Kazkal Posted April 30, 2006 Report Share Posted April 30, 2006 (edited) Horrible the worst draft in the marvin era! mikey must have been mikey making the picksmessed up was suppossed be mikey must have been making the picks Edited April 30, 2006 by Kazkal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott91575 Posted April 30, 2006 Report Share Posted April 30, 2006 I am disspaointed in this draft. Not one hole filled with an impact player. The first round I am sort of indifferent by who was avialable. In RD 2 you have Wroten (yes character issues) and Pope who could make an impact next year. In Rd 3 there was Ko Simpson and Orien Harris. Again, players that could make an impact in year one. Instead they get Frostee? A guy who will be lucky to even make the rotation not just next year, but ever.I suppose it's nice to have a Tackle if Willie leaves, and a CB to replace Tory James (that one I sort of agree with), but they did nothing to improve the current team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted April 30, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2006 Tory replacement was what i wanted rnd 1 from start other 2 indifferent....somehow dont think will be getting a good graft grade this year like we have past few Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJ29 Posted April 30, 2006 Report Share Posted April 30, 2006 I'm a little disappointed, but slow down a little here people.With JJ, we're getting a clone of Deltha... Which is good.Whitworth is the likely heir to Willie.The Frostee pick puzzles me a little, especially with McClover Watkins, and Ko still there, but Marvin and the boys must've seen something there.I thought that the draft of Perry, Madieu, Keiwan, Landon, and Caleb was bad, but look how that panned out.There is something there in all of these guys. Maarvin sees something in Frostee that he thinks he can bring out of him, and if he can, we might have something there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted April 30, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2006 wonder chance of getting ko because alot of safetys were taken today so less teams need one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJ29 Posted April 30, 2006 Report Share Posted April 30, 2006 wonder chance of getting ko because alot of safetys were taken today so less teams need oneAt this point, I'd rather have Pat Watkins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted April 30, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2006 1st 2nders make sense There is something there in all of these guys. Maarvin sees something in Frostee that he thinks he can bring out of him, and if he can, we might have something there.aye has be reason we took him with 3 good DE prospects ,gabe and ko on board marvin knows best Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walshfan Posted April 30, 2006 Report Share Posted April 30, 2006 Let wait and see... may turn out to be a very good draft.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted April 30, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2006 Let wait and see... may turn out to be a very good draft..aye I was kinds displeased at first but the 1st 2 picks aren't really that bad we could got justice in the 1st 3rd one looks to be reach? but do think marvin would reach 2 rounds early? mybe he thought this guy would be gone or thought he would be worth it theres reason he was selected Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybren Posted April 30, 2006 Report Share Posted April 30, 2006 I thought that the draft of Perry, Madieu, Keiwan, Landon, and Caleb was bad, but look how that panned out.I respect you for saying that and I wish other people would keep this in mind.The infatuation with Ko Simpson or some first day TE has got people losing their grip on reality. Marvin and the Tobins are good at their jobs so we don't need to go apes#!t when we see something that doesn't automatically click for us. For the most part we're not talking about picking Sam Bowie over Michael Jordan, we talking about passing over players that nobody else is picking up. Everything will be okay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derekshank Posted April 30, 2006 Report Share Posted April 30, 2006 Somehow I just don't think Marvin cares if the ESPN "Experts" grade us out high. We had a decent grade last year... but that was the first time. We had a horrible grading the year we drafted Landon Johnson, Ratliff, and Madieu... and when you look back on it, that was probably our strongest draft.I'm not very excited about this draft, simply because I haven't seen any of the guys we drafted play... but we'll see them soon enough. In the mean-time, I'll take the "expert" opinions with a grain of salt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJ29 Posted April 30, 2006 Report Share Posted April 30, 2006 I can't wait for the rookie minicamp. When will that be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tasher Posted April 30, 2006 Report Share Posted April 30, 2006 ...certainly makes you go "huh..."But Davin Joseph and John McCargo in the first are far "worse" picks than anything we have done, especially considering we have a pretty solid club, and Marvin certainly knows more about how his players are developing than we do.Getting Madieu back makes the secondary that much better along with the addition of Dexter, and we have a bunch of young safeties from the practice squad that will potentially add depth...D-line will be fine too if our youngsters are developing (even without Askew!)So...I will reserve myself to wait and see. It is not last year, or 2003 with a bazillion picks, but we were bitching last year too about Henry and others. Remember too that Weathersby seemed to be a HUGE steal and a very exciting pick at the time and he never played a snap after he was supposed to be a unquestionable high first-rounder before he was shot.This is a very different position than we have ever been in the draft with a very different philosophy towards it as our organization changes and grows, so we have to let Marvin do his thing....methinks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cincy9275 Posted April 30, 2006 Report Share Posted April 30, 2006 the first 2 picks are guys the could maybe end up starters. i just think in the first couple of rounds you should draft guys that can come in and immediately challenge the starters for there jobs. i don't see that in these two and as for frosty that is just not a very good pick. i would have much rather seen kudla or even watson picked here over this guy. character issues must have been a big deal and i think it changed the philosophy of our draft a bit because that is the one thing these guys have in common is there are no major off the field issues with these 3 . i just was expecting a top tier player to help this team now and not a year or two from now . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted April 30, 2006 Report Share Posted April 30, 2006 I answer this poll with a grimace and a shrug. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalszoneBilly Posted April 30, 2006 Report Share Posted April 30, 2006 I'm not nearly as stoked about this year as I was during the same point in last years draft day. The first two picks Marvin made last year produced some major excitement for me. This year I just keep going "Uh...Okay...I guess." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted April 30, 2006 Report Share Posted April 30, 2006 I'm not excited in the least with who and where we took these guys (I don't mind the 1st round), but will not say "worst draft ever" either. I will give the benefit of the doubt to Marvin, but hope he proves me wrong about the 2nd and 3rd rounders !!!WHODEY !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Antonio Bengal Posted April 30, 2006 Report Share Posted April 30, 2006 I love draft day. It's a day when everyone knows they are an expert and knows that their armchair scouting is at least on par if not better than the professionals. It's a day when any pick you don't agree with is the direct result of Mike Brown taking control of the draft away from Marvin and Co. It's a day that picks are considered "reaches" if taken a few spots before Mel Kiper's projection. And yes, Mel Kiper does know everything in the universe. Today is a day when the focus is on the "win now" short term philosophy rather than on the long term well being of a team. It's a day when snap judgements are made about players who you've never seen and don't know anything about.And the thing that I love most about draft day is that Marvin Lewis doesn't care one iota about what Mel Kiper says or what any of the other armchair scouts with their 7-round mocks are saying. He doesn't care about picking the popular players first like you do in middle school. He doesn't care what you or I think. He doesn't only care about winning games tomorrow, but also winning games for years to come. Marvin knows more football than you. I realize that most of yall want the confrontation and arguments and anger and want to cry, but, you know, draft day is much easier if you kick back, relax and enjoy some orange kool-aid.I love draft day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted April 30, 2006 Report Share Posted April 30, 2006 I love draft day. It's a day when everyone knows they are an expert and knows that their armchair scouting is at least on par if not better than the professionals. It's a day when any pick you don't agree with is the direct result of Mike Brown taking control of the draft away from Marvin and Co. It's a day that picks are considered "reaches" if taken a few spots before Mel Kiper's projection. And yes, Mel Kiper does know everything in the universe. Today is a day when the focus is on the "win now" short term philosophy rather than on the long term well being of a team. It's a day when snap judgements are made about players who you've never seen and don't know anything about.And the thing that I love most about draft day is that Marvin Lewis doesn't care one iota about what Mel Kiper says or what any of the other armchair scouts with their 7-round mocks are saying. He doesn't care about picking the popular players first like you do in middle school. He doesn't care what you or I think. He doesn't only care about winning games tomorrow, but also winning games for years to come. Marvin knows more football than you. I realize that most of yall want the confrontation and arguments and anger and want to cry, but, you know, draft day is much easier if you kick back, relax and enjoy some orange kool-aid.I love draft day. I'll go ahead and nominate this for "Draft Day One Post of the Day" given the circumstances !!!WHODEY !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbengals1 Posted April 30, 2006 Report Share Posted April 30, 2006 what happened to " BEST AVAILABLE PLAYER " i dont see any OF THE 3 under that categorywe missed out on alot of players or i should say they fell through our fingers !!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalChamps Posted April 30, 2006 Report Share Posted April 30, 2006 What a really strange day. I was hoping for a 1st day safety, and nothing on offense unless it was TE. I'm not very excited. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalBillyBob Posted April 30, 2006 Report Share Posted April 30, 2006 Joesph was a reach and will need time to develop.Rucker is a bum, who will get beaten in the run game, and is a marginal pass rusher.Whitworth means that we have a replacement for Anderson who wont be back next year.Sam Adams is old so I think DT and DE are still problems.Safety and TE are still needs...At least we didnt pick another WR!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted April 30, 2006 Report Share Posted April 30, 2006 Joesph was a reach and will need time to develop.Rucker is a bum, who will get beaten in the run game, and is a marginal pass rusher.Whitworth means that we have a replacement for Anderson who wont be back next year.Sam Adams is old so I think DT and DE are still problems.Safety and TE are still needs...At least we didnt pick another WR!!!Yeah, that about sums it up for me, too. A disappointing day 1 for me. Way back when they signed Sam I said that if this meant they ignored DT again. then the Sam signing would be a bad thing. They may still have a chance to get someone decent in the 4th, tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsbengalsbucks Posted April 30, 2006 Report Share Posted April 30, 2006 Here is my Day 1 grade:Rd. 1 Joseph, is one of the most athletic CB in the draft this year and the Bengals now have an option to go to if James or Deltha go down. DB was my first priority in this draft, need a S for depth on Day 2 A+ (4.25)Rd. 2 Whitworth, is the most reliable OL in the draft 52 straight starts, 22 straight starts without giving up a sack while playing in the SEC, never even missed a practice due to injury, great desire to play the game. Solid backup this season with the possibility of taking over the opening that may happen next season at 3 different OL positions.B (3)Rd. 3 Rucker, DE was one of the weekest positions at depth this year and next year Justin maybe gone. Played on the best team in the nation for the last two seasons, has a great desire to play and was ranked to go somewhere from Rd 3 to Rd. 5. I'll trust in Marvin on this one and give him aC- (1.75)4.25 + 3 + 1.75 = 9.0 / 3 = 3 SOLID B grade for first day.Get used to the fact that most seasons the Bengals will now be selecting players to fill backup roles for thier first season with the club, the days of starting 2 or 3 rookies the first game of the season aare over thank god for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoTbOy Posted April 30, 2006 Report Share Posted April 30, 2006 Somehow I just don't think Marvin cares if the ESPN "Experts" grade us out high. We had a decent grade last year... but that was the first time. We had a horrible grading the year we drafted Landon Johnson, Ratliff, and Madieu... and when you look back on it, that was probably our strongest draft.I'm not very excited about this draft, simply because I haven't seen any of the guys we drafted play... but we'll see them soon enough. In the mean-time, I'll take the "expert" opinions with a grain of salt. That is my take also Derek, I am dissappointed maybe because I have not seen any of these guys play and there were other people available that I thought would be better but I am not running the team so I hope Marvin knows best... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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