Odell Arrested/1 year suspension official

[benglsdrumr]

The REAL problem is that they somehow keep getting caught! For SOME reason, the cops are always there when a Bengal is doin something against the law...

[buck3y3d]

Nobody said he couldn't get wasted. It is not ok to drink and drive. There should be no tolerance for this.

I don't understand how so many people can defend Odell. He has has more opportunities than probably anyone else on this message board, and yet many of you rush to his defense. He is a football player, but he is not a hero and doesn't deserve treatment like one.

I'm a college student, and understand the fun associated with drinking. However, don't get in a car and drive after getting wasted, its that simple. Odell doesn't need to be cut, but I wouldn't really care if he was. I don't think he is an integral part of this team, and I don't think Marvin feels he is either.

[BlainThePain]

Cheers to Brian Simmons having a great season

Cheers to Ahmad Brooks having a great future

[ArmyBengal]

Come one, come all and see the:

"SUPER MEGA MERGED THREAD"

Seriously people, we don't need a bunch of threads discussing the same topic, please help keep things together for us !!! There were about 6 threads going on Odell and while they may have started a little different, they went the same way... If there are any concerns, please shoot me a PM. Thanks and we now return you to the most recent post on the:

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[UK Bengal]

Just read this now and its bad for odell but he wont get cut if he is out for the year he will get 1 last chance next year if he blows it hes gone.

thinking about it in more depth though maybe odell was covering for someone else in the car that may have been driving and could have been in worse trouble(henry) just a thought

[BengalszoneBilly]

Incorrect. He could have gotten a taxi.

He also could have called any number of other people - Eric Ball for one - who would have made the arrangements for him

Oh...we didn't know you were there and have first hand knowlege of all the goings on. Jesus! I have a better idea than just straight out condemning this man out of hand...Why don't we all just wait and see how this plays out in the legal circles?

I seem to remember many of the same people bashing Odell here now were saying almost the exact same things about Henry earlier this year. He's gone...won't be back...Marvin will cut him loose...we don't need guys with issues...constantly getting into problems with the law...bye bye Chris...and what happened? I believe he caught two touchdown passes for the Bengals in a huge win against the Steelers yesterday! So much for you detractors.

As far as who stays or who goes on this team, what you people who are so quick to condemn forget is this. Your opinion is just that. Also it is usually wrong, not to mention it doesn't mean s**t.

My opinion? Thurman is a Bengal and will remain a Bengal. Let's see which way Marvin goes on this. History dictates he'll stand by his player, like any good man would. Whatever decision Marvin makes, I'll stand behind him. Period.

[BengalsDieHard1]

OK, lets lighten this up a bit!! Did you guys see the skit that the FOX NFL Sunday pregame show did on us?..... it was a new episode of Law and Order...(probably the 15th in the series) and it was labeled "Law and Order: Special Bengals Unit" with MARISKA HARGITAY bracketed by Thurman, Henry, and two other Bengals players that I didn't get a chance to recognise (but I could guess). Do you think NBC could be really considering this as the next show in the series?!?!, could be a big moneymaker!.......let me go grab a beer and a shot and contemplate....

[BengalszoneBilly]

OK, lets lighten this up a bit!! Did you guys see the skit that the FOX NFL Sunday pregame show did on us?..... it was a new episode of Law and Order...(probably the 15th in the series) and it was labeled "Law and Order: Special Bengals Unit" with MARISKA HARGITAY bracketed by Thurman, Henry, and two other Bengals players that I didn't get a chance to recognise (but I could guess). Do you think NBC could be really considering this as the next show in the series?!?!, could be a big moneymaker!.......let me go grab a beer and a shot and contemplate....

Mind if I come with you?

[BengalsDieHard1]

And on a serious note, I've never seen Bengals fans go at each other like this since......well, this is probably the worst. Lets rally around our team and coach and hope for the best. And since I'm being serious, for a change, what sense does it make for a senior editor and monitor of this great site to have a pic of a joint smokin'dude and a animated image of a guy pulling out his peck*r and pis*in on the Steelers logo???? You guys have been stalwarts of this site for years. And don't think there aren't young kids...Bengals and other fans....looking at this site every day. Lets show some class guys.

[buck3y3d]

Incorrect. He could have gotten a taxi.

He also could have called any number of other people - Eric Ball for one - who would have made the arrangements for him

Oh...we didn't know you were there and have first hand knowlege of all the goings on. Jesus! I have a better idea than just straight out condemning this man out of hand...Why don't we all just wait and see how this plays out in the legal circles?

I seem to remember many of the same people bashing Odell here now were saying almost the exact same things about Henry earlier this year. He's gone...won't be back...Marvin will cut him loose...we don't need guys with issues...constantly getting into problems with the law...bye bye Chris...and what happened? I believe he caught two touchdown passes for the Bengals in a huge win against the Steelers yesterday! So much for you detractors.

As far as who stays or who goes on this team, what you people who are so quick to condemn forget is this. Your opinion is just that. Also it is usually wrong, not to mention it doesn't mean s**t.

My opinion? Thurman is a Bengal and will remain a Bengal. Let's see which way Marvin goes on this. History dictates he'll stand by his player, like any good man would. Whatever decision Marvin makes, I'll stand behind him. Period.

Billy, I don't understand how you can advocate that under any circumstances it is ok to drink and drive. I don't care if Odell is cut or not, but he was driving with a blood alcohol level twice the legal limit. (I am condemning him under the simple fact he drove drunk. The evidence is in the test results.)

Henry blew a .09 which was under the old legal limit. I can excuse that. Odell wasn't even close. Any adult should know if you drink, find a ride. Its not that hard. Everybody takes turns being the dd, and to do this once a month is well worth being safe. Football players can dd every once in a while too.

[rwalling]

OK, lets lighten this up a bit!! Did you guys see the skit that the FOX NFL Sunday pregame show did on us?..... it was a new episode of Law and Order...(probably the 15th in the series) and it was labeled "Law and Order: Special Bengals Unit" with MARISKA HARGITAY bracketed by Thurman, Henry, and two other Bengals players that I didn't get a chance to recognise (but I could guess). Do you think NBC could be really considering this as the next show in the series?!?!, could be a big moneymaker!.......let me go grab a beer and a shot and contemplate....

I can't wait to see what the guy at Bang's Cartoons does with this!

[Jonboat]

WTF... sorry to see Odell get into more trouble sounds like we won't see him until next year ( I hope) I think the big question is what the HELL is Henry & Mcneill doing out getting trashed ? I thought they have a curfew during the season, maybe not since they have Monday off but with Henrys troubles you'd think Marvin would at least have him on a tight leash.

[Kazkal]

They were celebrating like the rest of bengaldom.

[Kirkendall]

a pic of a joint smokin'dude

In the sense that I remain true to my beliefs -- should be legal (notice I've never ripped a player for failing THAT drug???) -- it makes perfect sense. However, you're right. I don't want to steer the young 'ums towards the dark side and therefore, I will put Jewels, the murdering gansta from Pulp Fiction, back as my av.

Billy, what's your response being challenged to show your class?

[BengalszoneBilly]

Billie, I don't understand how you can advocate that under any circumstances it is ok to drink and drive.

Okay, first of all, my name is spelled Billy, and at no time did I ever advocate drinking and driving. I HIGHLY recommend against it due to it legal ramifications only. I just stated the facts. He caused no harm to ANYONE. Period.

[Kazkal]

People talk on cell phones and drive that causes accidents =P if he would hurt someone I totally would expect him to pay but he diden't so he shoulden't....you guys don't know case they could just been trying to get home did it say odell caused any problems? was he driving badly? no he freaking got checked and happen to be drunk....

The newest thing on bengals.com says he was driving because the other 2 were alot more messed up then him see he had some sense.though he'd be better off it would seem if reggie was driving.

[buck3y3d]

Billie, I don't understand how you can advocate that under any circumstances it is ok to drink and drive.

Okay, first of all, my name is spelled Billy, and at no time did I ever advocate drinking and driving. I HIGHLY recommend against it due to it legal ramifications only. I just stated the facts. He caused no harm to ANYONE. Period.

I apologize for spelling your name wrong (I edited my post). However, we will forever disagree on the notion of drinking and driving. Anyway, I think it is completely justified to indict Odell. He knew he was on his last chance and he knowingly broke the law. There is no denying this. The legal limit in Ohio is .08. He was at .17. It's that simple.

I reiterate, that I don't know if he will be cut, but how many chances does a guy need. He already had 2. This is ridiculous. Learn your lesson. Playing in the NFL is not a free ticket to make yourself above the law. Chad is responsible. Rudi is responsible. Palmer is responsible. All these guys have much greater star power than Odell, and yet they find a way to behave responsibly.

[Kazkal]

I reiterate, that I don't know if he will be cut, but how many chances does a guy need. He already had 2. This is ridiculous. Learn your lesson. Playing in the NFL is not a free ticket to make yourself above the law. Chad is responsible. Rudi is responsible. Palmer is responsible. All these guys have much greater star power than Odell, and yet they find a way to behave responsibly.

Well henry has gotten 2-3 trys so i'd say till he pulls a gun on a crowd and fire it you keep him inless you plan on cutting henry

[scott91575]

No defense for what Odell did, yet I am also guilty of DD...or technically driving while visibly impaired. I blew a .08. I now live in Michigan, and the law here is OWI (Operating While Intoxicated) is 0.08. Yet there is a secondary law. If you are "visibly impaired" it doesn't matter what the alcohol content, if you seem impaired it is illegal. The charges are similar. The charges were lowered to OWVI, but it's still a misdemeanor and one that can never be taken off my record.

Essentially, I studied day and night for a law school exam (I aslo work during the day as an engineer). I was working on about 4 hours sleep that day, and about 8 hours over a 2 day span. I went out after the exam to celebrate. Stupid enough I didn't pay enough attention to what I drank (pale ale was ordered) and how much (I had about 4 or 5, but I really don't know because people kept filling up my glass). When I left I was tired as hell, but I didn't feel drunk. A little buzzed though. After a few seconds I made the dumbest decision in my life. I thought "I'm ok to drive, and getting a taxi here is a pain in the butt." Anyway, long story short a cop pulled me over doing 40 in a 35 (mind you, I had just turned off onto the road from a 55 mph zone). I told the cop I had a few to drink, and took all the tests. I did screw up a couple things like I misstepped on the straight line test, and I was told by the cop I "sang" the alphabet. That is a failure. I blew, failed, went to jail, tested again at 0.08, and was released on $100 bond. Due to the OWVI rule I was screwed, and pled guilty...I still wonder if I shouild have fought it but my attorney advised against it since it was a cops word vs. mine, I did hit the legal limit, and it was a tough area (a cop got killed by a drunk driver a year before). The judge gave me 15 days in jail (she was the toughest judge in the state), court fees, 1 year probation, classes, etc. So, 12 days in the clink (3 days good behavior) and about $4000 later here I am. I pretty much have to give up law school, and I was lucky my boss was cool about things and I kept my job. Yet this will be on my record for the rest of my life.

My point? Debate all you want about drunk driving. All I can say is watch out for making it seem like no big deal. For Odell, maybe not. Yet people reading this thread may get the same idea. I'm not a big fan of the current rules, but that is the way it is. Just watch out.

BTW...0.18 or 0.17 is pretty bad. That's about 14 or more drinks for someone Odell's size. I'm about 210. 4 or 5 drinks nailed me at 0.08.

[BengalszoneBilly]

Billie, I don't understand how you can advocate that under any circumstances it is ok to drink and drive.

Okay, first of all, my name is spelled Billy, and at no time did I ever advocate drinking and driving. I HIGHLY recommend against it due to it legal ramifications only. I just stated the facts. He caused no harm to ANYONE. Period.

I apologize for spelling your name wrong (I edited my post). However, we will forever disagree on the notion of drinking and driving. Anyway, I think it is completely justified to indict Odell. He knew he was on his last chance and he knowingly broke the law. There is no denying this. The legal limit in Ohio is .08. He was at .17. It's that simple.

I see. Even though he caused nobody any harm you're just pointing out the fact that we in this country are prosecuted on things that MIGHT have happened, yet didn't? Way to go America, Ben Franklin just turned over in his freakin' grave! I don't want to hijack this thread into the problem with bad laws in this country, but the laws against DUI I believe violate the simple principle of you are innocent of a crime until you actually commit it! Kill someone while driving drunk? Of course that person should fry. Until a real crime has been commited, I refuse to call DUI a crime, much less a felony. If it is, then this country is chock full of felons because we ALL have done it at least once in our lives. Most of us many times.

Now, to those who have lost loved one to accidents with drunk drivers, I am sorry for your loss, but no more sorry than I am for those people who lost loved ones in wrecks with sober drivers. My belief is when it's your time to go, it's just your time.

BTW, thanks for changing my name from the female spelling of "Billie" to the male "Billy." I do happen to have one swinging.

[Kazkal]

The people who shoulden't be allowed to drive is old people...

the 3 times i've been hit the driver was over 65 years old.

[HoosierCat]

The debate over the legitimacy of DUI is totally irrelevant from the perspective of the Bengals.

The only question that the team needed an answer to was, can we rely on Odell Thurman? Clearly, the answer is no.

Many here, including me, feared this months ago. The fact that it took just one offseason for him to blow from zero to the brink of a year-long suspension indicated there was a serious problem. And it seemed unlikely it was just going to stop. Unfortunately, those fears were justified.

This isn't hating on Odell. No one is happy to see this happen. But the bottom line is that this guy has a disease. And like any serious disease it can easily kill him. And almost certainly will if he does not get a handle on it. Right now, Odell has a lot bigger issues than football.

As for the Bengals, they have no choice but to move on. Hopefully, Odell gets himself well. And hopefully someday we see him back in stripes. But for now, all I can do is pack away his jersey, and wish him the best in his fight against whatever demons have their claws into him.

[Kazkal]

Thing that does make me kinda sad is a guy like pollack and perry can't catch brake but odell can't learn I think odell is in the dog house as he should be I just dont think should be s cut/kicked for this...league bans him for the full year...make him prove himself in the offseason by being at every single offseason thing and earn his spot back...they make him only miss his 4games stick to starting him at 3rd string and special teams till he earns some respect and his spot back.

PS,I stick by my comments on old people should not be alloud to drive and people who talk on cellphones well driving should get life.

[BengalszoneBilly]

This isn't hating on Odell. No one is happy to see this happen. But the bottom line is that this guy has a disease. And like any serious disease it can easily kill him. And almost certainly will if he does not get a handle on it. Right now, Odell has a lot bigger issues than football.

I know it's not hating, but you're missing the disease, unless you want to call the fame, money and success/excess that comes with being an NFL star player today. I believe that's the lifestyle the young succesfull athletes live every freakin' day. Some just do it better off the radar of the authorities. The same way they do it off my radar on game day. I usually never notice them because the announcers aren't calling their names as often as say Chris Henrys was being mentioned yesterday.

*NOTE!!* Carson Palmer is an exception to this rule!

[HoosierCat]

I know it's not hating, but you're missing the disease,

Alcoholic. Addict. Whatever it is. He's gettin drunk while he's supposedly in a rehab program. Can't stay off the stuff even when his whole career -- fame, money, women, everything -- is on the line.

Yeah, he's got a problem. And he needs to make a choice: does he want to party or does he want to play football? If the former, I guarantee you he will party himself straight into an early grave. If the latter, well, then he needs to check his a$$ into a serious rehab program and get his head screwed on sraight.