Wraith Posted August 31, 2007 Report Share Posted August 31, 2007 If Leftwich gets released we should pick him up in about a nanosecond.He is a strong armed guy we would have minimal alterations to our normal offense, we could still spread the ball down field and I think he would be terrific behind our O-Line. He is about 10,000x better than Doug Johnson and as it stands now we are dead if Palmer goes down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairOnFire Posted August 31, 2007 Report Share Posted August 31, 2007 On a related note, anyone who favored Byron Leftwich over Carson Palmer needs to check themselves right now. Find a sword and throw yourself upon it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlainThePain Posted August 31, 2007 Report Share Posted August 31, 2007 If Leftwich gets released we should pick him up in about a nanosecond.He is a strong armed guy we would have minimal alterations to our normal offense, we could still spread the ball down field and I think he would be terrific behind our O-Line. He is about 10,000x better than Doug Johnson and as it stands now we are dead if Palmer goes down.I'm sure Leftwich would be thrilled with the idea of sitting behind Carson Palmer. Screw going to a place where he would get a second chance to lead an NFL team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted August 31, 2007 Report Share Posted August 31, 2007 Beat ya, wraith http://forums.bengalszone.com/index.php?showtopic=15717 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wraith Posted August 31, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2007 You know i was one of those dumbasses and I am definately glad that Lewis et. al. had more football sense than I BUT! The reason I wanted Leftwich out of college was his leadership ability. I watched several Marshall games his junior and senior years including that Akron game where his O-Line carried him down the field and I thought "this is a guy who can really lead a team", which was definately something the Bengals needed at that time and something Palmer had been critized about in college.I still think he can be a successful QB in this league and as for going somewhere he could start? Any team that is still looking for a QB this late in the season is going to be a REALLY bad team, with the Bengals he carries a clipboard and if Palmer gets hurt he gets to lead one of the top five offenses in the NFL to pad his resume next year. I think it would be something he would think about particularly since he is a WV guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted August 31, 2007 Report Share Posted August 31, 2007 You know i was one of those dumbasses and I am definately glad that Lewis et. al. had more football sense than I BUT! The reason I wanted Leftwich out of college was his leadership ability. I watched several Marshall games his junior and senior years including that Akron game where his O-Line carried him down the field and I thought "this is a guy who can really lead a team", which was definately something the Bengals needed at that time and something Palmer had been critized about in college.Leadership was definitely a question mark for Palmer coming out of college. And I seem to recall some really stupid "brain type analysis" thing that was done by some alleged expert that boiled down to Carson being a wussy boy...or something like that I'll see if I can find it. Obviously it ended up not being an issue. The trash barrel crack on the other thread is an in-joke for Hair and any other posters who were on the huddles board back then... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wraith Posted August 31, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2007 BTW, not to get totally off topic but,Being stuck here in Nebraska and being a long suffering Indiana (alum) Football and Basketball fan, how are things looking for IU? Any hope that they can get to a bowl game this year, I mean it has only been since I was in school ('93 I think) since we had a winning record. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairOnFire Posted August 31, 2007 Report Share Posted August 31, 2007 You know i was one of those dumbasses and I am definately glad that Lewis et. al. had more football sense than I BUT! The reason I wanted Leftwich out of college was his leadership ability. I watched several Marshall games his junior and senior years including that Akron game where his O-Line carried him down the field and I thought "this is a guy who can really lead a team", which was definately something the Bengals needed at that time and something Palmer had been critized about in college. That's just the thing. I remember the criticism that Palmer was a poor leader and always felt it was ridiculous. Palmer was exactly the same type of leader at USC that he's been with the Bengals, and I have zero complaints. In short, he's humble when most would be arrogant, you will not outwork him, and he'll always take the blame for his mistakes....as well as those made by others. He leads by example without being a rah-rah cheerleader and the rough spots he went through at USC only served to make him stronger and more prepared for the big stage. As for Leftwich, far too much was made out of him being carried around like a bag of groceries, and he's actually been a poor to marginal leader in the pros. He resisted attempts to improve his mechanics, has acted like the starting job is his by birth, repeatedly refused to get in better shape until this year...when he saw the handwriting on the wall, and divided the lockerroom from the moment that Garrard began to challenge him. For all of the second guessing that goes on around here I think we can all agree that Marvin's 1st draft was a franchise defining moment, and he made he right call. One that so many Bengal fans wouldn't have made. I'm just saying... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairOnFire Posted August 31, 2007 Report Share Posted August 31, 2007 Leadership was definitely a question mark for Palmer coming out of college. And I seem to recall some really stupid "brain type analysis" thing that was done by some alleged expert that boiled down to Carson being a wussy boy...or something like that I'll see if I can find it. Obviously it ended up not being an issue. The trash barrel crack on the other thread is an in-joke for Hair and any other posters who were on the huddles board back then... Loved the trash barrel crack. In fact it's almost enough to make me want to forgive you for your crazed rant in the Rucker thread. And I do recall the brain doctor. Seems to me his analysis predicted that Palmer would either bust outright, do in part to an inability to improvise on broken plays, OR would become one of the all-time greatest players in NFL history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGrizzlyBaer Posted August 31, 2007 Report Share Posted August 31, 2007 BTW, not to get totally off topic but,Being stuck here in Nebraska and being a long suffering Indiana (alum) Football and Basketball fan, how are things looking for IU? Any hope that they can get to a bowl game this year, I mean it has only been since I was in school ('93 I think) since we had a winning record.not good at all but this is coming from a boilermaker. actually i have no idea how that football team will do. as for basketball you may have eric gordon but we have a great class coming in too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC_Bengals_Fan Posted September 1, 2007 Report Share Posted September 1, 2007 And I do recall the brain doctor. Seems to me his analysis predicted that Palmer would either bust outright, do in part to an inability to improvise on broken plays, OR would become one of the all-time greatest players in NFL history.Yeah, love that quackery. You know what I want my QB to do on a broken play? Get outside the tackles and throw the ball out of bounds.I bet that's what Pete Carroll told him to do too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalszoneBilly Posted September 1, 2007 Report Share Posted September 1, 2007 On a related note, anyone who favored Byron Leftwich over Carson Palmer needs to check themselves right now. Find a sword and throw yourself upon it.The problem is actually finding people who'll admit to that. Good God, how could you possibly even consider such a thing. EVER!?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoePong Posted September 1, 2007 Report Share Posted September 1, 2007 On a related note, anyone who favored Byron Leftwich over Carson Palmer needs to check themselves right now. Find a sword and throw yourself upon it.The problem is actually finding people who'll admit to that. Good God, how could you possibly even consider such a thing. EVER!?!It was really fun to watch Carson's last few games at USC knowing that he would be our future QB. It was pretty exciting to watch. So I had no doubt he was the clear cut choice, but I do remember some people pimping Leftwich over Palmer. Funny stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted September 1, 2007 Report Share Posted September 1, 2007 Leftwich is neither old nor washed up.Why would we want him here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted September 1, 2007 Report Share Posted September 1, 2007 Leftwich is neither old nor washed up.Why would we want him here?Given the injuries we have at DB and the fact Tab is the No. 3 WR...well, to play safety, of course... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted September 1, 2007 Report Share Posted September 1, 2007 Leftwich is neither old nor washed up.Why would we want him here?Given the injuries we have at DB and the fact Tab is the No. 3 WR...well, to play safety, of course... Maybe he could handle kickoffs too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlainThePain Posted September 1, 2007 Report Share Posted September 1, 2007 I can remember even after the 2004 season, a lot of ESPN pundits were still picking Leftwich as the better of the two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalszoneBilly Posted September 1, 2007 Report Share Posted September 1, 2007 I can remember even after the 2004 season, a lot of ESPN pundits were still picking Leftwich as the better of the two.Is "Pundits" another name for crack addicts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengalsfansince68 Posted September 1, 2007 Report Share Posted September 1, 2007 Is "Pundits" another name for crack addicts?Somebody ask Kirk about this...Oh, sorry...Josh wanted Kitna, and a lot of you agreed at that time.Hindsight is a wonderful thing.At least Kirk had the facility to admit how horribly wrong his thinking was.Luv ya, Josh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsbengalsbucks Posted September 1, 2007 Report Share Posted September 1, 2007 BTW, not to get totally off topic but,Being stuck here in Nebraska and being a long suffering Indiana (alum) Football and Basketball fan, how are things looking for IU? Any hope that they can get to a bowl game this year, I mean it has only been since I was in school ('93 I think) since we had a winning record.Hoeppner really had them heading in the right direction, if the new coach can build on his work, a bowl game is not out of reach this season. James Hardy is a monster at WR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cincy9275 Posted September 1, 2007 Report Share Posted September 1, 2007 i wanted palmer the whole time i felt that he was head and shoulders above the rest of the qb's. when he started that for the first time against the jets i new he was going to be a good one , but when he went 29-36 for 382 yards 3 td's and 1int against the ravens in that 27 -26 come back win i new he was going to be special.as for byron i would love to bring him here as our #2 i think it would be better for byron in the long run if he did come here just to be able to learn from zampesse who is one of the better or if not the best with devolping qb's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairOnFire Posted September 1, 2007 Report Share Posted September 1, 2007 Leftwich is neither old nor washed up.Why would we want him here? Old and washed up are just two legs of a stool. The critical third leg that allows the stool to stand is laziness, and Leftwich practically defines that quality. For example, since being drafted he's never improved his technique and still boasts one of the longest passing windups in history. Plus, his always laughable footwork remains unchanged and has produced some of the funniest NFL bloopers in recent memory. Finally, he refused for years to get in shape, and dropped 30 lbs this season only when it became clear that the Jags were tiring of his act. Byron Lazywich? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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