Kazkal Posted February 12, 2007 Report Share Posted February 12, 2007 Bengals | O'Neal could get cutSun, 11 Feb 2007 11:14:35 -0800John Clayton, of ESPN.com, reports Cincinnati Bengals CB Deltha O'Neal could get cut this offseason.From kffl.comI wonder if john clayton was smoking out of a crack pipe with a bengal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spain Posted February 12, 2007 Report Share Posted February 12, 2007 He must have a rewason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJJackson Posted February 12, 2007 Report Share Posted February 12, 2007 actually, this is a very definite possibility.first, he was another of the arrested playerssecond, his play level dropped tremendously over last year's performancethird, his cap numbr is relatively small - we traded for him, and so the Broncos ate the signing bonus portion, all we had was salaryfinally, I keep hearing word (Nothing confirmed, all vague and not detailed, sorry) that his head is not in the game anymore, and he has started to let himself go physically as a result.So it'd still be a surprise to me if they let him go anytime soon, but it would not be (imho) the shocker the original poster seems to feel it would be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoDeyForever Posted February 12, 2007 Report Share Posted February 12, 2007 actually, this is a very definite possibility.first, he was another of the arrested playerssecond, his play level dropped tremendously over last year's performancethird, his cap numbr is relatively small - we traded for him, and so the Broncos ate the signing bonus portion, all we had was salaryfinally, I keep hearing word (Nothing confirmed, all vague and not detailed, sorry) that his head is not in the game anymore, and he has started to let himself go physically as a result.So it'd still be a surprise to me if they let him go anytime soon, but it would not be (imho) the shocker the original poster seems to feel it would beAgreed. He got very lucky 2 years ago when he got all those ints..Last year he pretty much sucked when he played..Wasn't that great..JoJo is by far our best corner already I bet we sign a corner in Free Agency and draft another Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted February 12, 2007 Report Share Posted February 12, 2007 Yeah, no news here. Deltha's deep in Marvin's doghouse. Still, I think he sticks. With James gone we're already thin at corner, and this draft's CB class is weak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurmanation Posted February 12, 2007 Report Share Posted February 12, 2007 Yeah, no news here. Deltha's deep in Marvin's doghouse. Still, I think he sticks. With James gone we're already thin at corner, and this draft's CB class is weak.first, Hands down Tory is the absolute worst..eveyrone knows this, like even when i play madden even thoguh hes 2nd best CB i drop his ass down the depth chart, second Deltha could easily be let go as well, his play this year was by far the worst ive seen of him in the past few years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted February 12, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2007 first, he was another of the arrested playerssecond, his play level dropped tremendously over last year's performanceOhnoes he was barley over the limit,he was also dinged up all year.I could see him traded or knocked down to nickel but cut? I doubt it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted February 12, 2007 Report Share Posted February 12, 2007 second Deltha could easily be let go as well, his play this year was by far the worst ive seen of him in the past few years.Maybe, but there's no easy answer to replacing him. Joseph and Ratliff as starting CBs? Insert <shudder> here. Move Madieu? OK, now you have a hole at safety, and our go-to backup K2 is a UFA -- and with the year he just had will doubtless draw interest. A draft pick? OK, but it's not an impressive class, and we have needs all over the D. FA? Didn't you hear, we're maxxing out the Visa on Justin. No, at this point I'm in no rush to see Deltha head out.Now, forget all this Justin stuff and break the bank for Clements or Samuel and it's another story. Tho even then we're short of depth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CantStop85 Posted February 13, 2007 Report Share Posted February 13, 2007 third, his cap numbr is relatively small - we traded for him, and so the Broncos ate the signing bonus portion, all we had was salaryAll the more reason to keep him. We need him for depth if nothing else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schweinhart Posted February 13, 2007 Report Share Posted February 13, 2007 Too many ? on D to can him. But, if they did, at least the Bengals could still keep Greg Brooks and Rashad Bauman if they want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShulaSteakhouse Posted February 13, 2007 Report Share Posted February 13, 2007 IF he's cut, it will be for reasons we don't know everything about, and is related to his behavior, and affect on younger players.What's sad is that the guy is a great CB and a solid corner to have for years when he feels like it. His attitude and work ethic must be pretty bad if they do cut him. But I think there's a verbal "show me" clause going into spring camps with him.It will suck to have to spend another 1st round pick on a CB, and have it be a bit of a reach at that this year - think they have to get someone in FA there, if they can, and still draft someone on day one if Deltha falls out of favor completely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted February 13, 2007 Report Share Posted February 13, 2007 I honestly don't think there's any chance he'll be cut. As has been said, with Tory already an afterthought, we'll have to have someone playing corner next to Joseph. Despite his inconsistent 2006 season, I think O'Neal is a better option to start than any rookie would be (and certainly Keiwan Ratliff). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spain Posted February 13, 2007 Report Share Posted February 13, 2007 Is he the bad apple spoiling the group is the real ?, why cant these guys learn to leave their stash at home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whur CHad At? Posted February 13, 2007 Report Share Posted February 13, 2007 actually, this is a very definite possibility.first, he was another of the arrested playerssecond, his play level dropped tremendously over last year's performancethird, his cap numbr is relatively small - we traded for him, and so the Broncos ate the signing bonus portion, all we had was salaryfinally, I keep hearing word (Nothing confirmed, all vague and not detailed, sorry) that his head is not in the game anymore, and he has started to let himself go physically as a result.So it'd still be a surprise to me if they let him go anytime soon, but it would not be (imho) the shocker the original poster seems to feel it would be Agreed with TJ here. We need to make a statement, and cut this overrated player. He one of the reasons we had problems last year(taking the DB's out to lunch instead of eating with the team) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted February 13, 2007 Report Share Posted February 13, 2007 Agreed with TJ here. We need to make a statement, and cut this overrated player. He one of the reasons we had problems last year(taking the DB's out to lunch instead of eating with the team)I just don't buy the idea that it's Deltha's fault Joseph was caught with weed in his car. If Joseph smokes, I'm sure he did so well before he met any Bengals players.I don't see any problems with the CBs hanging out, even if apart from the rest of the team during "lunch time." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted February 13, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2007 Perk for Joseph is he was smart and not driving and since he pled not guilty I'm guessing his GF will take ownership to the bag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirkendall Posted February 13, 2007 Report Share Posted February 13, 2007 actually, this is a very definite possibility.first, he was another of the arrested playerssecond, his play level dropped tremendously over last year's performancethird, his cap numbr is relatively small - we traded for him, and so the Broncos ate the signing bonus portion, all we had was salaryfinally, I keep hearing word (Nothing confirmed, all vague and not detailed, sorry) that his head is not in the game anymore, and he has started to let himself go physically as a result.So it'd still be a surprise to me if they let him go anytime soon, but it would not be (imho) the shocker the original poster seems to feel it would beI was about ready to post, then I saw this one.Not only do I think he'll be cut. But I think he should and the Bengals draft CB in the first round. Is it possible we could have two competent CBs on the field....... at the same time? I'm giddy with joy while I would totally volunteer to drive him anywhere outside the 5-1-3.TDB, I agree with you. But I believe Whur CHad At?'s point is more reflective of losing his attitude to those two that could be what Palmer, Anderson and Thornton were referring to with "selfish" attitudes. I do fear this locker-room is close to being split. Getting O'Neal and James out of here could help, if not totally, remove that speculation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted February 13, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2007 Demote him if anything but do you feel safe with keiwan and a green rookie corner starting?Jjoe wasen't rushed in to starting which helped alot imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirkendall Posted February 13, 2007 Report Share Posted February 13, 2007 Demote him if anything but do you feel safe with keiwan and a green rookie corner starting?Jjoe wasen't rushed in to starting which helped alot imoI would say demote Ratliff to dime, but I think some players on the team would totally misinterpret that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spain Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 If he is the ring leader then he has to go! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derekshank Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 Demote him if anything but do you feel safe with keiwan and a green rookie corner starting?Jjoe wasen't rushed in to starting which helped alot imoI guess it depends on your perspective. I'd rather have a less talented guy, or a less experienced guy over a disinterested guy. But that's just me. If Deltha gets his act together, fine... but I think we're starting to see why the Broncos were so willing to part ways with him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted February 14, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 "trys to find trade oneal tread"well if were gonna can him lets try get something out of it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whur CHad At? Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 We won't get anything out of him. Time to can him, it won't cost us jack to do it either. One Player we need to cut is John Thorton. THe man is really incosistant and would free up some cap space Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 We won't get anything out of him. Time to can him, it won't cost us jack to do it either. One Player we need to cut is John Thorton. THe man is really incosistant and would free up some cap spaceSo we can spend it all on FAs? Who do we have at DT to replace Thornton immediately? Peko is Fat Sam's backup, and Shaun Smith would be a very big question mark. Do we have a corner to replace O'Neal immediately? We could obviously pursue Clements or Samuel with the Thornton money, but they'd be question marks too (just like any FA acquisition).If there's one thing this defense has never had under Marvin, it's continuity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirkendall Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 Who do we have at DT to replace Thornton immediately? Peko is Fat Sam's backup, and Shaun Smith would be a very big question mark. Do we have a corner to replace O'Neal immediately? We could obviously pursue Clements or Samuel with the Thornton moneyWhether or not we could, we know we won't. Build within.If there's one thing this defense has never had under Marvin, it's continuity.We give up a s**t load of points all the time. We definitely have continuity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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