vettespd20 Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 Just wanted some opinions! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 Just wanted some opinions!He will be the coach of the Cincinnati Bengals [echo]FOREVER...FOREVER...FOREVER...[/echo] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalPimp Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 He's not going anywhere.....He's a good coach, he just needs a better scouting department, and people who can evaluate talent. His philosophy is good, and he's a stand up guy....He just needs players, and more importantly, HEALTHY players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalszoneBilly Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 What I want to know is what happened to that shovel he used to use as a prop in his early years. In 2003/2004 it was a focus on his work ethic. Now it seems all digging has ceased. Wassup with that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vettespd20 Posted December 30, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 i like Marvin as well but if 09 is anything like 08 do you think brown will move on or do you think he will step down? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoTbOy Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 I don;t think anything happens to MLewis he is going to stay, but seeing that he has changed D-coordinators 3x, it seems he may finally gotten it right, now he may have to change the offense, because they have been too predictable the past 2 years...I know we don't have much of a pass rush,and maybe you say we don't have the right players but now I wonder how much coaching has to do with it because we have not had a pass rush since MLewis got here, The D stepped up recently but not the pass rush...So change D-line coach, O-coordinator, and maybe O-line coach... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregCook Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 I don;t think anything happens to MLewis he is going to stay, but seeing that he has changed D-coordinators 3x, it seems he may finally gotten it right, now he may have to change the offense, because they have been too predictable the past 2 years...I know we don't have much of a pass rush,and maybe you say we don't have the right players but now I wonder how much coaching has to do with it because we have not had a pass rush since MLewis got here, The D stepped up recently but not the pass rush...So change D-line coach, O-coordinator, and maybe O-line coach...The guy has won 40% of his games since making the playoffs in 05. Records like that don't get you hired in the NFL. His downfall has been piss poor drafting, fairly serious injuries and poor coaching from his staff if not from himself. However he works for an owner that is unaccustomed to such a high win rate. I believe during Mike Brown's tenure his win rate is down around 30%, give or take a percentage. Marvin's overall win rate is 48%, good enough in Cincinnati. To compound this, it is possible if Marvin turns in another 8-8 record, his 4th as HC, it's possible Mike Brown will extend him past 2010. Think about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volcom69 Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 Marvin Lewis was digging and he hit a huge rock that he cant seem to break up.......Mike Brown. So the digging has stoped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJJackson Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 You seem to be saying that Mike Brown is buried in the ground - I don't think this can be true, as this would be news worthy of a citywide celebration of epic proportions.Since no such mega-party is underway and I have seen no dancing in the streets, I can only conclude that your premise is flawed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairOnFire Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 You seem to be saying that Mike Brown is buried in the ground - I don't think this can be true, as this would be news worthy of a citywide celebration of epic proportions. Have you forgotten the rule that all evil overlords MUST have at least one underground lair? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volcom69 Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 Damn.... I thought this was the ghost of Mike Brown haunting this team forever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrishcovga Posted December 31, 2008 Report Share Posted December 31, 2008 I had heard Marvin Lewis in an interview a few months back talk about how the offense wasn't going to be cute anymore! - If that's not a knock on Bratkowski, I don't know what is.... But like I said, Brat's offense works, but now the offensive line has to be repaired. Our quarterback needs rebuilding, and the runningback situation cannot be ignored like it was going into the '08 season. * As for Marvin Lewis' future..... here goes..1. He'll remain the coach for the next two seasons because he's under contract. 2. The Bengals will win more games next year, but probably fall short of the playoffs again. 3. Marvin will be let go after the 2010 season as he goes 17 wins and 15 losses over the next 2 seasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJJackson Posted December 31, 2008 Report Share Posted December 31, 2008 On point 3, I think it will go more like - when offered another contract extension, Marvin looks over at the Brown clan, puts on his best Will Smith impression, and shouts OH HELLLLLLLLL NO!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairOnFire Posted December 31, 2008 Report Share Posted December 31, 2008 1. He'll remain the coach for the next two seasons because he's under contract. My take? He's likely to remain the head coach for the next two seasons, not because he's under contract, but because he's earned the right to rebuild. 2. The Bengals will win more games next year, but probably fall short of the playoffs again. Pretty heady stuff for a team that only a couple of weeks ago was battling the Lions for the right to draft 1st overall.3. Marvin will be let go after the 2010 season as he goes 17 wins and 15 losses over the next 2 seasons. So the Bengals follow up their 6-10 2009 campaign with an 11-5 season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted December 31, 2008 Report Share Posted December 31, 2008 There has been talk about this team being more of a "Marvin" type of team than any before it. I hope that is a good thing, but anyway around I think it means Marvin will be sticking around and I really don't have a problem with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalszoneBilly Posted December 31, 2008 Report Share Posted December 31, 2008 There has been talk about this team being more of a "Marvin" type of team than any before it. I hope that is a good thing, but anyway around I think it means Marvin will be sticking around and I really don't have a problem with it.Even if it means no post season in 2009? Personally I can't find a reason to keep a head coach who has fielded so many high draft choices with so little to show for it in six years on the job. Excuses be damned. They're like a**h***s, everybody has one, and they all stink. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted December 31, 2008 Report Share Posted December 31, 2008 And all of this talk of firing the head coach always leads me back to the most obvious question...Who do we hire to replace Marvin ??I can't think of one coach out there that would #1 want to come here and #2 would be any better with Mike Brown as the owner of this organization. I just think our best bet for at least the next season is to retain Marvin. Without this team having a GM, a young coach would probably be nothing more than a setup for failure in decision making for the team. I think the team regresses with the firing of Marvin. Not much to it, just my feeling... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalszoneBilly Posted December 31, 2008 Report Share Posted December 31, 2008 And all of this talk of firing the head coach always leads me back to the most obvious question...Who do we hire to replace Marvin ??I'm looking for another Forrest Gregg or Sam Wyche diamond in the rough. OTOH considering Mike Browns influence I feel I may as well be searching for the winning power ball lottery numbers.Hope is all I got since confidence got shot to hell after Paul Brown died. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cincy9275 Posted December 31, 2008 Report Share Posted December 31, 2008 marvin's future will be the same as his past, 6-8 wins and no playoffs. after 06, marvin really should have fired basically his whole staff. i said then that, marvins loyalty to these sub-par coaches would be his down fall. and it has been, bigtime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vettespd20 Posted December 31, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2008 Ya I am still a fan of him being our coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet23 Posted December 31, 2008 Report Share Posted December 31, 2008 Just wanted some opinions!Marvin may need a change of scenery, for his sake. I suspect that he can be successful. In fact, he did a nice job his first few years. However, for various reasons (some his fault, some beyond his control) things have gotten away from him. Even though it was against poor competition, they did finish strong. That tells me that they have not quit on him. If ML can talk SOP into keeping TJ and kicking Princess Ocho to the curb, I believe he can start anew. I am sure he would be the first to admit that he made mistakes, especially where the Princess was concerned. There is a bit of hope. The defense is starting to get an identity and some of the young O-Linemen & Andre Caldwell showed promise. The schedule should prove to be far less challenging next year. If everything falls into place, you never know. Look at Miami and Atlanta. Any hope at all, however, hinges on Carson's elbow and SOP's ability to jettison the cancer from this team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted December 31, 2008 Report Share Posted December 31, 2008 I will say it again, I just don't see who would come into here and replace Marvin. That being said, who would WANT to unless they were young and wanting to get their foot in the door ?? With all of that discussion Mike Brown is still the owner... So who do you want to replace Marvin ?? Anyone ?? Anyone ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vettespd20 Posted December 31, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2008 I will say it again, I just don't see who would come into here and replace Marvin. That being said, who would WANT to unless they were young and wanting to get their foot in the door ?? With all of that discussion Mike Brown is still the owner... So who do you want to replace Marvin ?? Anyone ?? Anyone ??I agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsemen Posted January 6, 2009 Report Share Posted January 6, 2009 I will say it again, I just don't see who would come into here and replace Marvin. That being said, who would WANT to unless they were young and wanting to get their foot in the door ?? With all of that discussion Mike Brown is still the owner... So who do you want to replace Marvin ?? Anyone ?? Anyone ??Who do I want? Well it will never happen in a million years but I would want Mike Shanahan. The only stipulation i'd want on the guy is you can't fire assistants without a DAMN good reason. Make him HC/OC and give him the power Marvin supposedly was to have apon coming here. Why Shanahan? Because as cheap as MB is he is the only experienced HC I can think of who would have regular success under the Mikey System. But it'll never happen. Even if Brown suddenly realized "hey I can name this guy GM, JC, AND OC keeping the seats filled and save money but not having to actually hire a real GM or pay an OC, this is cheaper then paying Lewis and Brat!" Shanny wouldn't accept and come here. He'd probably die from lack of oxygen due to laughing so hard over being asked to come interview. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pidge Posted January 6, 2009 Report Share Posted January 6, 2009 Win or GTFO. In some ways it might be too late for Marv. I think he's already been Bengalized. The fact that he keeps repeating platitudes/sound bites and goes with the flow these past couple of seasons. The fire is gone and he might not get it back.HC gigs are rare I understand but if he's sold out and just hanging onto the job title then yeah. Back to DC somewhere else for you. If he had any genuine desire to build a winning team - not just a collection of talented individuals without foundation who manage to come together in a perfect storm for one season then he'd know the Bengals isn't the Franchise for him and would have walked last off season if not the year before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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