schnarfer Posted March 3, 2007 Report Share Posted March 3, 2007 Since the beginning of the free agency era, the bengals have never been able to attract high profile players. When your biggest free agent signing in the past 10 years is Sam Adams you have problems. This offseason will be no exception. We will get a mediocre linebacker and maybe a decent DT but I would not hold your breath to see any real talent land in cincinnati. Here's to the draft!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRUNKJUICE Posted March 3, 2007 Report Share Posted March 3, 2007 Personally I don't care this year, there's nobody I really wanted out there we had to have. I would be nice to get Daniel Graham but we don't need him. The only person out there I would like to keep is Eric Steinbach but I think it's smart not to pay him the kinda money he's gonna get. I think we need to figure out a way to get a 3rd round draft pick, or another 1st or 2nd rounder because this is a deep draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James_Brooks21 Posted March 3, 2007 Report Share Posted March 3, 2007 Since the beginning of the free agency era, the bengals have never been able to attract high profile players. When your biggest free agent signing in the past 10 years is Sam Adams you have problems. This offseason will be no exception. We will get a mediocre linebacker and maybe a decent DT but I would not hold your breath to see any real talent land in cincinnati. Here's to the draft!!It's not that they don't attract free agency, they are not willing to shell out any money. I will give the Bengals some credit they know how to manipulate the hell out of Bengals fans by using the media. When they signed Nate Webster they really had me believing that he was the next Ray Lewis, please he was garbage all the way up into he got hurt. The Bengals pick up people that nobody else wants in the NFL, they are waiting to see who will be left two weeks from now and they will go after that guy and swear that he is a gem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted March 3, 2007 Report Share Posted March 3, 2007 There is one free agent I hope the Bengals pursue very seriously.Reggie Kelly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgilgris Posted March 3, 2007 Report Share Posted March 3, 2007 I bet we dont even get a lb or a DT but a backup QB. I am willing to make another bet that it will be tim rattay, since there are so many Free agent QB's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrod382 Posted March 3, 2007 Report Share Posted March 3, 2007 All I hear is whining.Everyone was PO'd in '05 when we wouldn't up the money for Kendrell Bell/Ed Hartwell/Jamie Sharper (I know some of you are saying "who?", that's my point exactly).Tell me what impact FA's in the past 3 years you wish the Bengals would've signed that they didn't....EDIT: Pat Williams right now is the only one that comes to mind (we were tight on cap at the time), Sapp wasn't really productive until last year and I think he was using us to get more money out of Oakland all along. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CantStop85 Posted March 3, 2007 Report Share Posted March 3, 2007 Corey Simon, LaVar Arrington, Adam Archuleta...Good picks, dont'cha think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengalsfansince68 Posted March 3, 2007 Report Share Posted March 3, 2007 Free Agency sucks.The draft is the way to build a football team.The Bengals are going about it the right way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC_Bengals_Fan Posted March 3, 2007 Report Share Posted March 3, 2007 Since the beginning of the free agency era, the bengals have never been able to attract high profile players. When your biggest free agent signing in the past 10 years is Sam Adams you have problems. This offseason will be no exception. We will get a mediocre linebacker and maybe a decent DT but I would not hold your breath to see any real talent land in cincinnati. Here's to the draft!!Teams don't generally fill major holes through free agency. It's just not the model for winning in the NFL. Teams that win super bowls do it by drafting well and picking up cheap role players in FA who fit well in the system.I'm really not complaining that we didn't get in the $80 million Nate Clements derby. Or, sadly, even the nearly $50M Steinbach derby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted March 3, 2007 Report Share Posted March 3, 2007 Corey Simon, LaVar Arrington, Adam Archuleta...Good picks, dont'cha think?No. (if I'm misreading sarcasm, stone me as you please) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShulaSteakhouse Posted March 3, 2007 Report Share Posted March 3, 2007 All I hear is whining.Everyone was PO'd in '05 when we wouldn't up the money for Kendrell Bell/Ed Hartwell/Jamie Sharper (I know some of you are saying "who?", that's my point exactly).Tell me what impact FA's in the past 3 years you wish the Bengals would've signed that they didn't....EDIT: Pat Williams right now is the only one that comes to mind (we were tight on cap at the time), Sapp wasn't really productive until last year and I think he was using us to get more money out of Oakland all along. Yes, you are right, good Free Agent signings are a myth and don't exist. Draft picks are more reliable? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whur CHad At? Posted March 3, 2007 Report Share Posted March 3, 2007 Free Agency sucks.The draft is the way to build a football team.The Bengals are going about it the right way.Marvin has had 5 years to build this team. Every year he says the same thing and things really never work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted March 3, 2007 Report Share Posted March 3, 2007 Yes, you are right, good Free Agent signings are a myth and don't exist. Nah, Dexter Jackson looks like a pretty good signing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whur CHad At? Posted March 3, 2007 Report Share Posted March 3, 2007 Except for Jackson missing that wide open sack, yeah that was nice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James_Brooks21 Posted March 3, 2007 Report Share Posted March 3, 2007 All I hear is whining.Everyone was PO'd in '05 when we wouldn't up the money for Kendrell Bell/Ed Hartwell/Jamie Sharper (I know some of you are saying "who?", that's my point exactly).Tell me what impact FA's in the past 3 years you wish the Bengals would've signed that they didn't....EDIT: Pat Williams right now is the only one that comes to mind (we were tight on cap at the time), Sapp wasn't really productive until last year and I think he was using us to get more money out of Oakland all along.Sapp was playing out of position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairOnFire Posted March 3, 2007 Report Share Posted March 3, 2007 I will give the Bengals some credit they know how to manipulate the hell out of Bengals fans by using the media. When they signed Nate Webster they really had me believing that he was the next Ray Lewis, please he was garbage all the way up into he got hurt. Didn't Webster have something like 11 tackles in a little more than a half in the game he shredded his knee? And didn't that happen in the 2nd or 3rd game of the season? Not that it matters but are you using perfect hindsight to act like an idiot now or are you guilty of not giving Webster a chance before he was injured? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James_Brooks21 Posted March 3, 2007 Report Share Posted March 3, 2007 I will give the Bengals some credit they know how to manipulate the hell out of Bengals fans by using the media. When they signed Nate Webster they really had me believing that he was the next Ray Lewis, please he was garbage all the way up into he got hurt. Didn't Webster have something like 11 tackles in a little more than a half in the game he shredded his knee? And didn't that happen in the 2nd or 3rd game of the season? Not that it matters but are you using perfect hindsight to act like an idiot now or are you guilty of not giving Webster a chance before he was injured?Here we go with another genius at the helm, let's see the first game Nate Webster played in that yearCurtis Martin 29 carries- 196 yards, Nate Webster a total of three tackles that game, sounds like a winner when your middle linebacker has three tackles.Second game against Miami can't remember who the starting runningback was for Miami, but he damn sure got lucky that Ricky Williams was suspended for the year. Had 10 total tackes that game, better but what was the quality of the back he was tackling?Third game Jamal Lewis 18 carries for a total of 186 yards , he had seven total tackles that game and got hurt in the fourth quarter. Sounds like he was on his way to being one of the great one's to me.Nate did not have eleven tackles in not one game he played, your silly if you think he was going to get better that guy was undersized and should have been a career backup where he is relegated to now. Keep drinking the Marvin kool aid idiot on the second tier free agents that he brings to the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted March 3, 2007 Report Share Posted March 3, 2007 80 million for nate clements? 49 million for steinbach? Dude ill pass FA sucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crttylr Posted March 3, 2007 Report Share Posted March 3, 2007 Well forget about London Fletcher for LB, he is a new redskin, he signed I believe a 5 year deal with them, so he will prolly retire a 'Skin. And the deal is for 25 Mil over 5 years, thats 5 million a year, the Bengals could swing 5 million a year for him. Its looking more and more like the same old offense next season, and the same garbage d!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted March 3, 2007 Report Share Posted March 3, 2007 Well forget about London Fletcher for LB, he is a new redskin, he signed I believe a 5 year deal with them, so he will prolly retire a 'Skin. And the deal is for 25 Mil over 5 years, thats 5 million a year, the Bengals could swing 5 million a year for him. Its looking more and more like the same old offense next season, and the same garbage d!!!! Apparently Dan Snyder hasn't learned from his own mistakes. "But at least he's trying!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted March 3, 2007 Report Share Posted March 3, 2007 old offense next season, and the same garbage d!!!You think he would have made our defense good? LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirkendall Posted March 3, 2007 Report Share Posted March 3, 2007 All I hear is whining.That's what happens when the team finished 8-8 and has seen no noticeable improvements through one day of free agency and are, at least it seems, struggling to re-sign their depth guys. That also happens when multiple reports (media) give us multiple salary cap scenarios.80 million for nate clements? 49 million for steinbach? Dude ill pass FA sucks.This is a different FA year, IMHO. Contracts are going through the roof. The Bengals, from the looks of it, are taking the Cincinnati Reds road -- "holy crap, we ain't paying this much for a season of sky-rocketing deals". Who can blame them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjakq27 Posted March 3, 2007 Report Share Posted March 3, 2007 How many free agents really make that big of a difference to their new team? Maybe a player or two but largely you are getting a guy that someone else didn't want anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirkendall Posted March 3, 2007 Report Share Posted March 3, 2007 How many free agents really make that big of a difference to their new team? Maybe a player or two but largely you are getting a guy that someone else didn't want anymore.I think you're partially right. Teams get rid of players also because they believe they have someone better. It doesn't mean they are worthless or unwanted. A player that might not be as good one team might be a super-star on another. Of course, this theory doesn't apply to the Bengals and Brian Simmons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted March 3, 2007 Report Share Posted March 3, 2007 80 million for nate clements? 49 million for steinbach? Dude ill pass FA sucks.This is a different FA year, IMHO. Contracts are going through the roof. The Bengals, from the looks of it, are taking the Cincinnati Reds road -- "holy crap, we ain't paying this much for a season of sky-rocketing deals". Who can blame them?I dont know that FA is any different this year. Yes, the numbers are bigger, but they are always bigger. And for all the talk about "the Bengals paying, or not paying," remember the money really isn't the Bengals', or any other teams' money really "their" money, not in the same way the money in your pocket is yours. The teams must spend it, at least $96m of it each, on players. They can't spend it on bubbles or stadium improvements or anything else. It's all one big pool of dough, mostly earned through broadcast, cable and satellite rights, that teams simply distribute to players -- and must by contract distribute to players -- each year. The real question is, do they spend it well? And in FA, my answer is no. They always seem a step behind (like this year's apparent wishin'/hopin'/prayin' that no one will give big bucks to Kelly) or to get caught misjudging the market (like the way they got burnt with Graham and ended up having to match a big deal). Maybe things will be different this year, it's only day two. We'll see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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