Dorsey in Stripes, Levi Pissed

[mgi]

So the Bengals waived Dawson and re-signed Dorsey. What does this say about Rudi's injury? The way everyone (Jim Anderson) seemed to say about Dawson, I was kind of looking forward to seeing him (what are the chances he is signed to the pratice squad?)

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According to the .com, the Bengals signed Dede Dorsey and waived Dawson off the practice squad. There is also a tid bit about Levi still being unhappy.

Also Tuesday, left tackle Levi Jones continued to question his role despite seeing extended playing time last Sunday in Seattle. He said he expects to play only if guard Stacy Andrews misses time due to a shoulder injury.

"All I know is that this isn't what I signed up for," Jones said.

Marvin is being a stubborn a$$ as usual and hurting the team by not letting Levi play the whole game. I think it was prett obvious how much better the O-line was in the second half once Levi was in the game and Whitworth was moved to Guard.

[TJJackson]

I don't like this either....if Levi is healthy, he *should* be playing. I like Whitworth overall, but like him much much better as a guard rather than a LT. To be honest, I think Whitworth's best spot might be RT, since Willie is clearly not able to go complete games anymore due to injury.

As an aside....it strikes me as odd how quiet Levi was on the whole assault and robbery thing in las Vegas yet is so vocal about playing time issues. I'm not saying he was completely silent then - he wasn't - but it was almost like he shrugged it off despite the fact that in essence, multiple felonies (assault and robbery) were committed against him

I like the Dorsey signing....he's instantly familiar with the offense and while not a proven commodity, is closer to it than Dawson was.

[DC_Bengals_Fan]

I don't like this either....if Levi is healthy, he *should* be playing. I like Whitworth overall, but like him much much better as a guard rather than a LT. To be honest, I think Whitworth's best spot might be RT, since Willie is clearly not able to go complete games anymore due to injury.

Yeah, this makes no freaking sense. Bottom line is, as bad as our O-line has been we need the best 5 guys out there, and Levi and Whitworth are both among them.

Apparently the population of people who think Stacy Andrews is better than Levi consists of Marvin and Stacy's mama.

[TJJackson]

Mind you, I like Stacey too.....I am grateful we have the depth we do on the OL, particularly with all these injuries....but the best 5 are (in no particular order) Willie, Levi, Ghiaciuc, Williams, and Whitworth. I'd say Andrews and Kooistra are about even for the 6th spot - Andrews more athletic, Kooistra more experienced - and both are better than average quality backups.

[Ickey44]

Whitworth is good, just not at tackle. He's shown he can't handle the speed rush all that well. I think Andrews or Whitworth at guard is just as good as the other. Bottom line: Levi should be playing if healthy. I think that Levi is in Marvin's doghouse for not keeing it "in house", and this is his punishment. This is the same way Odell has been treated by Marvin for two years now. Marvin needs to grow up and realize that you don't have to like your players to be able to work with them and coach them. His treatment of Levi is a little excessive for telling some reporters he doesn't know why he's not starting. What a load of crap.

[Kazkal]

Whitworth is good, just not at tackle. He's shown he can't handle the speed rush all that well.

Actually he has the only game where he's really gotten owned was colts game last year,He would be a better RT then a LT though since you want best passprotecter possible on your QB's blind side but I still think your underrating whitworth the dude was a beast

[BENGALTHEM]

They need to start both Levi and Whitworth. It's that simple. The best players need to be on the field.

I like the Dorsey signing but what I don't understand is why cut Quincy Wilson for Dawson, then turn around and cut Dawson? It would be nice to have Quincy if Rudi is going to miss significant time.

[JoePong]

Because Quincy Wilson isn't any good.

[HairOnFire]

If I asked posters where they were getting all of the "Marvin's got Levi in the doghouse" stuff would they be able to provide anything?

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If I asked posters where they were getting all of the "Marvin's got Levi in the doghouse" stuff would they be able to provide anything?

Well here is the deal. Levi played when hurt an awefully lot in his career when the team needed him to. Now he says he is healthy and ready to go, and when given a chance to play, the O-line has played better as a whole. Despite that, he is still not starting even though it is now going into the 4th game of the year. Add into the fact he played almost the entire last game of the preseason. Levi is no longer hurt, he wants to play and earn his money, and yet he isn't. So what is your explainations as to why he isn't playing?

[HoosierCat]

Levi appears to be off his meds or something; Marvin said at his news conference today that Levi would play LT while Whit and Andrews rotated at LG. Seriously, somebody get Jones a Prozac.

So DeDe is back and Watson is pencilled in to start against the Pats? That's a quicker trigger that I expected from Marvin...but Rudi hasn't impressed so far this year. May as well see if a change of scenery does the running game some good.

Also good to hear Brooks is expected back vs. NE.

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Levi appears to be off his meds or something; Marvin said at his news conference today that Levi would play LT while Whit and Andrews rotated at LG. Seriously, somebody get Jones a Prozac.

So DeDe is back and Watson is pencilled in to start against the Pats? That's a quicker trigger that I expected from Marvin...but Rudi hasn't impressed so far this year. May as well see if a change of scenery does the running game some good.

Also good to hear Brooks is expected back vs. NE.

Only reason Rudi won't be starting is because he isn't 100% with his hamstring injury. The season is still long and there is no reason to kill your workhorse by week 4.

[volcom69]

See and this is why this team/coaching staff pisses me off we have a great tackle making 40 mil and he sits on the bench for a reason unknown, and they wont even tell him. If that was me i would be pissed off to and im tired of the crap that they pull just tell us why hes not in there i dont understand anything this team is doing this year no wonder they are as bad as they are. If there is a simple answer then i think it should be resolved and they should move on but know i guess they are to good to tell anyone anything and i guess thats what makes it so hard to be a fan of this team they dont even play there best guys when they are healthy.

[Kazkal]

Maybe Levi's butthurt thatsteinbach got more money then him and wants to force a trade to get a bigger deal then his 40 million

But really I hope he mans up and stops bitching,earn your roll back show the head coach you want back in rather cry to the media about it.

[HoosierCat]

Only reason Rudi won't be starting is because he isn't 100% with his hamstring injury. The season is still long and there is no reason to kill your workhorse by week 4.

Maybe. But they didn't hesitate to bang away with him all last year when he had a bum knee. Now after what was by all accounts a very minor hammy tweak, its Watson time? Like I said, that's a pretty quick trigger.

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Only reason Rudi won't be starting is because he isn't 100% with his hamstring injury. The season is still long and there is no reason to kill your workhorse by week 4.

Maybe. But they didn't hesitate to bang away with him all last year when he had a bum knee. Now after what was by all accounts a very minor hammy tweak, its Watson time? Like I said, that's a pretty quick trigger.

Maybe that shows you more than you think? Maybe that shows why it seems players no longer are following Marvin like they used to. If this is the type of loyalty Marvin shows to his players, why would they play hard for him? I mean Rudi did play all last year with a bum knee, and because he gets off to a slow start this year behind a hurt O-line, he gets replaced? Or how about the Levi situation? If Marvin is a jerk to the fans and the media, why do you think he acts any different with the players?

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Maybe Levi's butthurt thatsteinbach got more money then him and wants to force a trade to get a bigger deal then his 40 million

But really I hope he mans up and stops bitching,earn your roll back show the head coach you want back in rather cry to the media about it.

Levi hasn't complained one bit about how much money he got. I have no idea where you got that idea. The only thing Levi has been complaining about is why he is getting paid so much and not getting to play. He actually WANTS to play and earn his paycheck. Why does that make him a bad guy?

[HoosierCat]

Maybe that shows you more than you think? Maybe that shows why it seems players no longer are following Marvin like they used to. If this is the type of loyalty Marvin shows to his players, why would they play hard for him? I mean Rudi did play all last year with a bum knee, and because he gets off to a slow start this year behind a hurt O-line, he gets replaced? Or how about the Levi situation? If Marvin is a jerk to the fans and the media, why do you think he acts any different with the players?

Also, maybe, but that's further afield than I see reason to speculate at this point. It seems equally likely, to me at least, that *if* Rudi weren't getting the job done, players would *welcome* a change, right? And if the o-line is so hurt it can't run block, how did Watson get 60 yards on 9 carries last Sunday? As for Marvin being a jerk, well, as far as the players go he isn't paid to be their bestest buddy, he's paid to be the head coach and get results.

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Maybe that shows you more than you think? Maybe that shows why it seems players no longer are following Marvin like they used to. If this is the type of loyalty Marvin shows to his players, why would they play hard for him? I mean Rudi did play all last year with a bum knee, and because he gets off to a slow start this year behind a hurt O-line, he gets replaced? Or how about the Levi situation? If Marvin is a jerk to the fans and the media, why do you think he acts any different with the players?

Also, maybe, but that's further afield than I see reason to speculate at this point. It seems equally likely, to me at least, that *if* Rudi weren't getting the job done, players would *welcome* a change, right? And if the o-line is so hurt it can't run block, how did Watson get 60 yards on 9 carries last Sunday? As for Marvin being a jerk, well, as far as the players go he isn't paid to be their bestest buddy, he's paid to be the head coach and get results.

Watson was rushing the ball behind an O-line that had Levi in as a fresh tackle and Whitworth moved down into the guard position. Also, it was the 4th quarter and the defense was also worn down. Under the circumstances, you would expect he should have better numbers. Also, the Bengals had been pressed into passing so much, the defense had become keyed into the pass and not the run.

[volcom69]

I really wonder anymore how many guys really wanna play under Marvin or wanna play hard for the guy he seems real shady this year like something is going on i dont know, but things really dont seem right for some reason so i just wonder how much respect he really has... i guess time will only tell.

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Volcom makes a point. Marvin doesn't have to be these guys buddy, BUT he does need to have their respect in order to be effective. If a coach comes to them when they are hurt and ask them to play, but when they are healthy but struggling for faults not all their own, treats the like garbage, how does that garner respect?

[Stripes]

I highly doubt Marvin or any of the other coaches are really mistreating Levi. He's probably griping because he isn't playing, and he needs to grow up. He's the one whining to the media and making a big scene out of things. Frankly, the longer he continues to be disruptive like this, the longer he'll be riding the bench.

[BengalByTheBay]

As for Marvin being a jerk, well, as far as the players go he isn't paid to be their bestest buddy, he's paid to be the head coach and get results.

Damn right! He isn't paid to be their bestest buddy -- HE'S PAID TO BE THE BIG TOE!

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I highly doubt Marvin or any of the other coaches are really mistreating Levi. He's probably griping because he isn't playing, and he needs to grow up. He's the one whining to the media and making a big scene out of things. Frankly, the longer he continues to be disruptive like this, the longer he'll be riding the bench.

Well maybe Levi did try to handle it in house, and Marvin and his piss poor attitude shrugged him off. How can you be jumping on a guy for WANTING TO PLAY after signing a big contract? It's not like he is in the last year of a contract and needs to play to get paid. He has already gotten a long term deal and wants to help out the team. How you guys can't be pissed at Marvin for not putting this guy in the lineup I have no clue. Simply amazing!