Marvin Lewis to the Cowboys? (PFT)

[CPalmer9]

MARVIN TO COWBOYS?

Though we've not recently heard this one on the NFL grapevine, there was talk in the past that Bengals coach Marvin Lewis could be a candidate to replace Bill Parcells, once Parcells packed it in.

With Parcells retiring on the same day that news broke of a ninth Bengals arrest, could the planets be lining up for Marvin to make an exit from Cincinnati?

Though we're not suggesting that the Bengals are trying to push him out the door via, for example, the publication on the franchise's web site of comments from quarterback Carson Palmer that implicitly and indirectly throw rocks at Marvin for the presence and performance of turds on the team, we think that maybe, just maybe, the powers-that-be in Cincy would be inclined to let Marvin go for a bag full of money and a draft pick or two (or just a bag full of money) if Dallas owner Jerry Jones were inclined to inquire.

Then again, maybe Jones won't want him. While guys like defensive tackle John Thornton (whom he like and respect) say, "I don't see what else Marvin can do," the answer isn't what he can do going forward, it's what he could have done when drafting and signing the players who are now embarrassing themselves and the organization.

As our own Taco Bill pointed out, four of the team's eight draft picks from last April have been arrested. And Lewis is the guy who is ultimately pulling the trigger on those picks.

Then again, Jones was the guy who signed -- and thereafter zealously defended -- Terrell Owens. So maybe Jones and Lewis have far more in common that anyone realizes.

[Stripes]

Augh, put a question mark in that title! I'll fix that.

Anyways, no way in hell.

[CPalmer9]

There is no way in hell I think it would happen. The headaches he has with both teams are just about the same. 9 arrests vs T.O. Its pretty much a toss up

[Stripes]

Not to mention I doubt Marvin would want Jones breathing down his neck on every little decision he makes.

[membengal]

What's the source on that?

Link, please.

[Stripes]

What's the source on that?

Link, please.

PFT.

http://www.profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm

[ShulaSteakhouse]

Yeah a lot of speculation there with nothing to back it up.

If Marvin can handle the Brown family, he can handle Jerry Jones certainly, and will get the leverage he needs to get the players he wants without skimping and cutting corners on defense - and will have a much better scouting department and resources.

I sense Marv has too much pride and job security here at the moment to leave - and furthermore I'm doubting Mike Brown would even allow him to interview for the position.

[Whur CHad At?]

No, one reason and it is only two letters long....

[jjakq27]

If you read down a bit further in the article it also mentions Lovie Smith and Jim Haslett as possible candidates for the Cowboys job.

[HairOnFire]

Great, another opportunity for certain posters here to defend the turd-like credibility of PFT.

Any takers this time?

If past history is any guide then this rumor will be followed up a few minutes later by a disclaimer, then repeated as if it were gospel, then discounted as lunacy, propped up yet again, and then at some point allowed to fade away....replaced by a downpour of cell phone ads.

While all of the above is occuring the PFT website will use satellite tracking systems during the week to trace the movements of Mike Brown's Chevy Lumina to exotic locations like Dayton, Springfield, a Crackle Barrel Restaraunt on I-70, and finally...Costa Rica.

[AMC]

Jerry Jones might test the collegiate ranks for a new coach, but it won't be at Oklahoma. Bob Stoops issued a statement Tuesday saying he isn't interested in any other coaching vacancies at this time.

-- Fort Worth Star-Telegram

[membengal]

Great, another opportunity for certain posters here to defend the turd-like credibility of PFT.

Any takers this time?

Unlikely. I thought we had reached an agreement that PFT sewage would be identified as such in the subject...

[Kazkal]

PFT also said marvin to the steelers last year.

The reason I like PFT is the pictures

Marvins has solved our problem

[bengal4life]

I heard on SC that Dallas is Lovie's favorite franchise and that it is very possible he can take that job since he already is taking the Bears to the big show.

[rishipatel]

MARVIN TO COWBOYS?

Though we've not recently heard this one on the NFL grapevine, there was talk in the past that Bengals coach Marvin Lewis could be a candidate to replace Bill Parcells, once Parcells packed it in.

With Parcells retiring on the same day that news broke of a ninth Bengals arrest, could the planets be lining up for Marvin to make an exit from Cincinnati?

Though we're not suggesting that the Bengals are trying to push him out the door via, for example, the publication on the franchise's web site of comments from quarterback Carson Palmer that implicitly and indirectly throw rocks at Marvin for the presence and performance of turds on the team, we think that maybe, just maybe, the powers-that-be in Cincy would be inclined to let Marvin go for a bag full of money and a draft pick or two (or just a bag full of money) if Dallas owner Jerry Jones were inclined to inquire.

Then again, maybe Jones won't want him. While guys like defensive tackle John Thornton (whom he like and respect) say, "I don't see what else Marvin can do," the answer isn't what he can do going forward, it's what he could have done when drafting and signing the players who are now embarrassing themselves and the organization.

As our own Taco Bill pointed out, four of the team's eight draft picks from last April have been arrested. And Lewis is the guy who is ultimately pulling the trigger on those picks.

Then again, Jones was the guy who signed -- and thereafter zealously defended -- Terrell Owens. So maybe Jones and Lewis have far more in common that anyone realizes.

Ignoring the fact that this rumor is completely absurd, is it really ML who ultimately "pulls the trigger" on draft day?

My understanding was that Mike Brown makes the final decision after they have all conferred and collectively come up with their draft board. This could be completely wrong, but that was how I thought it worked. Of course ML has very influential input, but I didn't think he was making the final say.

[Stripes]

Ignoring the fact that this rumor is completely absurd, is it really ML who ultimately "pulls the trigger" on draft day?

My understanding was that Mike Brown makes the final decision after they have all conferred and collectively come up with their draft board. This could be completely wrong, but that was how I thought it worked. Of course ML has very influential input, but I didn't think he was making the final say.

Mikey himself has been quoted saying something along the lines of "only a few times have we taken someone that wasn't one of Marvin's choices..."

[HairOnFire]

Bruce Coslet claimed that the only time Mike Brown made the final call was with Akili Smith. Brown was said to have been adamant about taking a QB 3rd overall due to the massive size of the contract, and his belief that no other position was worthy of that kind of money. Obviously that decision busted hard, but Coslet claimed it was the only time he didn't get the player he wanted. And it doesn't seem a coincidence that the last time Mike Brown seemed heavily involved in which player was selected was 1st overall pick, Carson Palmer.

Last, after Dick LeBeau was fired he admitted that Mike Brown had never interfered with a single draft pick, but admitted that there were several free agents that he wanted that Brown refused to pursue. And I'm guessing that is the normal way Mike Brown works with his head coaches. In short, unless you're dealing with a top 5 or top 10 pick the head coach can pick whatever players they want because the money is tied to the draft position and slotted accordingly. The overall cost isn't staggering, and the money paid is the same regardless of which player is picked. But free agency is far different, and in my opinion Brown seems to dictate almost every facet of the teams free agent strategy.

[jjakq27]

If this happens, does this mean that Paul Alexander will get his long awaited shot?

Seriously, I doubt that they would let Marvin interview for another HC job. He has HS aged kids so I suspect that he won't be going anywhere right now.

[Whur CHad At?]

One thing I have learned throughout this process is that media reporting over there in s**ttsburgh is one of the worse in the nation

[jditty47]

and pft is garbage.

[Spain]

What if?

[semiotter]

Oh great god of football, Lets hope you are not right on this one

[derekshank]

Seems like garbage to me... but there is a Cowboys fan I am friends with that is pretty excited about the rumor. I don't see anything coming out of this... but it's a pretty slow time non-criminal Bengal news... so I'll play.

The positive side of something like this happening would be that Marvin did what he came to do, which was change the culture from the perrenial losers mindset. Perhaps it would be safe to hand it over to a guy who is able to take the next step. However, we had also get some damn decent return. Oakland got something like two first-round draft choices, a two 2nd-round picks. I love Marvin... but that kind of offer would be hard to turn down.

The big negative side of this of course would come in trying to replace him. I very much doubt that there is currently anyone out there to sign this late in the game that could do anything more than keep the team's head above water. If I were Mike Brown, and I considered doing this, there would have to be some assurances that I'd be able to get my hands on a coach who could continue developing this team. Not a guy who is just desperate for a head coaching job, and was good enough to coach one of the other 31 teams. That's the part that would worry me about this fantasy.

[HoTbOy]

I don't think that the article has any merit, but the compensation is outstanding...I really don't want MLewis, to leave but I also did not want to see DLebeau leave either...

[BengalszoneBilly]

You know what? At this point I wouldn't be heartbroken if Marvin Lewis did go elsewhere to coach. I'm grateful for what he's accomplished here, but I'm not so sure his methods will be enough to take the team to the next level. That being said, I hope I'm wrong, because I really don't think he's going anywhere for at least the forseeable future.