schnarfer Posted October 3, 2006 Report Share Posted October 3, 2006 I believe our O line will be much better after the bye, but if we get an explosive and healthy Chris perry, of which we have seen glimpses of, is there a chance he gets more carries than rudi? Do not get me wrong, I love Rudi and his style of running but he is not a guy who can give us a chance to break a play. He will get caught. Perry brings that extra gear that may be able to take some pressure of the O-line. What ever the case may be, a healthy perry brings another weapon to the arsenol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buck3y3d Posted October 3, 2006 Report Share Posted October 3, 2006 Rudi is running better than ever before. This has nothing to do with Perry. We need Perry as a 3rd down back because he offers a pass catching weapon out of the backfield, but I'll take Rudi as an everydown back anyday over Perry. I think any team in the league would say the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC_Bengals_Fan Posted October 3, 2006 Report Share Posted October 3, 2006 I believe our O line will be much better after the bye, but if we get an explosive and healthy Chris perry, of which we have seen glimpses of, is there a chance he gets more carries than rudi? Do not get me wrong, I love Rudi and his style of running but he is not a guy who can give us a chance to break a play. He will get caught. Perry brings that extra gear that may be able to take some pressure of the O-line. What ever the case may be, a healthy perry brings another weapon to the arsenol.More carries than Rudi? Do you feel like attending Perry's funeral?Seriously, Perry has never given any indication that he can run between the tackles in the NFL. He sort of fills the role of the fullback from the west coast offense, mixed with scat-back moves. But no, he won't be seeing 20 touches a game unless Rudi's leg falls off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJJackson Posted October 3, 2006 Report Share Posted October 3, 2006 Two Carry Perry will (barring injury) never be a starter in this league Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted October 3, 2006 Report Share Posted October 3, 2006 No, Perry will not and should not start. Rudi's lack of breakaway talent has only been good enough for 350 some yards in the first four games and four touchdowns. Perry's role as a 3rd down back is perfect for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DontPushMe Posted October 3, 2006 Report Share Posted October 3, 2006 Two Carry Perry will (barring injury) never be a starter in this leagueConsidering your track record, and apparent inability to count, this post means nothing.I still stand by my statements that Perry is more talented than Rudi. At this point though theres no reason to make that change. If it were up to me, we'd go to a system like what new orleans is running, and start both Rudi and Perry, but i wouldnt bench Rudi. I think something like 20 carries to 10 would be perfect, this year at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJJackson Posted October 3, 2006 Report Share Posted October 3, 2006 2 carries, 1 yard, 0.5 yards per carryhttp://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/493027/gamelogs/2004I count just fine, but again, any slam coming from you is like a high compliment coming from anyone else Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted October 3, 2006 Report Share Posted October 3, 2006 Ever heard of comparing apples to oranges ?? Well here you go... I want C. Perry back, but please stop with what he can do better than Rudi. It's just not debatable... NOT EVEN CLOSE !!!WHODEY !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DontPushMe Posted October 3, 2006 Report Share Posted October 3, 2006 2 carries, 1 yard, 0.5 yards per carryhttp://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/493027/gamelogs/2004I count just fine, but again, any slam coming from you is like a high compliment coming from anyone elsehttp://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/49302763 carries, 280 yards, 4.4 yards per carryThats good though, pretend only 1 season counts when its the one most convenient to you. Thats gonna be rough when steeler fans come on here calling our qb Carson "0 Attempts" Palmer.. why not, thats all he had one year!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted October 3, 2006 Report Share Posted October 3, 2006 In the mean time, when it comes to getting another receiver out of the backfield, why not J. Johnson ?? He has done it in the past and unless I've missed it, hasn't done much of that up to this point...WHODEY !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted October 3, 2006 Report Share Posted October 3, 2006 Perry is a threat between tackles I dunno but all same hes a threat...that being said I wanna keep rudi starter but I woulden't mind seeing perry getting more snaps (which I won't doubt if henry can't go mybe they line him up as slot WR? and can audible him to back field? etc dunno.) but rudi still needs atleast 20-25 game....alot of teams are sharing load with 2 RB's now....1 fast back 1 power back.I really hope Chris can stay healthy though we need him.Rudi - ChrisTiki -JacobJjones-Barberetc etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
membengal Posted October 3, 2006 Report Share Posted October 3, 2006 This team clearly misses Perry, and it is obvious in their difficulty to convert medium third downs. He is a valuable weapon as the third down back, and I can't wait to get him back.That said, stop confusing what he does well with what Rudi brings to this team. Rudi is the rock at running back, and the more he is used, the better this team is. Perry is his complement.And, TJ, your newest nickname for Perry is silly. Anyone with eyes last year could see how explosive Perry is and how his presence on the field in certain sets is an absolute nightmare for defenses. To everyone worrying about the line play, Perry being back will immediately provide relief, as teams will not be as able to send the extra blitzer in certain sets because Perry will be too dangerous to risk being turned loose into the area vacated by the blitzer.The continued Perry hate on this board remains puzzling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJJackson Posted October 3, 2006 Report Share Posted October 3, 2006 Two Carry Perry is what I have called this particular casher-of-unearned-checks ever since the middle of 2004. Nothing new or silly about it, whatsoever. Because of his glass-like bones and paper-like musculature, we can nver count on him to be healthy, and cannot therefore count on him as Rudi's backup, whch he nominally should be given his position on the depth chart. Becaue of this fragility, he gets paid at a much higher effective rate (salary and bonus divided by numer of games actually played, as opposed to divided by 16+) than he should be. His fragility also forces the bengals to keep an extra running back - Rudi's true backup is this extra player.Talk to me about how great he is when he can consistently get on the field and actually earn his pay.....and it will never (barring injury and resulting desperation) be as a starter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EyeoftheTiger Posted October 3, 2006 Report Share Posted October 3, 2006 Perry has a role in this team but mainly as a 3rd down option and not at the expense of RUDI,S carries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnstownsteel Posted October 3, 2006 Report Share Posted October 3, 2006 I'm not speaking for all fans of your competitors but I have a sneaking suspicion that most would agree. Rudi Johnson is a great back. In fact, he is one of the best in the league. Although Perry would be a nice compliment if healthy, he isn't that grind it out, ball control back that the Bengals need. Imo, there are times Rudi is under utilized. A great example would be last years playoff game against the Steelers. I could be wrong but it seemed as though he and that offensive line was wearing down the Steeler defense. They went away from that much to early and put the game in Kitnas hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted October 3, 2006 Report Share Posted October 3, 2006 Put the game in Kitnas handsOh Jesus, don't remind me !!!WHODEY !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnstownsteel Posted October 3, 2006 Report Share Posted October 3, 2006 Put the game in Kitnas handsOh Jesus, don't remind me !!!WHODEY !!!Oooppps...my bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShulaSteakhouse Posted October 3, 2006 Report Share Posted October 3, 2006 Vote for ridiculous thread of the week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted October 3, 2006 Report Share Posted October 3, 2006 Put the game in Kitnas handsOh Jesus, don't remind me !!!WHODEY !!!Oooppps...my bad. No problem JTS... I'm just not one of those Bengal fans who had a love fest with said QB...WHODEY !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJJackson Posted October 3, 2006 Report Share Posted October 3, 2006 Vote for ridiculous thread of the week.Nah, my buddy agreen has them all beat when it comes to ridiculous-nesshttp://forums.bengalszone.com/index.php?sh...c=12833&hl= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoePong Posted October 3, 2006 Report Share Posted October 3, 2006 Not saying Perry should start, but after watching guys like Willie Parker and Maroney the last two weeks, it shows how important it is to have a RB who is a cutback threat and a threat to bounce it outside. We have NOBODY even close to that without Perry. Rudi is just way too easy to defend against. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnstownsteel Posted October 3, 2006 Report Share Posted October 3, 2006 Not saying Perry should start, but after watching guys like Willie Parker and Maroney the last two weeks, it shows how important it is to have a RB who is a cutback threat and a threat to bounce it outside. We have NOBODY even close to that without Perry. Rudi is just way too easy to defend against.Funny how the grass is always greener on the other side isn't it? Given a choice, I'd take Willie over Rudi anyday of the week except of course Sunday, Monday, Thursday and sometimes Saturday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walzav29 Posted October 3, 2006 Report Share Posted October 3, 2006 I can't believe you're turning on Rudi. Is Perry out for the 1st 6 weeks of the NFL or 6 Bengal games? I think he is a little extra in the passing game, but he hasn't done anything compared to Rudi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tasher Posted October 3, 2006 Report Share Posted October 3, 2006 Well, If you look at Perry's game against the Colts, it looks like this...Name, Rush, Yds, AvgC.Perry, 8, 82, 10.3 So, selectively we can probably find all kinds of anecdotal data to support whatever we want.Seems to me that the Coaches will make the determinations as to who plays and who sits and when. AND it will probably be based on MATCH-UPs that are favorable. I expect that Perry will see more time as the season goes along for a couple of reasons:1. He gets his feet under him in the game.2. Change of pace to Rudi; there is no arguing that these two backs have wildly differing running styles3. Divide the carrys late in the season so that both guys are fresh as the season wears and for the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC_Bengals_Fan Posted October 3, 2006 Report Share Posted October 3, 2006 Not saying Perry should start, but after watching guys like Willie Parker and Maroney the last two weeks, it shows how important it is to have a RB who is a cutback threat and a threat to bounce it outside. We have NOBODY even close to that without Perry. Rudi is just way too easy to defend against.Easy to defend against? How do you defend against a guy who can smack you in the mouth when you know it's coming?Honestly, how anyone could have one of the top 5-10 RBs in the league, and be pining for some backup that's never done anything in this league, is amazing.Clue: Rudi is not the reason they lost Sunday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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