do more. I don't see that as a big complaint about the organization. And he said the reason he's not in Cincy is because the Bengals didn't really want him anymore. He said they pursued him, but not to the extent portrayed in the media.

When asked why he's not there, he said, "If they wanted to keep me, I would be there. After four years, I re-signed, because they wanted to keep me. I didn't re-sign after eight, because they obviously didn't want to keep me. And, I'm thankful I'm not pumping gas."

Nowhere in that chat did he call the Bengals cheap, or say the organization isn't any good. In fact he never criticized the Bengals. He obviously recognizes the organization made a business decision.

After reading that chat I respect TJ, and any characterization of him as bitter or pissed off is wrong.

[HairOnFire]

After reading that chat I respect TJ, and any characterization of him as bitter or pissed off is wrong.

Perhaps it isn't wrong....just overstated.

Because there's no doubt in my mind TJ and Marvin are swapping jabs in the media. No, nothing major, and I don't expect that to change. But then again, I don't expect the swapping to stop anytime soon....including TJ's status reports on Chad's level of happiness.

[COB]

After reading that chat I respect TJ, and any characterization of him as bitter or pissed off is wrong.

Perhaps it isn't wrong....just overstated.

Because there's no doubt in my mind TJ and Marvin are swapping jabs in the media. No, nothing major, and I don't expect that to change. But then again, I don't expect the swapping to stop anytime soon....including TJ's status reports on Chad's level of happiness.

Yep, there should be a distinction drawn regarding TJ's pissed offedness. Believe it or not, it doesn't seem to be with the Brown family or the front office. He pretty much accepts that they didn't pursue him very hard. It's more with the coaching staff. He thinks they underestimated him, and underused him. Now, as he puts it, "we'll see who assessed the talent correctly -- me or them."

Poor guy, all the Bengals did was throw to him constantly. Seems to me he lead the league, or was very close, in receptions the last two years.

[ArmyBengal]

I think he's pissed because people say Coles is going to have a better year than he is. With Carson coming back healthy, it wouldn't suprise me.

[JoePong]

I for one am extremely happy to have Coles instead of TJ.

[Bearcat1975]

The only bitterness I see is coming from a few fan's reactions to the TJ story.

I read the interview and TJ comes off as a class act, even when baited (pumping gas).

What is even more laughable is when (insert Bengal player who has finally had enough of the Mike Brown NFL Scam and wants out) says something, all the sudden he is a "fredo" or "cancer" or whatever.

There is only one Fredo. Only one cancer. And he sits in the corner office counting money at the expense of Bengal fans.

TJ on the other hand, classy as usual.

[HAPPYJAQ]

Don't you get the feeling that the Bengals believe it was "addition by subtraction" in not retaining T.J? I'm sure than there's another reasoning/story behind why he didn't re-sign with the Bengals.

[HairOnFire]

Yep, there should be a distinction drawn regarding TJ's pissed offedness. Believe it or not, it doesn't seem to be with the Brown family or the front office. He pretty much accepts that they didn't pursue him very hard.

Actually, I'd say he's trying to have it both ways on that one. He keeps insisting the Bengals were in it until the very end, but also admits he ruled out a return to the Bengals due to vague feelings.

Frankly, TJ seems happy to portray the interest in his services was very high, but if you dismiss the interest shown by the Bengals, as TJ himself seems to do, then it came down to just two teams, with one of them apparently refusing to match the Bengals final losing bid.

[Bearcat1975]

Don't you get the feeling that the Bengals believe it was "addition by subtraction" in not retaining T.J? I'm sure than there's another reasoning/story behind why he didn't re-sign with the Bengals.

If you mean addition by subtraction in the same sense of Carl Pickens, Lee Johnson, Takeo Spikes, Corey Dillon, Chad Johnson, etc, etc etc etc etc etc etc etc, then yeah I guess.

But who is the better WR? Coles or TJ?

TJ

Oh but right, TJ was a "cancer"...

Isn't it funny how players who are Bengals longer than 4 years all turn into "cancers?"

Subtraction by subtraction, more like. Coles is not the WR TJ is, and I'm not even saying I wanted TJ back.

The Coles signing actually reminds me of the Michael Westbrook signing. Dude on his last leg coming to get one last paycheck. Do you really think Coles won't be hurt most of if not all of next season?

Addition by subtraction, indeed.

[Bearcat1975]

Frankly, TJ seems happy to portray the interest in his services was very high, but if you dismiss the interest shown by the Bengals, as TJ himself seems to do, then it came down to just two teams, with one of them apparently refusing to match the Bengals final losing bid.

It did come down to 2 teams. The Vikings and the Seahawks. The Bengals were a part of the process only because they made a bid. But no matter what the offer was from the Bengals, there was no way TJ was ever going to come back. He had enough here and wanted a chance to play for a team where the owner is actually provides the necessary resources to win.

He got his wish. Only thing left was to take some pot shots on his way out from the bitter locals. Now that is out of the way, the only thing left is to watch TJ rack up 1000 yards for the Seahawks while Coles is on IR by week 4.

[gregstephens]

I think he's pissed because people say Coles is going to have a better year than he is. With Carson coming back healthy, it wouldn't suprise me.

The only way it won't surprise me is if the Bengals do the right thing and get smart on the O-line with the draft. Shoring that up, and bulking up the FB position, is a necessity for the Coles signing to pan out. If they screw that up, Coles can't outperform TJ here. Just MHO.

[redsbengalsbucks]

Frankly, TJ seems happy to portray the interest in his services was very high, but if you dismiss the interest shown by the Bengals, as TJ himself seems to do, then it came down to just two teams, with one of them apparently refusing to match the Bengals final losing bid.

It did come down to 2 teams. The Vikings and the Seahawks. The Bengals were a part of the process only because they made a bid. But no matter what the offer was from the Bengals, there was no way TJ was ever going to come back. He had enough here and wanted a chance to play for a team where the owner is actually provides the necessary resources to win.

He got his wish. Only thing left was to take some pot shots on his way out from the bitter locals. Now that is out of the way, the only thing left is to watch TJ rack up 1000 yards for the Seahawks while Coles is on IR by week 4.

I think it is just as likely that Hasselback goes down early next season and TJ has a hissy fit about not getting the ball enough from the backup QB.

Coles has a reputation for playing hurt, but he is getting old, the main reason I was not real high on resigning TJ.

[Bearcat1975]

I think it is just as likely that Hasselback goes down early next season and TJ has a hissy fit about not getting the ball enough from the backup QB.

Oh?

So if the bet was "who will get more yards next season Coles or TJ" your money would be on Coles?

I'm thinking a lot of people would take that action, myself included.

TJ was a company man all but his last season here. I think its funny how some people paint TJ now. I doubt you'll see any "hissy fits" from TJ anymore. He is no longer a Cincinnati Bengal so there is no need.

[redsbengalsbucks]

I think it is just as likely that Hasselback goes down early next season and TJ has a hissy fit about not getting the ball enough from the backup QB.

Oh?

So if the bet was "who will get more yards next season Coles or TJ" your money would be on Coles?

I'm thinking a lot of people would take that action, myself included.

TJ was a company man all but his last season here. I think its funny how some people paint TJ now. I doubt you'll see any "hissy fits" from TJ anymore. He is no longer a Cincinnati Bengal so there is no need.

Not saying that, just that if Hasselback does not return to form TJ will complain loudly to anyone that will listen that if they would just get the ball to him more everything would be OK. That is how he reacts to adversity. Even so, I have always been a big TJ fan, but I was just as leary of signing an aging TJ as I am of an aging Coles.