BENGALTHEM Posted October 21, 2006 Report Share Posted October 21, 2006 We're 3-2 but it seems like there's too many negatives to overcome from preseason to now........Character issues/Arrests/ Suspensions: Odell (done), Henry, Steinbach, Nicholson, Rucker, Askew(Isn't Henry facing another suspension?)Injuries:Brahm (probably done), Levi, Jeanty, TaB(done), C Perry, Housh, KW, Chatman, Pollack(done), Nicholson, Rucker (done) Wright, Jackson, Simmons(slept on his neck wrong?) All missing significant timeBad Calls:1There's no chemistry with the o-line, the linebackers, or the recievers .....where's ocho cinco?(I was really looking forward to seeing Pollack and Thurman play this year)Still can't consistently stop the run even with Adams.I don't know if we can withstand another injury or suspension, or arrest.What happens if a TE gets injured ..........and as a side note, do we seriously need brad st.louis taking up a roster spot just because he can snap the ball good?I don't mean to come off negative in this post but do you feel as confident with the Bengals beating the Panthers as last years team? I we can't stop the run, what's going to happen when we play Atlanta?To me, this was the team that is supposed to dominate this year. But the stars failed to line up. Next year Smith and Steinbach might be playing for another team.At least we can see what kind of depth we have on this team and get better picks in the draft.(Thurman, Brooks, and Pollack would be nice)I know its still a long season and I'm not giving up on the Bengals but............ it doesn't look good at this point. The Bengals need things to start rolling there way. We lack stability, chemistry and execution. Despite all of this, the Bengals are still a top 10 team. This Sunday's game is a good test to see where we are at. I'm looking for the offense to explode against Carolina. Chad should get at least 4 bombs thrown his way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengalboomer7 Posted October 21, 2006 Report Share Posted October 21, 2006 Are you friggin kidding me! We;ve looked flat every game and we're still 3-2. Let's at least wait a few weeks before we decide anything like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defender Posted October 21, 2006 Report Share Posted October 21, 2006 I don't know if "done" is the right term. I have lowered my expectations a bit but I'm not giving up hope on this team,and I'm just going to enjoy this season for what it is. But I believe that whatever is happening right now is making them a better football team in the long run.With everything you mentioned, I think of that quote by Nietzche: “What does not destroy me, makes me stronger.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derekshank Posted October 21, 2006 Report Share Posted October 21, 2006 What happens if a TE gets injured?This is the one bright side of not having a decent TE. When one gets injured, it's not a big deal. You can sign someone off the practice squad who is almost as good.I don't mean to come off negative in this post but do you feel as confident with the Bengals beating the Panthers as last years team? I we can't stop the run, what's going to happen when we play Atlanta?Firstly, we had 2 really bad games in rushing defense early last year, and were able to right the ship. We had 2 bad games this season... against Pit and NE. We did a decent job of stopping the run against TB. Granted, we didn't look elite out there, but we had a back-up SS and 3 3rd string LB's in. Carolina's running game doesn't scare me at all, and Atlanta has looked just as flat as we have the past few weeks. I'm not going to start getting really worried unless we lose the next 2 games. If we end up 3-4 after 7 games, it will be a hole that is difficult to climb out of.On the other hand, if we manage to get healthy, and play as well as we should, this team has enough talent to climb out of just about any hole. I'm still confident. Maybe not quite as much as I was 3 weeks ago, but a couple really flat games doesn't scare me. We're still an excellent football team, so if we can get it going on our terms, there isn't a team out there that can stop us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ox Posted October 21, 2006 Report Share Posted October 21, 2006 I love this. Go ahead, jump off the wagon. These kind of doom and gloom type arguments are laughable. Yeah, it's been a rough couple of weeks, but give me a break. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted October 21, 2006 Report Share Posted October 21, 2006 Injuries are killing the team right now. Once everyone they healthy, things will be fine. It starts this week with the return of Perry and hopefully DJax and Jeanty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semiotter Posted October 21, 2006 Report Share Posted October 21, 2006 Hang tough my BROTHERS the enemy sees this and feeds of this s**t so please dont say stupid crap like this. This a long season and we will be OK.....we will get the walking wounded back and you will see a great turn around.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted October 21, 2006 Report Share Posted October 21, 2006 The Bengals aren't done yet...but they do seem to be moving backwards right now, and the ludicriously large pileup of injuries and suspensions has imparted a certain sense of inevitability to their slide. I mean, it isn't like their primary problems are anything they can do something about; you can't make an ankle heal any faster, or speed up a suspension, or develop raw but promising rooks in a week.Most worrisome to me is that the team iteself seems to have absorbed some of that cloud of inevitable doom. They don't appear to have any fire. Daughtery touched on it in a column this week, and Brad Johansen alluded to it in his blog on the official site. Last year's swagger is a distant memory; this year's team -- mentally, at least -- reminds me more of, well, all those teams in the dark years. Hoping to win, wondering if they can win, pockets full of woe is us, etc. If so, that's on Marvin, he needs to light a fire under these guys. Thats his job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tibor75 Posted October 21, 2006 Report Share Posted October 21, 2006 Marvin has no one to blame but himself for the defense.He drafts sucky players, players who get arrested, players who get injured, and the D still stinks.Hell, the only great player he's drafted is Palmer. CJ, Housh, Rudi were all here when he became coach.It's more likely that he'll be fired in 3 years than that he'll win a super bowl, methinks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted October 21, 2006 Report Share Posted October 21, 2006 Most worrisome to me is that the team iteself seems to have absorbed some of that cloud of inevitable doom. They don't appear to have any fire. Daughtery touched on it in a column this week, and Brad Johansen alluded to it in his blog on the official site. Last year's swagger is a distant memory; this year's team -- mentally, at least -- reminds me more of, well, all those teams in the dark years. Hoping to win, wondering if they can win, pockets full of woe is us, etc. If so, that's on Marvin, he needs to light a fire under these guys. Thats his job.I agree, but I still think it all goes back to the injuries. How are you going to have any type of swagger with the banged up team the Bengals are putting out on the field every week? Carson looks scared for his life every time he drops back to pass because he knows he isn't going to be getting any protection from the rag-tag line that has been pieced together because of all of the injuries.I really believe that once people start getting healthy, you are going to be seeing a completely different attitude out there...a team with a swagger and fire. They just need to get through this rough spot. The AFC North is still wide open, every team in the division is fighting their own demons right now and no one has really stepped up.Keep the faith! WHO-DEY!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted October 21, 2006 Report Share Posted October 21, 2006 Marvin has no one to blame but himself for the defense.The defense is playing pretty well, actually. It's allowing just under 20 points a game on average -- and in fact that average is skewed by one blowout, the Pats game. Toss that and the D is giving up only a bit more than 2 TDs a game. And its gotten turnovers. The problem is that the offense can't score to save its life.I agree, but I still think it all goes back to the injuries. How are you going to have any type of swagger with the banged up team the Bengals are putting out on the field every week?I hear ya, but injuries or not you have to project confidence. Carson may not be happy in the pocket but he damn well has to step up into it and throw. Because sometimes Bluto is going to hold up and he is going to have time and he is going to get the completion. And it's doing that -- making plays -- that will give this offense back some zing most quickly.The bottom line is that this offense is playing scared and feeling sorry for itself, IMHO. Is that due to the injuries? Yes. But that's no excuse to mope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted October 21, 2006 Report Share Posted October 21, 2006 Are the Bengals done ?? Not a chance in hell, but the injuries aren't helping and the lack of fire is DEFINITELY apparent !!! The thing that is going to irritate me is, this will be an opportunity to blame all of this on the "character issues" at the beginning of the season, which I personally think is bullsh*t !!! Oh well, we are still more than in it, but we can't afford to keep playing the way we have...WHODEY !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted October 21, 2006 Report Share Posted October 21, 2006 The thing that is going to irritate me is, this will be an opportunity to blame all of this on the "character issues" at the beginning of the season, which I personally think is bullsh*t !!!Well, like it or not those character issues are playing a big role right now because a couple of those "characters" -- Odell and Henry -- ain't playing right now. The impact of losing Odell has been smaller than some might have thought, but losing Henry the last couple games, and this one tomorrow, has clearly been a huge blow, esp. with all the dings in the WR corps. The bottom line is that without those character issues, the Bengals would almost certainly be in a lot better shape right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
membengal Posted October 21, 2006 Report Share Posted October 21, 2006 They're clearly done. You shouldn't watch.Tibor, go f**k a goat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crttylr Posted October 21, 2006 Report Share Posted October 21, 2006 They're clearly done. You shouldn't watch.Tibor, go f**k a goat.They need a fight like the Miami fight last week, to get some fire under their asses!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted October 21, 2006 Report Share Posted October 21, 2006 They're clearly done. You shouldn't watch.Tibor, go f**k a goat.They need a fight like the Miami fight last week, to get some fire under their asses!!! While I would love to see some fire under their asses as you stated, if they were to do what the dumbass Canes did, I would have to stop being a fan. That was f*cking stupid and it's irresponsible to say that's what's needed...WHODEY !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BENGALTHEM Posted October 21, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2006 I love this. Go ahead, jump off the wagon. These kind of doom and gloom type arguments are laughable. Yeah, it's been a rough couple of weeks, but give me a break.You obviously didn't read my post correctly. Aint nobody jumping off the bandwagon. I've been supporting the Bengals even during the bad years, so please save your bulls**t comments. I think my statements are legitimate concerns. I offer constuctive critiscim of the Bengals through 5 games and now all of a sudden I'm jumping off the bandwagon?There's nothing laughable about the Bengals enduring injuries and suspensions while loosing 2 straight. Your give me a break attitude is what's laughable. If your not a little concerned about how the Bengals have beeen progressing, then you don't know football. And that my friend is laughable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ox Posted October 21, 2006 Report Share Posted October 21, 2006 You obviously didn't read my post correctly. Aint nobody jumping off the bandwagon. I've been supporting the Bengals even during the bad years, so please save your bulls**t comments. I think my statements are legitimate concerns. I offer constuctive critiscim of the Bengals through 5 games and now all of a sudden I'm jumping off the bandwagon?There's nothing laughable about the Bengals enduring injuries and suspensions while loosing 2 straight. Your give me a break attitude is what's laughable. If your not a little concerned about how the Bengals have beeen progressing, then you don't know football. And that my friend is laughable.Wow did I touch a nerve there cowboy? Listen, I understand you're concerned with the way our team has been playing. Yes, I understand you're concerned with the injuries the Bengals have sustained. That being said, to go ahead a write the team off after 5 games IS LAUGHABLE. You don't have to be a football einstein to recognize this.I salute your loyalty to the team after all of these years, as should anyone who's put up with the sh*t that we've all dealt with. But if you're going to cast a doom and gloom scenario just because we've lost one bad game to the Patriots and were for all intents and purposes robbed of the Tampa game, then I am going to tell you to get over it and enjoy the remaining 11 games. Hell, if not for a phantom roughing call, we wouldn't even be having this conversation.So keep offering your constructive critiscim, and I along with the rest of the gang will keep posting our thoughts on the matter. If you don't like what is said about your posts, then stop making threads. That being said, I do enjoy your thoughts, even if I don't agree. So please keep it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted October 21, 2006 Report Share Posted October 21, 2006 Marvin has no one to blame but himself for the defense.He drafts sucky players, players who get arrested, players who get injured, and the D still stinks.Hell, the only great player he's drafted is Palmer. CJ, Housh, Rudi were all here when he became coach.It's more likely that he'll be fired in 3 years than that he'll win a super bowl, methinks.Do you post anything that isn't some unfounded attack on Marvin? You'd still be griping if the Bengals were 5-0 with the top defense in the league.Back on topic... No, the Bengals aren't done. If they don't get off the schnide soon though, the season could collapse in their faces. I don't think BengalThem's post is all that stupid. Anyone can have faith in a team, but all his points are based on valid observations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DontPushMe Posted October 22, 2006 Report Share Posted October 22, 2006 Askew? Theres no cincinnati bengal with that name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sportsdoc Posted October 22, 2006 Report Share Posted October 22, 2006 Yep, the Bengals are toast. I doubt they will finish 8-8 this year. Today will be another loss. The 8:30 NFL show on ESPN showed how bad the O-line is [esp Bobbie Williams]. But the deeper problem is that the coaches can't see the problems and correct them..... Andrew W would have done a whole ton better than BObbie at RG... but Paul Alexidiot can't see anything... like spending 2 draft picks on Central Michigan guys that no one else followe that could have been had as free agents... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schweinhart Posted October 22, 2006 Report Share Posted October 22, 2006 I wouldn't write off this season until the Bengals sign Jeff Query and David Klinger as street free agents. But the O-Line has to rise to the level they were last year w/o Buckethead and Levi. Today would be a great time to pull it together and hopefully Bluto can hold his own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted October 22, 2006 Report Share Posted October 22, 2006 They need a fight like the Miami fight last week, to get some fire under their asses!!!Yeah, that's exactly what we need...more suspensions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rwalling Posted October 22, 2006 Report Share Posted October 22, 2006 Bwa ha ha! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted October 22, 2006 Report Share Posted October 22, 2006 The 2006 Bengals went into the locker room today at halftime...and the 2005 Bengals came out. I don't know what was said, but I guarantee you something was. Beautiful to see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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