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We all thought this team could come out in be a great team, but after 3 games im really not seeing any parts of there game at a high level. Yes carson looks good, but at some point u have to run the ball and im just not seeing it from this team at all. Carson cant do everything and its like thats what there asking him to do. Well the defense... well they just really sucks and what really sucks is we can never count on them for big things it seems. Im not sure unless they can some how come toghter as a team which they have yet to do i just dont see them doing much this year and its a real shame, cause us fans have put up with so much crap year in and year out. Its days like today that makes me hate watching football and the media all it does is gives me a headache. So i guess lets just hope they can turn things around and come toghter and that starts with the coaching and moves its way down so i guess we will see, all we can do is just not give up i guess and keep rooting for this team.

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This team needs a D, they did not play bad today, but every time the Bengals score the D lets the other team come right back every time, that has to hurt the O some way to always have that pressure that we need to score every time we are on the field and not just kill clock or run out time...The O with a change at RB or a decent TE or a suspended CHenry would be unstoppable, but you still need to stop people every now and then and hold on to a lead when you have it...

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This team needs a D, they did not play bad today, but every time the Bengals score the D lets the other team come right back every time, that has to hurt the O some way to always have that pressure that we need to score every time we are on the field and not just kill clock or run out time...The O with a change at RB or a decent TE or a suspended CHenry would be unstoppable, but you still need to stop people every now and then and hold on to a lead when you have it...

Good anology Hottie. (Sorry, I can't spell your name correctly to save my life) I agree the offense feels tremendous pressure to have to outscore the other team in every game. How could they feel otherwise?

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We knew after the draft that depth on defense and O-line would cost us. That combined with a ton of injuries has caused significant problems. The running game can't get started at all. The already bad LB corps is decimated. Our CBs are one old inconsistent guy, one rookie, one hurt guy, and one terrible guy. Based on those problems, I was certainly worried about this year. I figured we'd probably lose to the Ravens, beat the Browns, and have a good chance against Seattle. We have to hope we can eek out wins in a game or two we shouldn't and run the table from now on against lesser teams.

The problem is, at this point after playing the Patsies we could easily be 1-3. The good news? We then get a run against KC, Jets, Pittsburgh at home, Buffalo, at Baltimore, and Arizona and Tennessee at home. We should be favored in 5 of those 7 games and all are winnable. We then finish at Pittsburgh, then play StL, SF, CLE, and Miami. We should be favored in 4 of those 5 games. So if they take care of the games they should win, our schedule really isn't that hard this year. Even now, 10-6 isn't out of the question and 9-7 is quite possible.

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Still don't know why we got rid of Hartwell. Still cant comprehend giving Justin Smith the franchise tag. Time to fire Chuck, and Kevin Coyle. Coyle has failed to develop Jj or Hall into studs, and they keep getting burned every play

Add Madieu to that list as well, that's one thing I don't get everybody wants Chuck's head on a platter, but Coyle gets a free pass from the fans when it's the secondary that is consistantly making unexplainable mental mistakes game after game after game...

Madieu is in his 4th year, should be in his prime, but he still consistantly is out of position and fails to get over the top when the defense is playing cover 2. Coyle hasn't developed Keiwan, he hasn't been able to get more consistant play out of O'Neal, Joseph still hasn't recorded a pick, and Hall is getting picked on more than the four-eyed, 90-lb geek in high school aka Geoff Hobson(sorry Hobs I couldn't resist).

I know the d-line isn't exactly fulled with sack artist, but it seems like at least once per game the secondary completely blows a coverage which allows for a huge play for the opponent, something has to change.

Oh yeah, Darrin Simmons needs some help asap. Special teams was my #1 concern for this team after week one and it still is biting us in the ass, this is 5 weeks in a row where the special teams haven't been to special. You can't win when 2 out of 3 of your unit are consistantly messing up.

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To me injuries have killed this team more than anything since we went to the playoffs. I know everyone says that's an excuse & every team has them but thats BS you can't lose your entire starting LB corps as we have for the last 2 yrs & expect to be good ...no team can! people talk of how important it is to have the oline intact so they can work to together & know what each other are doing but never mention how important that is with the D maybe more so because you have to have all 11 guys working together also developing trust in each other to be where they are supposed to be! I believe that is a big reason we keep hearing players making mental mistakes & as much as we're tired of hearing it Marvin is right. Now this year the injuries & the decision not to keep a couple of our key ST players has bit us in the ass big time & has cost us I believe 2 games already & is the only reason Hartwell is not back because he don't play ST. How else do you explain going from one of the best in kick&punt return coverage to the worse. They should clean house with this sorry ass medical staff from the top all the way down to the strength & conditioning coaches.

Another area that was mentioned & I agree with is the d position coaches ,while we have changed DC I may be wrong here but the only constant all these years have been the position coaches. It seems we get players with potential only to see that not realized but maybe even regress ie. MW,JS. Justin smith is a thief getting owned by a freaking TE & rookie are you kidding me !!!! It's time he steps up & earns his money

I just don't think we have seen the D that ML has put together or envisioned since we went to the playoffs we lost pollack,Odell,weathersby on top of an unusual amount of players missing 2-3 games here & there it's tough to put all the blame on ML / CB & the more I think about it it's amazing & perhaps a testament of how good of a coach ML is that we almost (should've) made the the playoffs last year with all the injuries & distractions I'll also go on the limb and say we very well could be 3-0 right now if the ST wasn't playing so bad.

You gotta go with what you got but to say the number of injuries this team has had the last two years is an excuse & hasn't hurt this team is asinine

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The injuries have effected continuity in some key areas...LB, O-Line, and special teams. We have new guys like Lemar Marshall, Dhani Jones, and Schlegel playing a lot of snaps and not knowing the defense. The O-Line has been in flux. Those are the main issues with the team right now. If we start to get guys back, I think we will be more consistently good and should beat most of the teams on our schedule from here on out.

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lol there are no excuses other than the coaching staff is garbage plain and simple. last season everyone knew the defense and s/t where the problem. marvin did nothing to fix it and it is now the problems that are the cause for us losing games this season. we are shooting our selfs in the foot way to many times in a game to win. i mean big returns, fumbles, kicks out of bounds, blown coverage's, missed tackles you name it we do it wrong. i mean dahani jones and lamar marshell are very average lb's but the look so much better than anything i have seen around here in years and that is a shame. so where does the blame ly on defense, the coaches they for what evereason are not getting the job done so far, and it is getting worse. not better some thing has to be done to shake things for the coaches. something has to be done because this staff is not correcting the same mistakes that this team has been making for two seasons now. we all knew this was a problem last season and nothing has changed so far, so really what do you expect. the only thing we have is carson and when the other 2 units defense and s/t's are consistantly screwing up he can only do so much he needs help and so far this team and coaches can not provide it!

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We knew after the draft that depth on defense and O-line would cost us. That combined with a ton of injuries has caused significant problems. The running game can't get started at all. The already bad LB corps is decimated. Our CBs are one old inconsistent guy, one rookie, one hurt guy, and one terrible guy. Based on those problems, I was certainly worried about this year. I figured we'd probably lose to the Ravens, beat the Browns, and have a good chance against Seattle. We have to hope we can eek out wins in a game or two we shouldn't and run the table from now on against lesser teams.

The problem is, at this point after playing the Patsies we could easily be 1-3. The good news? We then get a run against KC, Jets, Pittsburgh at home, Buffalo, at Baltimore, and Arizona and Tennessee at home. We should be favored in 5 of those 7 games and all are winnable. We then finish at Pittsburgh, then play StL, SF, CLE, and Miami. We should be favored in 4 of those 5 games. So if they take care of the games they should win, our schedule really isn't that hard this year. Even now, 10-6 isn't out of the question and 9-7 is quite possible.

Pats Bengals Lose

KC Bengals Lose

Jets Bengals Lose

Pitt Bengals Lose

Buff Bengals win by 3

Balt Bengals Lose

Ariz Bengals win by a touchdown

Ten Bengals Lose

I'm telling you - this is what we have to look forward to

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We knew after the draft that depth on defense and O-line would cost us. That combined with a ton of injuries has caused significant problems. The running game can't get started at all. The already bad LB corps is decimated. Our CBs are one old inconsistent guy, one rookie, one hurt guy, and one terrible guy. Based on those problems, I was certainly worried about this year. I figured we'd probably lose to the Ravens, beat the Browns, and have a good chance against Seattle. We have to hope we can eek out wins in a game or two we shouldn't and run the table from now on against lesser teams.

The problem is, at this point after playing the Patsies we could easily be 1-3. The good news? We then get a run against KC, Jets, Pittsburgh at home, Buffalo, at Baltimore, and Arizona and Tennessee at home. We should be favored in 5 of those 7 games and all are winnable. We then finish at Pittsburgh, then play StL, SF, CLE, and Miami. We should be favored in 4 of those 5 games. So if they take care of the games they should win, our schedule really isn't that hard this year. Even now, 10-6 isn't out of the question and 9-7 is quite possible.

Pats Bengals Lose

KC Bengals Lose

Jets Bengals Lose

Pitt Bengals win by 3

Balt Bengals Lose

Buff Bengals Lose

Ariz Bengals win by a touchdown

Ten Bengals Lose

I'm telling you - this is what we have to look forward to

If you truly believe we will lose all of these games why are u even a fan of the team, honestly I don't understand your logic. What fan believes his team will lose the majority of the games they play, it's rather pathetic.

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We knew after the draft that depth on defense and O-line would cost us. That combined with a ton of injuries has caused significant problems. The running game can't get started at all. The already bad LB corps is decimated. Our CBs are one old inconsistent guy, one rookie, one hurt guy, and one terrible guy. Based on those problems, I was certainly worried about this year. I figured we'd probably lose to the Ravens, beat the Browns, and have a good chance against Seattle. We have to hope we can eek out wins in a game or two we shouldn't and run the table from now on against lesser teams.

The problem is, at this point after playing the Patsies we could easily be 1-3. The good news? We then get a run against KC, Jets, Pittsburgh at home, Buffalo, at Baltimore, and Arizona and Tennessee at home. We should be favored in 5 of those 7 games and all are winnable. We then finish at Pittsburgh, then play StL, SF, CLE, and Miami. We should be favored in 4 of those 5 games. So if they take care of the games they should win, our schedule really isn't that hard this year. Even now, 10-6 isn't out of the question and 9-7 is quite possible.

Pats Bengals Lose

KC Bengals Lose

Jets Bengals Lose

Pitt Bengals win by 3

Balt Bengals Lose

Buff Bengals Lose

Ariz Bengals win by a touchdown

Ten Bengals Lose

I'm telling you - this is what we have to look forward to

If you truly believe we will lose all of these games why are u even a fan of the team, honestly I don't understand your logic. What fan believes his team will lose the majority of the games they play, it's rather pathetic.

SO you think that they are going to the superbowl this year?

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We knew after the draft that depth on defense and O-line would cost us. That combined with a ton of injuries has caused significant problems. The running game can't get started at all. The already bad LB corps is decimated. Our CBs are one old inconsistent guy, one rookie, one hurt guy, and one terrible guy. Based on those problems, I was certainly worried about this year. I figured we'd probably lose to the Ravens, beat the Browns, and have a good chance against Seattle. We have to hope we can eek out wins in a game or two we shouldn't and run the table from now on against lesser teams.

The problem is, at this point after playing the Patsies we could easily be 1-3. The good news? We then get a run against KC, Jets, Pittsburgh at home, Buffalo, at Baltimore, and Arizona and Tennessee at home. We should be favored in 5 of those 7 games and all are winnable. We then finish at Pittsburgh, then play StL, SF, CLE, and Miami. We should be favored in 4 of those 5 games. So if they take care of the games they should win, our schedule really isn't that hard this year. Even now, 10-6 isn't out of the question and 9-7 is quite possible.

Pats Bengals Lose

KC Bengals Lose

Jets Bengals Lose

Pitt Bengals win by 3

Balt Bengals Lose

Buff Bengals Lose

Ariz Bengals win by a touchdown

Ten Bengals Lose

I'm telling you - this is what we have to look forward to

If you truly believe we will lose all of these games why are u even a fan of the team, honestly I don't understand your logic. What fan believes his team will lose the majority of the games they play, it's rather pathetic.

SO you think that they are going to the superbowl this year?

yeah, I do...look at the Colts defense from last year..they gave up over 300 rushing yards to the Jags lead by rookie rb and then they lost to Texans while giving up over 150 yards to the great Ron Dayne before turning it around and winning the SuperBowl.

Dude it's only week 4 of the season, there is so football left to played I don't understand why your sure the season is over. The defense played well in week 1, stunk up the joint in week 2, and played so-so in week 3. They need to be more consistant but they have shown they can get the job done.

What will u do if we go out and beat the Pats like it was the preseason game from 2005?

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We knew after the draft that depth on defense and O-line would cost us. That combined with a ton of injuries has caused significant problems. The running game can't get started at all. The already bad LB corps is decimated. Our CBs are one old inconsistent guy, one rookie, one hurt guy, and one terrible guy. Based on those problems, I was certainly worried about this year. I figured we'd probably lose to the Ravens, beat the Browns, and have a good chance against Seattle. We have to hope we can eek out wins in a game or two we shouldn't and run the table from now on against lesser teams.

The problem is, at this point after playing the Patsies we could easily be 1-3. The good news? We then get a run against KC, Jets, Pittsburgh at home, Buffalo, at Baltimore, and Arizona and Tennessee at home. We should be favored in 5 of those 7 games and all are winnable. We then finish at Pittsburgh, then play StL, SF, CLE, and Miami. We should be favored in 4 of those 5 games. So if they take care of the games they should win, our schedule really isn't that hard this year. Even now, 10-6 isn't out of the question and 9-7 is quite possible.

Pats Bengals Lose

KC Bengals Lose

Jets Bengals Lose

Pitt Bengals win by 3

Balt Bengals Lose

Buff Bengals Lose

Ariz Bengals win by a touchdown

Ten Bengals Lose

I'm telling you - this is what we have to look forward to

If you truly believe we will lose all of these games why are u even a fan of the team, honestly I don't understand your logic. What fan believes his team will lose the majority of the games they play, it's rather pathetic.

SO you think that they are going to the superbowl this year?

yeah, I do...look at the Colts defense from last year..they gave up over 300 rushing yards to the Jags lead by rookie rb and then they lost to Texans while giving up over 150 yards to the great Ron Dayne before turning it around and winning the SuperBowl.

Dude it's only week 4 of the season, there is so football left to played I don't understand why your sure the season is over. The defense played well in week 1, stunk up the joint in week 2, and played so-so in week 3. They need to be more consistant but they have shown they can get the job done.

What will u do if we go out and beat the Pats like it was the preseason game from 2005?

Well there are thousands of Bengals fans out there and I think if you polled them the vast majority don't expect them to go to the big show this year - much less win it. That's great that you think we're that good but you need to face reality - our defense is really really bad - and - now we are minus one starting running back. "Could" we go to the superbowl? Of course! Would I bet my life on it? Hell no. Check out the Vegas odds on that one.

Yes, the Colts defense was inconsitent last year - but the comparison is a big stretch. The Colts D had problems getting things together with a basically sound defense. Our defense is desimated by injuries and filled with rookies - and - some would argue - coached by a second tier staff.

Well you're definitely an optimist and I applaud you for it. You're right it IS only week 4 but here's what really happened over the first 3 weeks...week 1 - barely beat an overated ravens team QB'd by an old injury prone McNair...week 2 - showed how immature, irratic, undisciplined, and poorly coached the D really is and lost to arguably the worst team in the league...week 3 - lost to a very average Seattle fielding a running back with a broken arm - lost via stupid, sloppy execution.

As for your definition of a fan...a fan isn't someone who always thinks there team is going all the way - if that were true you would have to say that the entire population of Cincinnati and Arizona was suffering from acute dillusional disorder for all of the 90's...a fan is someone who follows and supports their team and WANTS them to win. I think you are getting "fan" and "fair weather fan" mixed up. I love the Bengals, I want them to win, I want them to have a strong - winning organization. They don't have one right now and I think they are going to lose a lot of games because of it.

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We knew after the draft that depth on defense and O-line would cost us. That combined with a ton of injuries has caused significant problems. The running game can't get started at all. The already bad LB corps is decimated. Our CBs are one old inconsistent guy, one rookie, one hurt guy, and one terrible guy. Based on those problems, I was certainly worried about this year. I figured we'd probably lose to the Ravens, beat the Browns, and have a good chance against Seattle. We have to hope we can eek out wins in a game or two we shouldn't and run the table from now on against lesser teams.

The problem is, at this point after playing the Patsies we could easily be 1-3. The good news? We then get a run against KC, Jets, Pittsburgh at home, Buffalo, at Baltimore, and Arizona and Tennessee at home. We should be favored in 5 of those 7 games and all are winnable. We then finish at Pittsburgh, then play StL, SF, CLE, and Miami. We should be favored in 4 of those 5 games. So if they take care of the games they should win, our schedule really isn't that hard this year. Even now, 10-6 isn't out of the question and 9-7 is quite possible.

Pats Bengals Lose

KC Bengals Lose

Jets Bengals Lose

Pitt Bengals win by 3

Balt Bengals Lose

Buff Bengals Lose

Ariz Bengals win by a touchdown

Ten Bengals Lose

I'm telling you - this is what we have to look forward to

If you truly believe we will lose all of these games why are u even a fan of the team, honestly I don't understand your logic. What fan believes his team will lose the majority of the games they play, it's rather pathetic.

SO you think that they are going to the superbowl this year?

yeah, I do...look at the Colts defense from last year..they gave up over 300 rushing yards to the Jags lead by rookie rb and then they lost to Texans while giving up over 150 yards to the great Ron Dayne before turning it around and winning the SuperBowl.

Dude it's only week 4 of the season, there is so football left to played I don't understand why your sure the season is over. The defense played well in week 1, stunk up the joint in week 2, and played so-so in week 3. They need to be more consistant but they have shown they can get the job done.

What will u do if we go out and beat the Pats like it was the preseason game from 2005?

Well there are thousands of Bengals fans out there and I think if you polled them the vast majority don't expect them to go to the big show this year - much less win it. That's great that you think we're that good but you need to face reality - our defense is really really bad - and - now we are minus one starting running back. "Could" we go to the superbowl? Of course! Would I bet my life on it? Hell no. Check out the Vegas odds on that one.

Yes, the Colts defense was inconsitent last year - but the comparison is a big stretch. The Colts D had problems getting things together with a basically sound defense. Our defense is desimated by injuries and filled with rookies - and - some would argue - coached by a second tier staff.

Well you're definitely an optimist and I applaud you for it. You're right it IS only week 4 but here's what really happened over the first 3 weeks...week 1 - barely beat an overated ravens team QB'd by an old injury prone McNair...week 2 - showed how immature, irratic, undisciplined, and poorly coached the D really is and lost to arguably the worst team in the league...week 3 - lost to a very average Seattle fielding a running back with a broken arm - lost via stupid, sloppy execution.

As for your definition of a fan...a fan isn't someone who always thinks there team is going all the way - if that were true you would have to say that the entire population of Cincinnati and Arizona was suffering from acute dillusional disorder for all of the 90's...a fan is someone who follows and supports their team and WANTS them to win. I think you are getting "fan" and "fair weather fan" mixed up. I love the Bengals, I want them to win, I want them to have a strong - winning organization. They don't have one right now and I think they are going to lose a lot of games because of it.

Fair enough I respect your opinion, on behalf of the Brown family and the Bengals organization I would like to thank you for your continued support through this horrible season. :P .

I hope the defense and special teams can prove you wrong!! :cheers:

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We knew after the draft that depth on defense and O-line would cost us. That combined with a ton of injuries has caused significant problems. The running game can't get started at all. The already bad LB corps is decimated. Our CBs are one old inconsistent guy, one rookie, one hurt guy, and one terrible guy. Based on those problems, I was certainly worried about this year. I figured we'd probably lose to the Ravens, beat the Browns, and have a good chance against Seattle. We have to hope we can eek out wins in a game or two we shouldn't and run the table from now on against lesser teams.

The problem is, at this point after playing the Patsies we could easily be 1-3. The good news? We then get a run against KC, Jets, Pittsburgh at home, Buffalo, at Baltimore, and Arizona and Tennessee at home. We should be favored in 5 of those 7 games and all are winnable. We then finish at Pittsburgh, then play StL, SF, CLE, and Miami. We should be favored in 4 of those 5 games. So if they take care of the games they should win, our schedule really isn't that hard this year. Even now, 10-6 isn't out of the question and 9-7 is quite possible.

Pats Bengals Lose

KC Bengals Lose

Jets Bengals Lose

Pitt Bengals win by 3

Balt Bengals Lose

Buff Bengals Lose

Ariz Bengals win by a touchdown

Ten Bengals Lose

I'm telling you - this is what we have to look forward to

If you truly believe we will lose all of these games why are u even a fan of the team, honestly I don't understand your logic. What fan believes his team will lose the majority of the games they play, it's rather pathetic.

SO you think that they are going to the superbowl this year?

yeah, I do...look at the Colts defense from last year..they gave up over 300 rushing yards to the Jags lead by rookie rb and then they lost to Texans while giving up over 150 yards to the great Ron Dayne before turning it around and winning the SuperBowl.

Dude it's only week 4 of the season, there is so football left to played I don't understand why your sure the season is over. The defense played well in week 1, stunk up the joint in week 2, and played so-so in week 3. They need to be more consistant but they have shown they can get the job done.

What will u do if we go out and beat the Pats like it was the preseason game from 2005?

Well there are thousands of Bengals fans out there and I think if you polled them the vast majority don't expect them to go to the big show this year - much less win it. That's great that you think we're that good but you need to face reality - our defense is really really bad - and - now we are minus one starting running back. "Could" we go to the superbowl? Of course! Would I bet my life on it? Hell no. Check out the Vegas odds on that one.

Yes, the Colts defense was inconsitent last year - but the comparison is a big stretch. The Colts D had problems getting things together with a basically sound defense. Our defense is desimated by injuries and filled with rookies - and - some would argue - coached by a second tier staff.

Well you're definitely an optimist and I applaud you for it. You're right it IS only week 4 but here's what really happened over the first 3 weeks...week 1 - barely beat an overated ravens team QB'd by an old injury prone McNair...week 2 - showed how immature, irratic, undisciplined, and poorly coached the D really is and lost to arguably the worst team in the league...week 3 - lost to a very average Seattle fielding a running back with a broken arm - lost via stupid, sloppy execution.

As for your definition of a fan...a fan isn't someone who always thinks there team is going all the way - if that were true you would have to say that the entire population of Cincinnati and Arizona was suffering from acute dillusional disorder for all of the 90's...a fan is someone who follows and supports their team and WANTS them to win. I think you are getting "fan" and "fair weather fan" mixed up. I love the Bengals, I want them to win, I want them to have a strong - winning organization. They don't have one right now and I think they are going to lose a lot of games because of it.

Fair enough I respect your opinion, on behalf of the Brown family and the Bengals organization I would like to thank you for your continued support through this horrible season. :P .

I hope the defense and special teams can prove you wrong!! :cheers:

Well - I thank you and you can count on my support - and I really really hope that I'm dead wrong.

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They better fix more then the defense sure the defense is a big problem but so is the inconsitancy in this team. The running game is not there at all, turnovers are killing them,penalties are unexcusable, and this stupid muscial o-line is getting annoying. They have alot to fix, and im tired of hearing that they do alot of good things what really are they doing great besides throwing the ball to basically two recievers. They have alot to work on to make it anywhere good for them its only week 4, but im still not understanding why they have to throw the ball down field all the time why dont they just give the the opposing defense gives them. I think they just need to settle down and try to run more give some short passes more and keep our defense off the field for as long as they can i think that would help.

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