jbengals1 Posted January 15, 2007 Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 AS I SAID YEAR AFTER YEAR SINCE BENGALZONE WAS STARTEDWE NEED A KILLER TETHIS WILL TAKE THE DOUBLE TEAMS OFF CHAD / RUDYAND KEEP THE APOSSING TEAM " HONEST "A PLAYER LIKE SHOCKEYI DONT CARE IF ITS FROM THE DRAFT I DONT CARE IF ITS FROM FAJUST GET HER DONE MARVEKEEP THIS THREAD GOING - I BET SOME PLAYERS / COACHES READ IT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurmanation Posted January 15, 2007 Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 I defn' agree with needing a much better TE, i doubt marvin and co will read this though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GapControl Posted January 15, 2007 Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 YEAH! You are RIGHT!!!! We need a Killer DE! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kentjett Posted January 15, 2007 Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 Daniel Graham Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
membengal Posted January 15, 2007 Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 KEEP THIS THREAD GOING - I BET SOME PLAYERS / COACHES READ ITIt's true. The Bengals don't make a move without checking with bengalszone first. That's why Tab Perry to safety is gonna happen any. minute. now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShulaSteakhouse Posted January 15, 2007 Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 Would love to have Graham, fy.As I watch Brady and Manning check-down constantly during these playoff games, I am reminded how important a big, athletic TE is to an offense. Hell the Pats use Watson and Graham like WR's.Brady always has a safe outlet, and takes that 5 year dump-off to avoid a 2nd or 3rd and long situation all day long and it helps keep them on the field.With the Bengals', half the time you get a 2 yard run, or an incomplete pass downfield, or a huge play - they really slacked off over the season in the short passing game tremendously to keep the ball moving. Their offense came woefully predictable and simplified.Just look at the TOP for the Bengals' vs opponents this year, and you'll see how badly Palmer needs a TE and/or a passing catching RB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted January 15, 2007 Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 If we can bring danial graham then do it...can keep reggie around for his experiance then tim day or ghent as a young guy...I just don't wanna see day 1 pick inless all defensive players left on board are crap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nechemia Posted January 15, 2007 Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 that would be nice, but can you imagine how good our offense would be with an explosive RB in the mold of Westbrook or Bush, guys that can RUN, not just barrel through the line for 3.8 yards per carry like Rudi Johnson. Lets face it, Rudi just isn't that good. When C.Perry has been healthy he has shown that potential but never gets the PT to show it off, hopefully this will be the year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jditty47 Posted January 15, 2007 Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 i would much rather have a killer safety. we do need another option other than reggie kelly though - graham would be perfect and make a huge impact, if we dont make a run for him, we better make one in the draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted January 15, 2007 Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 Seems like nobody cares about a good blocker anymore. Reggie Kelly is the man. The few times Palmer looks his way, he usually makes the catch. I wouldn't object to going after a pass receiving end to fill a Schobel type role, but I don't think we need one that badly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted January 15, 2007 Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 eems like nobody cares about a good blocker anymore. Reggie Kelly is the man. The few times Palmer looks his way, he usually makes the catch. I wouldn't object to going after a pass receiving end to fill a Schobel type role, but I don't think we need one that badly.No one cares? why do you think everyone is saying they want Danial Graham? who is a great blocking TE.I've also been saying I want him and reggie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted January 15, 2007 Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 eems like nobody cares about a good blocker anymore. Reggie Kelly is the man. The few times Palmer looks his way, he usually makes the catch. I wouldn't object to going after a pass receiving end to fill a Schobel type role, but I don't think we need one that badly.No one cares? why do you think everyone is saying they want Danial Graham? who is a great blocking TE.I've also been saying I want him and reggie Yeah, Graham would be a good pickup. I just get sick of seeing so many posts regarding drafting a new tight end with no regard for Kelly's contributions as if he's complete poop. You're not among them, though, so "nobody" was a poor choice of words on my part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted January 15, 2007 Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 I was a kelly hater but he's grown on me...plus him and graham would be great for running game /passblocking since both are great blockers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spain Posted January 15, 2007 Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 We need a runing back that can carry the team if Palmer is injured, which Rudi isnt. The mesage form the Master of football, footballismo Mister Spain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted January 15, 2007 Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 we should give up our 1st for turner! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spor_tees Posted January 16, 2007 Report Share Posted January 16, 2007 We have enough criminals on the team....no need for any killers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShulaSteakhouse Posted January 16, 2007 Report Share Posted January 16, 2007 Kelly isn't exactly an all-world blocker - all you need is a complete TE who is competent - there are plenty. It's not as if Kelly's so good that he can't be replaced with a suitable player.This whole thing has been beat to death, but, it's obvious they are looking at guys still (Day etc..,) so there's an interest in upgrading that position. I think it would probably also include an offensive philosophy change, and I'm not sure Paul Alexander could help orchestrate something that complicated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted January 16, 2007 Report Share Posted January 16, 2007 They seemed pretty set on Tab Perry taking up the "Schobel" role as a passing TE. I would expect them to try to keep Kelly and/or Stewart -- and I doubt either draws much interest in FA. So as far as TE is concerned I expect more of the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schroomytunes Posted January 16, 2007 Report Share Posted January 16, 2007 Why not use Tab Perry as the tight end, he has the size and the speed for that position, and it allows us to draft a WR late in the draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted January 16, 2007 Report Share Posted January 16, 2007 Ideal size? he weighed 210-215 at the start of this season...Tab is good as a no huddle TE where they can move him WR-TE-FB but I rather see his increase his roll at WR with Kdub gone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walshfan Posted January 16, 2007 Report Share Posted January 16, 2007 Kelly isn't exactly an all-world blocker - all you need is a complete TE who is competent - there are plenty. It's not as if Kelly's so good that he can't be replaced with a suitable player.This whole thing has been beat to death, but, it's obvious they are looking at guys still (Day etc..,) so there's an interest in upgrading that position. I think it would probably also include an offensive philosophy change, and I'm not sure Paul Alexander could help orchestrate something that complicated.On the contrary.. Kelly is actually one of the better blocking TE's in the NFL...Its one of the major reasons Palmer said he's one of the best teammates he's ever had and wants the team to re-sign him ....He didnt do a bad job of receiving when the ball was thrown his way either....I think Tony Stewart is expendable.. Nothing more than an adequate backup at best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted January 16, 2007 Report Share Posted January 16, 2007 you diden't hear carson saying we need resign steinbach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walshfan Posted January 16, 2007 Report Share Posted January 16, 2007 you diden't hear carson saying we need resign steinbach Ill probably catch flak for this but Ive never been a big Steinbach fan...Yes he is good at pulling..The rest of his game is adequate at best..He gets overpowered on passing plays once in awile and He isnt a great run blocker....I think he would have been better suited as a OT .....Im not a big advocate of guards over 6'4 at best... Its about leverage and if a tall guard doesnt stay low he lets opponents get under his pad level ....Whitworth may just have the strength to overcome that objective but I reallly think his forte would be as a RT.....Id like to see the Bengals draft Justin Blaylock.. 6'3 1/2" 330lb mauling guard .. Not gonna happen but with Blaylock at guard and Whitworth backing up Levi ( who could go down with bad knees again ) at least the Bengals have good depth on the Oline...If Steiney walks dont be too surprised if they pulled the trigger on Blaylock if he's on the board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schweinhart Posted January 16, 2007 Report Share Posted January 16, 2007 No doubt the Bengals should address the O-line in this draft but I hope it's Day 2. Doubt they'd look at Blalock, though, unless they're interested in Big Willie's replacement because Blalock looks much better suited to play the right side for an NFL team.I'd rather see them wait until the 4th, 5th and 6th and look at players like Tavo Tuploa as a LG backup who also looks like he'd be an improvement of Stacy the Giant as a backup RT, Joe Villani who can play both LG and C or Scott Stephenson who is a brawler and would probably win the starting center job plus be a backup LG if needed.TE wise, this probably ain't the draft to look for help but Jonny Harline might be tempting late if he's still there. Short of Graham in free agency, I wouldn't mind seeing them go after David Martin or Eric Johnson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregCook Posted January 16, 2007 Report Share Posted January 16, 2007 This team has all the hands it needs for Palmer passes. Everyone seems to have forgotten about Jeremi Johnson. He can run. He can block. He can catch and run. He's big. If all they have is fine blocking TE's, then how about throwing some love to JJ? Give the linebackers and DB's something else to worry about. 2 plays for him a game would definitely cause the defense heartburn. TE has to be a very low priority in this draft. Hey if they didn't draft one last year with all the NFL caliber studs, why would they do it this year?No doubt the Bengals should address the O-line in this draft but I hope it's Day 2. Doubt they'd look at Blalock, though, unless they're interested in Big Willie's replacement because Blalock looks much better suited to play the right side for an NFL team.I'd rather see them wait until the 4th, 5th and 6th and look at players like Tavo Tuploa as a LG backup who also looks like he'd be an improvement of Stacy the Giant as a backup RT, Joe Villani who can play both LG and C or Scott Stephenson who is a brawler and would probably win the starting center job plus be a backup LG if needed.TE wise, this probably ain't the draft to look for help but Jonny Harline might be tempting late if he's still there. Short of Graham in free agency, I wouldn't mind seeing them go after David Martin or Eric Johnson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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