Hope all but lost for Odell

[gregstephens]

Props to JungleD for beating oldschooler to the post. That's tough to do.

Well, I did post it on 2 other sites, then went to login here,

forgot my password and had to be emailed another.

And can I ask why my thread was moved to the NFL forum?

Odell was drafted by the Bengals, was cut by the Bengals just

2 weeks ago, and will probably never play for another team now.

So even though he isn't with the team anymore, it is still Bengals news.

I doubt a thread made about Anthony Munoz, Boomer or other former

Bengals would have been moved. Are we only allowed to talk about

former Bengals that left on good terms or that you all deem worthy, in the Bengals forum?

No big deal. Just wonder why you all are so quick to move threads here.

Ecspecially one that is very Bengals related.

I didn't move it, so I can't answer your question, but what's your beef? Who cares which forum it's in? It's still there and people can still talk about Thurman, although I cease to understand why.

Bottom line, he's no longer a Bengal, he could be signed by another team and, most importantly to me, he's likely to be subject to NFL discipline, not Bengal discipline, hence it's NFL news not Bengals news.

I've considered closing the thread because I believe we've seen the last twitch from the dead horse's leg. Be happy you can still drone on about this in any forum.

[oldschooler]

I didn't move it, so I can't answer your question, but what's your beef? Who cares which forum it's in? It's still there and people can still talk about Thurman, although I cease to understand why.

Calm down Gregory. All I did was ask why it was moved.

If you can't answer the question, then why respond ?

And asking a question does not equal "having a beef".

But it does seem like you have one with me.

We root for the same team. Remember?

Bottom line, he's no longer a Bengal, he could be signed by another team and, most importantly to me, he's likely to be subject to NFL discipline, not Bengal discipline, hence it's NFL news not Bengals news.

There are a lot of players that are no longer Bengals, does that

mean they aren't worthy of the Bengals forum?

The dude was drafted by the Bengals, and was released 2 weeks ago

under what some thought were "heartless and unreasonable" circumstances.

Whether he is still on the Bengals roster or not, it's still Bengals news.

I've considered closing the thread because I believe we've seen the last twitch from the dead horse's leg. Be happy you can still drone on about this in any forum.

Why close a thread because you don't want to talk about the topic?

That's over-moderation at it's finest.

I can "drone" on about it on A LOT of Bengals forums. None of them

moved it to another Forum. I was just asking why this board was so

quick to move Bengals news out of the Bengals forum is all. Geez.

[HoosierCat]

This thread wasn't moved. It was the first on the topic and was posted on this board.

[gregstephens]

I didn't move it, so I can't answer your question, but what's your beef? Who cares which forum it's in? It's still there and people can still talk about Thurman, although I cease to understand why.

Calm down Gregory. All I did was ask why it was moved.

If you can't answer the question, then why respond ?

And asking a question does not equal "having a beef".

But it does seem like you have one with me.

We root for the same team. Remember?

Bottom line, he's no longer a Bengal, he could be signed by another team and, most importantly to me, he's likely to be subject to NFL discipline, not Bengal discipline, hence it's NFL news not Bengals news.

There are a lot of players that are no longer Bengals, does that

mean they aren't worthy of the Bengals forum?

The dude was drafted by the Bengals, and was released 2 weeks ago

under what some thought were "heartless and unreasonable" circumstances.

Whether he is still on the Bengals roster or not, it's still Bengals news.

I've considered closing the thread because I believe we've seen the last twitch from the dead horse's leg. Be happy you can still drone on about this in any forum.

Why close a thread because you don't want to talk about the topic?

That's over-moderation at it's finest.

I can "drone" on about it on A LOT of Bengals forums. None of them

moved it to another Forum. I was just asking why this board was so

quick to move Bengals news out of the Bengals forum is all. Geez.

And I don't know the history of this thread in terms of where it started, but I do know that I have never liked public criticism of the moderators long before I became one. You publically criticised what you thought was a moderator decision when it wasn't even the case. You were wrong.

As far as overmoderation, please note I didn't close the thread, I said I thought about and decided it would not be right.

In terms of other issues with your post, I have PM'd you and hope we can settle this in private.

[richmond_mat]

Looks like the Bengals made the right decision on cutting Thurman. Odell Thurman faces an indefinite NFL suspension after violating the league substance abuse policy. I hate t osee all that talent wasted becasue of alcohol.

If he is not under contract with any nfl team, how could he be required to take a test??? I don't get it.

[TJJackson]

The incident may have occurred a few weeks back, when he was still under contract

[Thurmanation]

Some of you are just heartless. For some strange reason a few people believe this kid should hold up to their personal standards and feel the need to cut him down when he does not as if they are somehow better than he is. I just don't get it.

I'm not a fan of Odell's, but I do not dislike him either. Why? Because I don't know him. I don't know what he has dealt with, so why the f**k would I cut him down on here and joke about his problems? He has done nothing to me personally, and he's been off the team for so long it doesn't even matter anymore, so what does that accomplish? I mean, it's not like he's Leonard Little driving around mowing people down in his SUV or Mike Vick having dog fights...the guy just has personal issues with alcohol and drugs that he can't shake, and that has all but completely cost him his dream. It's tragic...not as a Bengals fan, but as a human being.

Took the words out of my mouth.

[BengalPimp]

For some strange reason a few people believe this kid should hold up to their personal standards and feel the need to cut him down when he does not as if they are somehow better than he is. I just don't get it.

I understand the point you are trying to make, but more than the fact that he already has repeatedly let downs the fans and the organization.....

.....There is still the fact that HE IS A FATHER, AND HE NEEDS TO MOST IMPORTANTLY, DO RIGHT BY HIS CHILD. If that didnt make the dude GROW UP, i'm afraid nothing will.

[agreen_112]

Props to JungleD for beating oldschooler to the post. That's tough to do.

Well, I did post it on 2 other sites, then went to login here,

forgot my password and had to be emailed another.

And can I ask why my thread was moved to the NFL forum?

Odell was drafted by the Bengals, was cut by the Bengals just

2 weeks ago, and will probably never play for another team now.

So even though he isn't with the team anymore, it is still Bengals news.

I doubt a thread made about Anthony Munoz, Boomer or other former

Bengals would have been moved. Are we only allowed to talk about

former Bengals that left on good terms or that you all deem worthy, in the Bengals forum?

No big deal. Just wonder why you all are so quick to move threads here.

Ecspecially one that is very Bengals related.

Because it makes us look bad if its in the BENGALS section

[agreen_112]

I didn't move it, so I can't answer your question, but what's your beef? Who cares which forum it's in? It's still there and people can still talk about Thurman, although I cease to understand why.

Calm down Gregory. All I did was ask why it was moved.

If you can't answer the question, then why respond ?

And asking a question does not equal "having a beef".

But it does seem like you have one with me.

We root for the same team. Remember?

Bottom line, he's no longer a Bengal, he could be signed by another team and, most importantly to me, he's likely to be subject to NFL discipline, not Bengal discipline, hence it's NFL news not Bengals news.

There are a lot of players that are no longer Bengals, does that

mean they aren't worthy of the Bengals forum?

The dude was drafted by the Bengals, and was released 2 weeks ago

under what some thought were "heartless and unreasonable" circumstances.

Whether he is still on the Bengals roster or not, it's still Bengals news.

I've considered closing the thread because I believe we've seen the last twitch from the dead horse's leg. Be happy you can still drone on about this in any forum.

Why close a thread because you don't want to talk about the topic?

That's over-moderation at it's finest.

I can "drone" on about it on A LOT of Bengals forums. None of them

moved it to another Forum. I was just asking why this board was so

quick to move Bengals news out of the Bengals forum is all. Geez.

And I don't know the history of this thread in terms of where it started, but I do know that I have never liked public criticism of the moderators long before I became one. You publically criticised what you thought was a moderator decision when it wasn't even the case. You were wrong.

As far as overmoderation, please note I didn't close the thread, I said I thought about and decided it would not be right.

In terms of other issues with your post, I have PM'd you and hope we can settle this in private.

C'mon man, I hope your not on some kind of a power trip dude. Close the thread? Why would you even think that? WTF?

[gregstephens]

I didn't move it, so I can't answer your question, but what's your beef? Who cares which forum it's in? It's still there and people can still talk about Thurman, although I cease to understand why.

Calm down Gregory. All I did was ask why it was moved.

If you can't answer the question, then why respond ?

And asking a question does not equal "having a beef".

But it does seem like you have one with me.

We root for the same team. Remember?

Bottom line, he's no longer a Bengal, he could be signed by another team and, most importantly to me, he's likely to be subject to NFL discipline, not Bengal discipline, hence it's NFL news not Bengals news.

There are a lot of players that are no longer Bengals, does that

mean they aren't worthy of the Bengals forum?

The dude was drafted by the Bengals, and was released 2 weeks ago

under what some thought were "heartless and unreasonable" circumstances.

Whether he is still on the Bengals roster or not, it's still Bengals news.

I've considered closing the thread because I believe we've seen the last twitch from the dead horse's leg. Be happy you can still drone on about this in any forum.

Why close a thread because you don't want to talk about the topic?

That's over-moderation at it's finest.

I can "drone" on about it on A LOT of Bengals forums. None of them

moved it to another Forum. I was just asking why this board was so

quick to move Bengals news out of the Bengals forum is all. Geez.

And I don't know the history of this thread in terms of where it started, but I do know that I have never liked public criticism of the moderators long before I became one. You publically criticised what you thought was a moderator decision when it wasn't even the case. You were wrong.

As far as overmoderation, please note I didn't close the thread, I said I thought about and decided it would not be right.

In terms of other issues with your post, I have PM'd you and hope we can settle this in private.

C'mon man, I hope your not on some kind of a power trip dude. Close the thread? Why would you even think that? WTF?

Well, gee, because just like you have the freedom to say any stupid thing you wish and often do, I have the freedom to think about anything I want and decide not to do it. What is it with you people that gets on someone for thinking something, even if it's wrong, and deciding not to do it? Oh, hey, I've THOUGHT about punching people in the face at Bengals' games because I was in a bad mood and they stepped on my foot, but decided not to do it. I guess that's a power trip and I should be ashamed for even THINKING about it.

Maybe you're a prime reason why any moderator on this board would consider closing any thread. After all, you and TJ Jackson caused three of them to be shut down last week. You tend to talk alot and say nothing.

[agreen_112]

All I'm saying is that for you to think about closing a thread for absolutely NO reason is ludicrous... Punching a guy in the face will get you arrested, not a good comparison to message boards.

[gregstephens]

All I'm saying is that for you to think about closing a thread for absolutely NO reason is ludicrous... Punching a guy in the face will get you arrested, not a good comparison to message boards.

All I'm saying is that I realized I shouldn't do it, so I didn't. Not even sure why you brought a non-action, nor why we have to debate a non-point.

[Thurmanation]

All I'm saying is that for you to think about closing a thread for absolutely NO reason is ludicrous... Punching a guy in the face will get you arrested, not a good comparison to message boards.

All I'm saying is that I realized I shouldn't do it, so I didn't. Not even sure why you brought a non-action, nor why we have to debate a non-point.

Hes got a point though Greg, thinking about something and verbally saying it are two different things. Thinking i should grab a receptionists ass at my work and verbally saying "Hey i'm thinking i want to grab your ass" are 2 completely different things.

[gregstephens]

All I'm saying is that for you to think about closing a thread for absolutely NO reason is ludicrous... Punching a guy in the face will get you arrested, not a good comparison to message boards.

All I'm saying is that I realized I shouldn't do it, so I didn't. Not even sure why you brought a non-action, nor why we have to debate a non-point.

Hes got a point though Greg, thinking about something and verbally saying it are two different things. Thinking i should grab a receptionists ass at my work and verbally saying "Hey i'm thinking i want to grab your ass" are 2 completely different things.

I think that was actually my point. I thought about it and DIDN'T do it. What is so hard to grasp about this concept? So if I say I thought about something and decided not to, I'm somehow wrong for saying it? And I don't think closing a thread on a forum board is exactly the same concept as grabbing someone's rear end. Fine, you want to condemn me for SAYING I thought about doing something I didn't do, go for it. I'm tired of belaboring this non-point.

[Thurmanation]

All I'm saying is that for you to think about closing a thread for absolutely NO reason is ludicrous... Punching a guy in the face will get you arrested, not a good comparison to message boards.

All I'm saying is that I realized I shouldn't do it, so I didn't. Not even sure why you brought a non-action, nor why we have to debate a non-point.

Hes got a point though Greg, thinking about something and verbally saying it are two different things. Thinking i should grab a receptionists ass at my work and verbally saying "Hey i'm thinking i want to grab your ass" are 2 completely different things.

I think that was actually my point. I thought about it and DIDN'T do it. What is so hard to grasp about this concept? So if I say I thought about something and decided not to, I'm somehow wrong for saying it? And I don't think closing a thread on a forum board is exactly the same concept as grabbing someone's rear end. Fine, you want to condemn me for SAYING I thought about doing something I didn't do, go for it. I'm tired of belaboring this non-point.

You thought about it and VERBALLY said you thought about it, thats what i'm trying to say.

[gregstephens]

All I'm saying is that for you to think about closing a thread for absolutely NO reason is ludicrous... Punching a guy in the face will get you arrested, not a good comparison to message boards.

All I'm saying is that I realized I shouldn't do it, so I didn't. Not even sure why you brought a non-action, nor why we have to debate a non-point.

Hes got a point though Greg, thinking about something and verbally saying it are two different things. Thinking i should grab a receptionists ass at my work and verbally saying "Hey i'm thinking i want to grab your ass" are 2 completely different things.

I think that was actually my point. I thought about it and DIDN'T do it. What is so hard to grasp about this concept? So if I say I thought about something and decided not to, I'm somehow wrong for saying it? And I don't think closing a thread on a forum board is exactly the same concept as grabbing someone's rear end. Fine, you want to condemn me for SAYING I thought about doing something I didn't do, go for it. I'm tired of belaboring this non-point.

You thought about it and VERBALLY said you thought about it, thats what i'm trying to say.

Here's what I'm trying to say:

[gregstephens]

And before you respond to that last post:

[HoosierCat]

You thought about it and VERBALLY said you thought about it, thats what i'm trying to say.

I'll verbally say that just a few minutes ago I thought about not having another beer and turning in for the night.

But like greg I didn't do it...

[gregstephens]

You thought about it and VERBALLY said you thought about it, thats what i'm trying to say.

I'll verbally say that just a few minutes ago I thought about not having another beer and turning in for the night.

But like greg I didn't do it...

Cheers, amigo.

I'll also verbally say, since it's hard to non-verbally say, that just a few minutes ago I thought about not smoking a nice Macanudo and turning in for the night, but I also didn't do that either (and how is it we don't have an emoticon for smoking a stoagie?).

[HoosierCat]

Funny, was just over at a friends the other day, puffing on a good cigar while pounding a few beers and trying to get his small-horse-sized English mastiff to quit drooling on me. Ah, the things we endure for beer and a good smoke!

[gregstephens]

Funny, was just over at a friends the other day, puffing on a good cigar while pounding a few beers and trying to get his small-horse-sized English mastiff to quit drooling on me. Ah, the things we endure for beer and a good smoke!

Not a drinker, but I feel ya' on cigars. I'll tip you to a pretty decent, yet cheap smoke. Saint Luis Rey. You can get them from $2.50 to about $5.00. Their torpedoes got a 91 rating from Cigar Afficionado. Nice flavor. Only drawback is that they aren't consistent in terms of even burning. Some burn very evenly, others not.

[jjakq27]

Odell was suspended by the league (again) today. This should end any discussion about him going somewhere else and making us pay. Maybe Marvin and Mike were right this time.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d8...mp;confirm=true

[BengalszoneBilly]

Odell was suspended by the league (again) today. This should end any discussion about him going somewhere else and making us pay. Maybe Marvin and Mike were right this time.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d8...mp;confirm=true

There is no "maybe" about this decision. It was the right one.

[gregstephens]

Odell was suspended by the league (again) today. This should end any discussion about him going somewhere else and making us pay. Maybe Marvin and Mike were right this time.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d8...mp;confirm=true

Nah...JungleD and agreen will still find a way to argue this with you.