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actually, this is a very definite possibility.

first, he was another of the arrested players

second, his play level dropped tremendously over last year's performance

third, his cap numbr is relatively small - we traded for him, and so the Broncos ate the signing bonus portion, all we had was salary

finally, I keep hearing word (Nothing confirmed, all vague and not detailed, sorry) that his head is not in the game anymore, and he has started to let himself go physically as a result.

So it'd still be a surprise to me if they let him go anytime soon, but it would not be (imho) the shocker the original poster seems to feel it would be

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actually, this is a very definite possibility.

first, he was another of the arrested players

second, his play level dropped tremendously over last year's performance

third, his cap numbr is relatively small - we traded for him, and so the Broncos ate the signing bonus portion, all we had was salary

finally, I keep hearing word (Nothing confirmed, all vague and not detailed, sorry) that his head is not in the game anymore, and he has started to let himself go physically as a result.

So it'd still be a surprise to me if they let him go anytime soon, but it would not be (imho) the shocker the original poster seems to feel it would be

Agreed. He got very lucky 2 years ago when he got all those ints..Last year he pretty much sucked when he played..Wasn't that great..JoJo is by far our best corner already B) I bet we sign a corner in Free Agency and draft another

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Yeah, no news here. Deltha's deep in Marvin's doghouse. Still, I think he sticks. With James gone we're already thin at corner, and this draft's CB class is weak.

first, Hands down Tory is the absolute worst..eveyrone knows this, like even when i play madden even thoguh hes 2nd best CB i drop his ass down the depth chart, second Deltha could easily be let go as well, his play this year was by far the worst ive seen of him in the past few years.

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second Deltha could easily be let go as well, his play this year was by far the worst ive seen of him in the past few years.

Maybe, but there's no easy answer to replacing him. Joseph and Ratliff as starting CBs? Insert <shudder> here. Move Madieu? OK, now you have a hole at safety, and our go-to backup K2 is a UFA -- and with the year he just had will doubtless draw interest. A draft pick? OK, but it's not an impressive class, and we have needs all over the D. FA? Didn't you hear, we're maxxing out the Visa on Justin. No, at this point I'm in no rush to see Deltha head out.

Now, forget all this Justin stuff and break the bank for Clements or Samuel and it's another story. Tho even then we're short of depth.

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third, his cap numbr is relatively small - we traded for him, and so the Broncos ate the signing bonus portion, all we had was salary

All the more reason to keep him. We need him for depth if nothing else.

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IF he's cut, it will be for reasons we don't know everything about, and is related to his behavior, and affect on younger players.

What's sad is that the guy is a great CB and a solid corner to have for years when he feels like it.

His attitude and work ethic must be pretty bad if they do cut him. But I think there's a verbal "show me" clause going into spring camps with him.

It will suck to have to spend another 1st round pick on a CB, and have it be a bit of a reach at that this year - think they have to get someone in FA there, if they can, and still draft someone on day one if Deltha falls out of favor completely.

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I honestly don't think there's any chance he'll be cut. As has been said, with Tory already an afterthought, we'll have to have someone playing corner next to Joseph. Despite his inconsistent 2006 season, I think O'Neal is a better option to start than any rookie would be (and certainly Keiwan Ratliff).

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actually, this is a very definite possibility.

first, he was another of the arrested players

second, his play level dropped tremendously over last year's performance

third, his cap numbr is relatively small - we traded for him, and so the Broncos ate the signing bonus portion, all we had was salary

finally, I keep hearing word (Nothing confirmed, all vague and not detailed, sorry) that his head is not in the game anymore, and he has started to let himself go physically as a result.

So it'd still be a surprise to me if they let him go anytime soon, but it would not be (imho) the shocker the original poster seems to feel it would be

Agreed with TJ here. We need to make a statement, and cut this overrated player. He one of the reasons we had problems last year(taking the DB's out to lunch instead of eating with the team)

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Agreed with TJ here. We need to make a statement, and cut this overrated player. He one of the reasons we had problems last year(taking the DB's out to lunch instead of eating with the team)

I just don't buy the idea that it's Deltha's fault Joseph was caught with weed in his car. If Joseph smokes, I'm sure he did so well before he met any Bengals players.

I don't see any problems with the CBs hanging out, even if apart from the rest of the team during "lunch time."

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actually, this is a very definite possibility.

first, he was another of the arrested players

second, his play level dropped tremendously over last year's performance

third, his cap numbr is relatively small - we traded for him, and so the Broncos ate the signing bonus portion, all we had was salary

finally, I keep hearing word (Nothing confirmed, all vague and not detailed, sorry) that his head is not in the game anymore, and he has started to let himself go physically as a result.

So it'd still be a surprise to me if they let him go anytime soon, but it would not be (imho) the shocker the original poster seems to feel it would be

I was about ready to post, then I saw this one.

Not only do I think he'll be cut. But I think he should and the Bengals draft CB in the first round. Is it possible we could have two competent CBs on the field....... at the same time? I'm giddy with joy while I would totally volunteer to drive him anywhere outside the 5-1-3.

TDB, I agree with you. But I believe Whur CHad At?'s point is more reflective of losing his attitude to those two that could be what Palmer, Anderson and Thornton were referring to with "selfish" attitudes. I do fear this locker-room is close to being split. Getting O'Neal and James out of here could help, if not totally, remove that speculation.

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Demote him if anything but do you feel safe with keiwan and a green rookie corner starting?

Jjoe wasen't rushed in to starting which helped alot imo

I guess it depends on your perspective. I'd rather have a less talented guy, or a less experienced guy over a disinterested guy. But that's just me. If Deltha gets his act together, fine... but I think we're starting to see why the Broncos were so willing to part ways with him.

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We won't get anything out of him. Time to can him, it won't cost us jack to do it either. One Player we need to cut is John Thorton. THe man is really incosistant and would free up some cap space

So we can spend it all on FAs? :P

Who do we have at DT to replace Thornton immediately? Peko is Fat Sam's backup, and Shaun Smith would be a very big question mark. Do we have a corner to replace O'Neal immediately? We could obviously pursue Clements or Samuel with the Thornton money, but they'd be question marks too (just like any FA acquisition).

If there's one thing this defense has never had under Marvin, it's continuity.

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Who do we have at DT to replace Thornton immediately? Peko is Fat Sam's backup, and Shaun Smith would be a very big question mark. Do we have a corner to replace O'Neal immediately? We could obviously pursue Clements or Samuel with the Thornton money

Whether or not we could, we know we won't. Build within.

If there's one thing this defense has never had under Marvin, it's continuity.

We give up a s**t load of points all the time. We definitely have continuity. :lmao:

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