dave Posted January 2, 2007 Report Share Posted January 2, 2007 Well said:http://frontier.cincinnati.com/blogs/daugh...-for-marvin.asphoneymoon's over for MarvinI'm a little tired of hearing about selfishness and responsibility and chemistry. Marvin started to sound like Huggins used to: I coached great, they didnt listen. The Bengals were next-to-last in the AFC in 3rd quarter point differential. That's a stat geek's number, but it reflects poorly on the staff's ability to change gears at halftime...They continued to overemphasize Rudi Johnson. Heavy Duty's a nice, complementary player, a straight-ahead plower who doesnt screw up often and comes to play every week. He isnt the focus of this team's attack. Or shouldnt be. Rudi had 100 yards against Indy and Denver. So?The play-calling got ridiculously predictable. 2nd-and-long, give the ball to Rudi. Carson changing the play, give the ball to Rudi. When Palmer was getting hammered routinely middle of the year, rarely a draw, screen or 3-step drop. Silly reverses to TJ and Chad, 3 yards a pop...Speaking of Chad, he's the obvious target of the "selfish'' sniping. Just stop. How about this: Cover someone. Tackle someone. Hit someone in the numbers with a pass before the 4th quarter. Make an extra point. Stop with the false starts in Week 17. Chad is selfish, though. That explains 8-8.Stop taking chances on guys with a history. Stop saying it doesnt affect the team. Stop thinking you're a good enough coach to overcome that. You're not. Develop a better relationship with the media, who are your conduit to the public, like it or not. Ease off the condescension. You've had it easy here for 4 years. Next year will be different. You might need your friends in the press. Next year's the swing year for this coach and this franchise. 8-8 won't make it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted January 2, 2007 Report Share Posted January 2, 2007 I can agree with most of that, except for the second paragraph about Rudi. Rudi had a whopping 4 more carries in 2006 than he did in '05. I don't see the overemphasis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShulaSteakhouse Posted January 2, 2007 Report Share Posted January 2, 2007 Yep I pretty much agree with everything Daughtery says - most of which is blatantly obvious to everyone other than Marvin Lewis apparently for some reason.I think the "over-emphasis" is not getting another RB (Watson or Wilson in this case) more involved, or giving them a chance to do something Rudi hasn't for a long time - break more big plays and make something out of nothing when it requires making someone miss (something Rudi can't really do - he either runs over them or gets stuffed).I have loved Rudi for the most part, but I would like to see more of a Colts-style offense here, and the Bengals' sorely need another weapon or two - more of a complete RB and a pass catching TE who's a real threat and can beat LB's, and force teams to do more than take the deep ball away from Chad all day, and stuff the box vs Rudi. Also take some of the pressure off of Palmer by giving him more options and a more dynamic running game to work with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregCook Posted January 2, 2007 Report Share Posted January 2, 2007 Gang, remember that was why Chris Perry was drafted, to give the offense a colt with the ram? Marvin can't be held to account that Perry was injured. The Bengals offense is definitely better when Perry is playing.Considering how banged up the Oline was, Rudi's yardage this year(1309) is good compared to last years. The Bengals do lack a short yardage passing game with their backfield and TE. Jermi Johnson is a under used stud in my view. But with Carson having a great, accurate arm, why not go downfield with those gifted WR's? I can see Brat's thinking on that. But the Bengals need to tweak that Offense and overhaul the defense. For the offense, Its time to draft a low round RB and see about a TE that can run past a linebacker. But with only 6 picks in the draft, I wouldn't use more than 2 for the offense. Yep I pretty much agree with everything Daughtery says - most of which is blatantly obvious to everyone other than Marvin Lewis apparently for some reason.I think the "over-emphasis" is not getting another RB (Watson or Wilson in this case) more involved, or giving them a chance to do something Rudi hasn't for a long time - break more big plays and make something out of nothing when it requires making someone miss (something Rudi can't really do - he either runs over them or gets stuffed).I have loved Rudi for the most part, but I would like to see more of a Colts-style offense here, and the Bengals' sorely need another weapon or two - more of a complete RB and a pass catching TE who's a real threat and can beat LB's, and force teams to do more than take the deep ball away from Chad all day, and stuff the box vs Rudi. Also take some of the pressure off of Palmer by giving him more options and a more dynamic running game to work with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whur CHad At? Posted January 2, 2007 Report Share Posted January 2, 2007 We need a Pass-Catching TE to take the pressure off Chad and TJ!!!! Badly! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC_Bengals_Fan Posted January 2, 2007 Report Share Posted January 2, 2007 We need a Pass-Catching TE to take the pressure off Chad and TJ!!!! Badly!Yeah, if only there had been one available in the 3rd round this past year. *cough*That's OK, we got the slowman aka non-dairy-dessert aka sexual-predator instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whur CHad At? Posted January 2, 2007 Report Share Posted January 2, 2007 Yeah I still don't understand why we passed on Leonard Pope, just baffles me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted January 2, 2007 Report Share Posted January 2, 2007 TE I would say Resign Reggie and then Sign Daniel Graham Considering how banged up the Oline was, Rudi's yardage this year(1309) is good compared to last years. Ya but rudis always kinda been low on YPC for starting RB's he's also on the bottom of the list when comes to runs over 20+yards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengalhead Posted January 2, 2007 Report Share Posted January 2, 2007 Yeah I still don't understand why we passed on Leonard Pope, just baffles meNot saying we couldn't have used him but did you see what Pope has done this year? He was absolutely non existent. I'll attribute some of that to the team he plays for. Still with their offensive weapons, he should have had 10 times the production that he ended with. . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted January 2, 2007 Report Share Posted January 2, 2007 We need a Pass-Catching TE to take the pressure off Chad and TJ!!!! Badly!That was supposed to be Tab's role. But of course he went down for the count way early in the season, too.Of all the injuries the Bengals suffered this year -- and there were a lot -- I think that Tab's may have been the most critical, in the final analysis. Especially with all the injuries on the o-line, the Bengals badly needed a threat at TE or out of the backfield. Remember, in less than 2 games' work this season, Tab had 5 catches for 81 yards. At that pace, he would have about 650 yards receiving by season's end. Last time we had a TE put up those kind of numbers was 1995. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalszoneBilly Posted January 2, 2007 Report Share Posted January 2, 2007 Yeah I still don't understand why we passed on Leonard Pope, just baffles meI was SO hoping that the Bengals would draft him! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairOnFire Posted January 2, 2007 Report Share Posted January 2, 2007 Yeah I still don't understand why we passed on Leonard Pope, just baffles meNot saying we couldn't have used him but did you see what Pope has done this year? He was absolutely non existent. I'll attribute some of that to the team he plays for. Still with their offensive weapons, he should have had 10 times the production that he ended with. . . Agreed. In addition, one of the other highly pimped TE's that Bengal fans criticized the Bengals for missing was Dominique Byrd. He too did nothing of note unless you count stabbing a guy with a broken beer bottle in a bar fight.* * There ya' go kids. The perfect setup for the next Bengal/character joke. Come up with your own and impress your friends. Cash prizes awarded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
membengal Posted January 2, 2007 Report Share Posted January 2, 2007 What do we get for NOT making the obvious alleged "joke" at this point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairOnFire Posted January 2, 2007 Report Share Posted January 2, 2007 What do we get for NOT making the obvious alleged "joke" at this point? My lasting respect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spor_tees Posted January 2, 2007 Report Share Posted January 2, 2007 What do we get for NOT making the obvious alleged "joke" at this point? My lasting respect.Two Byrd's in the bush is worth one Byrd in the hand? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengalspride1219 Posted January 3, 2007 Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 Well said:http://frontier.cincinnati.com/blogs/daugh...-for-marvin.asphoneymoon's over for MarvinI'm a little tired of hearing about selfishness and responsibility and chemistry. Marvin started to sound like Huggins used to: I coached great, they didnt listen. The Bengals were next-to-last in the AFC in 3rd quarter point differential. That's a stat geek's number, but it reflects poorly on the staff's ability to change gears at halftime...They continued to overemphasize Rudi Johnson. Heavy Duty's a nice, complementary player, a straight-ahead plower who doesnt screw up often and comes to play every week. He isnt the focus of this team's attack. Or shouldnt be. Rudi had 100 yards against Indy and Denver. So?The play-calling got ridiculously predictable. 2nd-and-long, give the ball to Rudi. Carson changing the play, give the ball to Rudi. When Palmer was getting hammered routinely middle of the year, rarely a draw, screen or 3-step drop. Silly reverses to TJ and Chad, 3 yards a pop...Speaking of Chad, he's the obvious target of the "selfish'' sniping. Just stop. How about this: Cover someone. Tackle someone. Hit someone in the numbers with a pass before the 4th quarter. Make an extra point. Stop with the false starts in Week 17. Chad is selfish, though. That explains 8-8.Stop taking chances on guys with a history. Stop saying it doesnt affect the team. Stop thinking you're a good enough coach to overcome that. You're not. Develop a better relationship with the media, who are your conduit to the public, like it or not. Ease off the condescension. You've had it easy here for 4 years. Next year will be different. You might need your friends in the press. Next year's the swing year for this coach and this franchise. 8-8 won't make it.good article Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whur CHad At? Posted January 3, 2007 Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 Well Byrd could of made an impact but the Rams selected a TE right in front of him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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