BengalszoneBilly Posted August 22, 2007 Report Share Posted August 22, 2007 Except for his predictions of who Cincinnati picks up off the waiver wire. I doubt they'll go CB before LB, but hey...that's just IMHO!. From The Dayton Daily News.Orange and Black in '07: How is Bengals' season shaping up?By Chick LudwigStaff Writer - Monday, August 20, 2007 NFL rosters will be trimmed to 75 on Aug. 28, then get sliced to 53 on Sept. 1 — "Cutdown Day."With 21 days remaining until Cincinnati's 2007 NFL opener against the visiting Baltimore Ravens, it's time to take a look at how the Bengals' 53-man roster shapes up.But first thing's first. Please allow me to step out on a limb with ...Five bold predictions1. QB Carson Palmer will keep the momentum going by throwing for 4,000 yards for a second straight year to go with 36 TD passes and 18 interceptions. He deserves mention in the same breath with Peyton Manning and Tom Brady.2. WR Chris Henry's eight-game suspension will be devastating, causing the Bengals to lose at least three games. No other candidate for the No. 3 receiver role can approach Henry's talent.3.Rookie first-round draft pick Leon Hall will replace Deltha O'Neal as the starting left cornerback by Game 5. Hall's coverage technique, ball skill and toughness in run support are exceptional. O'Neal's contract runs through 2008, but he'll be gone after 2007.4. The 30th-ranked defense will remain in the bottom third of the league because it's too inconsistent and lacks an identity. The line is too soft, the secondary is too young and the linebacker corps is too unstable.5. Before the Sept. 10 opener, the Bengals will pluck a receiver, tailback and cornerback off the waiver wire.Ludwig's mock 53-man rosterQuarterbacks (2): Carson Palmer, Jeff Rowe. In his limited opportunities, Rowe has shown more ability, poise and savvy than Doug Johnson.Running backs (4): Rudi Johnson, Kenny Watson, Jeremi Johnson, Chris Manderino. The club needs Manderino, a sturdy Golden Bear from Cal, as a bridge until Jeremi Johnson's hamstring is fully healed.Wide receivers (6): Chad Johnson, T.J. Houshmandzadeh, Tab Perry, Reggie McNeal, Glenn Holt, Skyler Green. McNeal and Green survive because of their kick-return ability. Holt, who has a pulled hamstring, deserves some slack because he's a proven winner on special teams. Antonio Chatman can't stay healthy and Bennie Brazell doesn't stick because he's a fragile, one-dimensional speed receiver with questionable hands.Tight ends (2): Reggie Kelly, Nate Lawrie. Nicknamed "Senator" because he holds a political science degree from Yale, Lawrie has more experience than upstart rookie Daniel Coats.Offensive linemen (10): Levi Jones, Stacy Andrews, Eric Ghiaciuc, Bobbie Williams, Willie Anderson, Andrew Whitworth, Scott Kooistra, Nate Livings, Dan Santucci, Adam Kieft. Kieft's comeback from a devastating knee injury in 2005 is one of the team's feel-good stories.Defensive linemen (9): Bryan Robinson, Domata Peko, John Thornton, Justin Smith, Robert Geathers, Michael Myers, Jonathan Fanene, Kenderick Allen, Matt Toeaina. It's time to send injury-riddled Frostee Rucker packing.Linebackers (7): Rashad Jeanty, Ahmad Brooks, Landon Johnson, Andre Frazier, Ed Hartwell, Caleb Miller, *Eric Henderson. Don't be surprised if Hartwell beats out Brooks as the starting middle linebacker.Secondary (10): Deltha O'Neal, Johnathan Joseph, Dexter Jackson, Madieu Williams, Leon Hall, Chinedum Ndukwe, Marvin White, John Busing, Herana-Daze Jones, Ethan Kilmer. Where's Keiwan Ratliff? Long gone.Specialists (3): Kicker Shayne Graham, punter Kyle Larson and long snapper Brad St. Louis. The "Three Amigos" live.Practice squad (8): TE Daniel Coats, LB Matt Muncy, OT Alan Reuber, TB Curtis Brown, FB Stan White, LB Earl Everett, CB T.J. Wright, DE Xzavie Jackson.*Note: If Henderson (wrist) goes on Injured Reserve, the club should keep CB Brandon Williams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC_Bengals_Fan Posted August 22, 2007 Report Share Posted August 22, 2007 2. WR Chris Henry's eight-game suspension will be devastating, causing the Bengals to lose at least three games. No other candidate for the No. 3 receiver role can approach Henry's talent.How does he mean that - that the Bengals will be 5-3 or worse over their first 8, or that Chris' absence will cause them to lose 3 games they otherwise wouldn't have? The first could be reasonable, but the second is insane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Tigere Posted August 22, 2007 Report Share Posted August 22, 2007 MY mock 53-man rosterQuarterbacks (2): Carson Palmer, Jeff RoweRunning backs (4): Rudi Johnson, Chris Perry, Kenny Watson, Jeremi Johnson [ Chris will be back around week 3 or 4]Wide receivers (6): Chad Johnson, T.J. Houshmandzadeh, Tab Perry, Glenn Holt, Skyler Green, Bennie Brazell Tight ends (3): Reggie Kelly, Daniel Coats, Nate LawrieOffensive linemen (9): Levi Jones, Stacy Andrews, Eric Ghiaciuc, Bobbie Williams, Willie Anderson, Andrew Whitworth, Scott Kooistra, Adam Kieft, Alex StepanovichDefensive linemen (9): Domata Peko, John Thornton, Justin Smith, Robert Geathers, Michael Myers, Jonathan Fanene, Kenderick Allen, Matt Toeaina, Frostee RuckerLinebackers (7): Rashad Jeanty, Ahmad Brooks, Landon Johnson, Andre Frazier, Ed Hartwell, Caleb Miller, LB Earl EverettSecondary (10): Deltha O'Neal, Johnathan Joseph, Dexter Jackson, Madieu Williams, Leon Hall, Chinedum Ndukwe, Marvin White, Herana-Daze Jones, Ethan Kilmer, Keiwan Ratliff.Specialists (3): Kicker Shayne Graham, punter Kyle Larson and long snapper Brad St. Louis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShulaSteakhouse Posted August 22, 2007 Report Share Posted August 22, 2007 Why do people think Brazelle will make it? If Holt gets healthy for a couple of weeks and plays in the last two preseason games - I think he makes the cut and Brazell is on the PS again.I also think they'll struggle, depending how injuries shake out, the first half, maybe going .500. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThortonMelon Posted August 22, 2007 Report Share Posted August 22, 2007 Chick's predictions dont make any sense. On one hand he paints the picture that Henry's absence will be devastating to the offense, then he predicts that Carson throws for over 4000 yds with 36 TDs. How devastating could the loss of Henry be if Carson is throwing for more TDs than any QB has since the 2004 season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted August 22, 2007 Report Share Posted August 22, 2007 Chick's predictions dont make any sense. On one hand he paints the picture that Henry's absence will be devastating to the offense, then he predicts that Carson throws for over 4000 yds with 36 TDs. How devastating could the loss of Henry be if Carson is throwing for more TDs than any QB has since the 2004 season?Good freaking question. He let the homer in him out for one sentence, and then in the next he forced himself to be more objective than is sane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoePong Posted August 22, 2007 Report Share Posted August 22, 2007 First of all, there is NO WAY we will only keep 3 CBs while we carry 7 safeties. Yeah, I know Madieu can line up there if needed and maybe Kilmer has practiced there some, but that would be insane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairOnFire Posted August 22, 2007 Report Share Posted August 22, 2007 I stopped reading when he predicted the Bengals would keep two FB's on the 53-man roster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derekshank Posted August 22, 2007 Report Share Posted August 22, 2007 Chick's predictions dont make any sense. On one hand he paints the picture that Henry's absence will be devastating to the offense, then he predicts that Carson throws for over 4000 yds with 36 TDs. How devastating could the loss of Henry be if Carson is throwing for more TDs than any QB has since the 2004 season?Good freaking question. He let the homer in him out for one sentence, and then in the next he forced himself to be more objective than is sane.That assumes that betting on Carson having another pro-bowl season is being a homer? Not likely. First of all... Henry should be there for the final 8 games, giving Palmer another WR to pad his stats with... against inferior competition (look at those last 8 games - SOFT). Palmer will again have cartoonish numbers.Secondly, while Henry isn't a staple on the offense, he's a far better #3 than almost any other NFL team has. He creates a ton of mismatches when he's out there. His absence means a less explosive offense, which in turn means more pressure on the defense. I don't think it is unreasonable to think that Henry being gone is enough to turn a win into a loss against some of the better teams in the first 8 games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairOnFire Posted August 22, 2007 Report Share Posted August 22, 2007 Chick's predictions dont make any sense. On one hand he paints the picture that Henry's absence will be devastating to the offense, then he predicts that Carson throws for over 4000 yds with 36 TDs. How devastating could the loss of Henry be if Carson is throwing for more TDs than any QB has since the 2004 season? Here's a question. How good can Palmer be? The reason I ask is because Palmer has claimed that one of his individual goals for this season is to break the NFL's all-time passing record for completion percentage...currently held by Kenny Anderson. Old news I know, but on NFL Live several weeks ago they unanimously agreed that Palmer has the ability to reach his goal and based upon Palmer's old yards per completion numbers a 72% completion percentage might result in...... 4,600 yards and 40 TD's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted August 22, 2007 Report Share Posted August 22, 2007 Chick's predictions dont make any sense. On one hand he paints the picture that Henry's absence will be devastating to the offense, then he predicts that Carson throws for over 4000 yds with 36 TDs. How devastating could the loss of Henry be if Carson is throwing for more TDs than any QB has since the 2004 season?Good freaking question. He let the homer in him out for one sentence, and then in the next he forced himself to be more objective than is sane.That assumes that betting on Carson having another pro-bowl season is being a homer? Not likely. First of all... Henry should be there for the final 8 games, giving Palmer another WR to pad his stats with... against inferior competition (look at those last 8 games - SOFT). Palmer will again have cartoonish numbers.Secondly, while Henry isn't a staple on the offense, he's a far better #3 than almost any other NFL team has. He creates a ton of mismatches when he's out there. His absence means a less explosive offense, which in turn means more pressure on the defense. I don't think it is unreasonable to think that Henry being gone is enough to turn a win into a loss against some of the better teams in the first 8 games.I didn't intend for the word "homer" to be taken negatively. I could see Palmer throwing 36 TDs, though it'd surprise me. Still, if he gets that many, then I'd have to assume the 3rd receiver had a good first half in Henry's stead. The two predictions don't fit together, IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted August 22, 2007 Report Share Posted August 22, 2007 didn't they cut Jeff rowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted August 22, 2007 Report Share Posted August 22, 2007 didn't they cut Jeff roweWrong Jeff. Smith, not Rowe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalszoneBilly Posted August 23, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 didn't they cut Jeff roweWrong Jeff. Smith, not Rowe.C'mon. They're not going to cut Rowe. He performed as expected, if not better. I say better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 I stopped reading when he predicted the Bengals would keep two FB's on the 53-man roster.Didn't we do this for a short time when our RB's were banged up and Hasn't JJ been banged up? I don't see us carrying 2 FB's but it could happen./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GapControl Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 I stopped reading when he predicted the Bengals would keep two FB's on the 53-man roster.Didn't we do this for a short time when our RB's were banged up and Hasn't JJ been banged up? I don't see us carrying 2 FB's but it could happen./Hmmmm... maybe someone was sharing time when Lorenzo Neal was here. I think it was JJ. I could be wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsbengalsbucks Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 I stopped reading when he predicted the Bengals would keep two FB's on the 53-man roster.Didn't we do this for a short time when our RB's were banged up and Hasn't JJ been banged up? I don't see us carrying 2 FB's but it could happen./Hmmmm... maybe someone was sharing time when Lorenzo Neal was here. I think it was JJ. I could be wrong.I think they drafted JJ the year after Neal burned his bridges here, by saying he would not play in Cinci again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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