BTG Posted April 27, 2008 Report Share Posted April 27, 2008 Yea, I think the next pick, if it's not Choice, has to be an O-lineman. Or maybe another D-lineman for depth. Who knows? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DontPushMe Posted April 27, 2008 Report Share Posted April 27, 2008 chad and TJ for that matter on his negotiations coming up.Ok dont go that far. Theres no way we line up opening day with these 2 rookies starting for us. Somehow we need at least 1 of TJ and CJ back.Im fine with letting Chad ruin his career by sitting out the next 3 years until he decides to honor his contract. Teach him a lesson and set a hard stance for any players who want to try this in the future. Not just on the bengals either, too many players are doing this and its ruining the league. So yeah, if Chad sits out all year id love marvin lewis for it.I do think Caldwell and Simpson fit well together though if they both can live up to their potential.Also forget about Justin King. I dont get the fascination with him, hes just a 40 time. No college production, just has the measurables and the talent. Nothing worth getting excited over, especially this early.BTW why is anyone talking about him as a return man? He wasnt a very good one. If we wanted a kick returner we will need to address that later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
membengal Posted April 27, 2008 Report Share Posted April 27, 2008 The Sporting News magazine draft guide is an interesting read after the fact. It is published before a lot of the re-shuffling of thoughts goes on after the combine and what not.At any rate, back then, it ranked Caldwell as its third receiver overall and a 1st round talent, fwiw. Compares him to Chris Chambers. A few of its notes about him: Has the hands to reach out and catch off-target passes. Is tough, willing to catch passes in traffic. Runs sharp routes. Makes fast cuts and has the burst to seperate. Sets up defenders well, selling fakes. Is explosive, elusive and fast. Lacks the size and strength to break tackles; but does show the balance to run through arm tackles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingwilly Posted April 27, 2008 Report Share Posted April 27, 2008 I really like this pick...If Simpson is the Henry "fill-in", then Caldwell is CJ "fill-in"...I wonder what message this sends? Perhaps, "CJ, we're not putting up with your sorry act anymore. Look who we drafted so this team can move on from your drama." If Sims shows up ready to go, then this draft is going to get high marks form me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregCook Posted April 27, 2008 Report Share Posted April 27, 2008 I really like this pick...If Simpson is the Henry "fill-in", then Caldwell is CJ "fill-in"...I wonder what message this sends? Perhaps, "CJ, we're not putting up with your sorry act anymore. Look who we drafted so this team can move on from your drama." If Sims shows up ready to go, then this draft is going to get high marks form me.Lets say Chad had expressed his love of Cincy, Mike and Carson instead of his rant, would we have drafted even one WR at this point in the draft? Maybe one. They will always surround Carson with talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairOnFire Posted April 27, 2008 Report Share Posted April 27, 2008 If Simpson is the Henry "fill-in", then Caldwell is CJ "fill-in"... Really? They need wideout help because of Chad's threats but long-term Caldwell looks like Houshmandzadeh insurance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dadraftnick Posted April 27, 2008 Report Share Posted April 27, 2008 This is a total crack head move.I am not too high on Caldwell but there are so many good WR's better than him they could have picked latter in the draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregCook Posted April 27, 2008 Report Share Posted April 27, 2008 If Simpson is the Henry "fill-in", then Caldwell is CJ "fill-in"... Really? They need wideout help because of Chad's threats but long-term Caldwell looks like Houshmandzadeh insurance.Maybe, but if you lined them both up to run the 40, Caldwell would finish his 40 and be working on another 20 by the time TJ finished the 40. Ok, TJ isn't quite that slow. Caldwell is a burner that TJ couldn't be even with a 40 mph tailwind and running down hill. But TJ will probably at least have a claim to HOF consideration after another 5 years. I bet Chad won't, so speed ain't everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingwilly Posted April 27, 2008 Report Share Posted April 27, 2008 If Simpson is the Henry "fill-in", then Caldwell is CJ "fill-in"... Really? They need wideout help because of Chad's threats but long-term Caldwell looks like Houshmandzadeh insurance.Huh?So you project Caldwell to be in the TJ mold? Are you trying to say that CJ is irreplaceable? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsbengalsbucks Posted April 27, 2008 Report Share Posted April 27, 2008 This is a total crack head move.I am not too high on Caldwell but there are so many good WR's better than him they could have picked latter in the draft.I'll second that opinion, I dont like this pick very much. There are many other places of need that should have been addressed before another Wideout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted April 27, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2008 When was the last time we had a return threat on this team ?? Problem solved... Good pick !!!WHODEY !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDOGG Posted April 27, 2008 Report Share Posted April 27, 2008 That is true, at least we now have a returner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJJackson Posted April 27, 2008 Report Share Posted April 27, 2008 I like this player, but again, I don't like the pick - needed more defense here, or a OL, or maybe even a RBI keep hearing some of you talk about his return skills, but as far as I know, he is not a very good kick returner. I'd be quite happy to be wrong about this, as PR/KR is definitely one of our needs, and it would improve the value of this pick for me. Do any of you have any links to analysis showing his skills as a return man? And yes - I already know he is fast. Fast is good, obviously, but a return man needs more than just speed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted April 27, 2008 Report Share Posted April 27, 2008 This is a total crack head move.I am not too high on Caldwell but there are so many good WR's better than him they could have picked latter in the draft.I'll second that opinion, I dont like this pick very much. There are many other places of need that should have been addressed before another Wideout.I disagree strongly. WR is a huge need this year. I'd put it second after DL. We just cut our No. 3 wideout, our No. 2 will likely be gone after this year (I don't see the Bengals ponying up big bucks for a 32-year-old wide receiver) and our No. 1 WR is threatening to spend the season making movies with George Clooney. And behind those guys, all we have are cast-offs and never-weres.You can argue the specific picks, especially Simpson's, but we need receivers bad. I wouldn't be surprised to see another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pidge Posted April 27, 2008 Report Share Posted April 27, 2008 This is a total crack head move.I am not too high on Caldwell but there are so many good WR's better than him they could have picked latter in the draft.I'll second that opinion, I dont like this pick very much. There are many other places of need that should have been addressed before another Wideout.I disagree strongly. WR is a huge need this year. I'd put it second after DL. We just cut our No. 3 wideout, our No. 2 will likely be gone after this year (I don't see the Bengals ponying up big bucks for a 32-year-old wide receiver) and our No. 1 WR is threatening to spend the season making movies with George Clooney. And behind those guys, all we have are cast-offs and never-weres.You can argue the specific picks, especially Simpson's, but we need receivers bad. I wouldn't be surprised to see another.I'd agree with that. At the very least, worst case scenario - we might be without what were our three starting WRs just a couple of weeks ago come the beginning of next season. Much less costly in terms of trades etc to get a couple of promising WRs in to learn a few tricks for a year than overpay for mediocre WRs in FA or draft three rookies next draft and throw them straight into the starting line up. This is insurance/forward planning. Something that is encouraging. Better to do it now when they have the picks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregCook Posted April 27, 2008 Report Share Posted April 27, 2008 This is a total crack head move.I am not too high on Caldwell but there are so many good WR's better than him they could have picked latter in the draft.I'll second that opinion, I dont like this pick very much. There are many other places of need that should have been addressed before another Wideout.I disagree strongly. WR is a huge need this year. I'd put it second after DL. We just cut our No. 3 wideout, our No. 2 will likely be gone after this year (I don't see the Bengals ponying up big bucks for a 32-year-old wide receiver) and our No. 1 WR is threatening to spend the season making movies with George Clooney. And behind those guys, all we have are cast-offs and never-weres.You can argue the specific picks, especially Simpson's, but we need receivers bad. I wouldn't be surprised to see another.I'd agree with that. At the very least, worst case scenario - we might be without what were our three starting WRs just a couple of weeks ago come the beginning of next season. Much less costly in terms of trades etc to get a couple of promising WRs in to learn a few tricks for a year than overpay for mediocre WRs in FA or draft three rookies next draft and throw them straight into the starting line up. This is insurance/forward planning. Something that is encouraging. Better to do it now when they have the picks.What good is Carson Palmer if he doesn't have someone to throw too? Picking two early WR's made sense to me. Unfortunately the media darlings for WR looked kind of crappy to me just on the measurables. These two guys have great measurables, but what I don't know is how they play. Hey off topic, wonder what is going thru Chad's PMS brain right now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pidge Posted April 27, 2008 Report Share Posted April 27, 2008 Hey off topic, wonder what is going thru Chad's PMS brain right now?He's thinking about how all men are bastards or something else equally self pitying. I bet the conversations with Drew are little less fun-filled though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalszoneBilly Posted April 27, 2008 Report Share Posted April 27, 2008 Hey off topic, wonder what is going thru Chad's PMS brain right now?Aside from a slew of wadded up McDonald's burger wrappers blowing around, I'd say it's a sea of anguish. I couldn't be happier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted April 27, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2008 I haven't had time, but has anyone seen anything in regards to Caldwell's return abilities ??WHODEY !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJJackson Posted April 27, 2008 Report Share Posted April 27, 2008 I asked about that earlier, Army, and no responses - this after several people said something about him being a good return guy. Everything I am reading says he is not a return manI'd love to be wrong - we need a return man, and so much the better if it is the fastest guy we drafted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pidge Posted April 27, 2008 Report Share Posted April 27, 2008 Only thing I know about him is he's Reche's little bro. I hope he doesn't have the fish eye thing going on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyline Posted April 27, 2008 Report Share Posted April 27, 2008 From NFL.com: He gained 752 yards on 37 kickoff returns (20.3 avg). Also, he rushed 41 times for 293 yards (7.1 avg) and four scores.I would imagine they didn't utilize his full return skills due to injuries, and simply wanting to reduce the chances of him getting hurt again? When he did return the ball, though, he was successful. Regardless, it looks like the guy knows how to make things happen after he gets the ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted April 27, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2008 Thanks for doing the research for us Skyline !!!WHODEY !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJJackson Posted April 27, 2008 Report Share Posted April 27, 2008 Ya'all consider 20 yards a KR to be successful?Sounds pretty average to meThanks anyway. Mark this guy down as "not a PR or a KR"Maybe Chad could return punts. That'd be fun :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted April 29, 2008 Report Share Posted April 29, 2008 Kirk passes along a promising summary of Bubba's skills...http://www.cincyjungle.com/2008/4/29/46975...rmy-on-andre-ca Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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