ArmyBengal Posted March 31, 2006 Report Share Posted March 31, 2006 In honor of the Sam Adams signing I just sat down on the toilet and took a massive so epic that it chipped the porcelain. Did it flush? Was it a 340 pounder?? If it is a 340 pounder, can it play DT ?? Anyway, I still love the signing and have to agree about him taking up the blockers. I don't think he was brought in to get 12 sacks this year. The LB's should be thanking Marvin. Oh yeah, put me in the camp of, if we don't get another DT early in the draft to team Adams up with, that his partner on the line should be S. Smith...WHODEY !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShulaSteakhouse Posted March 31, 2006 Report Share Posted March 31, 2006 Welcome to big Sam, now draft a DE or DT in the 1st round and continue to turnover the pathetic front-line defense here. Dexter and Sam are band-aids, but they aren't Rogers Beckett and Bryan Robinson either, they're better than those two.At this point, with Madeiu back in the line-up, you can already see this defense showing some significant improvement, if they can find some good pegs in the draft (CB, DT, DE). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted March 31, 2006 Report Share Posted March 31, 2006 Welcome to big Sam, now draft a DE or DT in the 1st round and continue to turnover the pathetic front-line defense here. Dexter and Sam are band-aids, but they aren't Rogers Beckett and Bryan Robinson either, they're better than those two.At this point, with Madeiu back in the line-up, you can already see this defense showing some significant improvement, if they can find some good pegs in the draft (CB, DT, DE). Couldn't agree with you more Shula !!! I would love to see those positions addressed first day !!!WHODEY !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaxonFord87 Posted March 31, 2006 Report Share Posted March 31, 2006 Bengals agree to contract with ex-Bill AdamsBy Len PasquarelliESPN.comFortifying a position that represented one of their biggest needs, the Cincinnati Bengals on Thursday night reached a contract agreement in principle with unrestricted free-agent defensive tackle Sam Adams, who played the past three seasons with the Buffalo Bills.Financial details of the contract were not yet available, but sources said Adams can make about $4 million in 2006 if he reaches certain playing time and performance levels. The deal will likely not be signed until the weekend. There are still some details to be completed and it is believed the Bengals want Adams to take a physical exam before the deal is officially executed.A three-time Pro Bowl performer and the kind of "anchor" tackle who occupies blockers and allows the linebackers to flow to the football, Adams should represent a major addition for a Cincinnati defense that statistically ranked No. 20 against the rush in 2005. The Bengals have been looking for a wide-body tackle in free agency the last several years but were never able to sign one.Under coach Marvin Lewis, the Bengals have surprisingly struggled against the run, finishing 25th in 2003 and 26th in 2004 against the ground game. The presence of Adams, long regarded as one of the NFL's premier inside defenders, should certainly help address that shortcoming. Adams was the No. 24 player overall in the ESPN.com free-agent rankings.Adams, 32, will probably team with John Thornton in the starting lineup. That would leave veteran Bryan Robinson and promising youngster Shaun Smith in reserve and give the Bengals one of the deepest and best tackle rotations in the league. A key for the Bengals will be to maximize Adams' effectiveness by limiting the number of snaps he plays. That should not be a problem, given that Lewis was the defensive coordinator in Baltimore when Adams helped the Ravens win Super Bowl XXXV in 2000.The Bengals will be Adams' fifth team, as he previously played with Seattle (1994-99), Baltimore (2000-01), Oakland (2002) and Buffalo (2003-05). The former Texas A&M star has 375 tackles, 42 sacks, six forced fumbles, five recoveries, three interceptions and 32 pass deflections in 179 games.His abilities against the run aside, Adams has demonstrated the ability to compress the pocket from the inside during his career. As recently as 2004, he registered five sacks, but the Bengals will rely on him primarily to clog the middle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semiotter Posted March 31, 2006 Report Share Posted March 31, 2006 If it's true, I like it. Now thats a great sig!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derekshank Posted March 31, 2006 Report Share Posted March 31, 2006 As much as Adams and S. Smith look good together on paper... it will probably only happen on 3rd and short. They will be the two substituting in for each other... because one has little endurance (Smith), and the other is no spring chicken. If they are both on the line together... the 4th quarter would probably look more like last year. THey'll be tired, and ineffective.Adams will be as effective as he was when he had Siragusa next to him, but he still provides a significant upgrade. We have another big guy who will play the run pretty well, and take up blockers (we can all agree that the run defense looked a lot better when S. Smith was in there instead of Robinson). Next to the big fat guy, you'll have a smaller guy (either Thornton or Robinson... it doesn't make much difference) who makes a living on penetrating rather than taking up blockers. With a big body in there on every down (either Adams or Smith) the play of both Robinson and Thornton should improve... as well as the play of our DE's.We're still far from having an elite D-line... but this should at least be enough to help us get a pass rush... both from the line itself, and as was stated earlier, allowing LB blitzes to be much more effective. I'm not going to praise Adams as our savior... but on paper this looks very promising... (and with Smith and Adams lining up on 3rd and short... there should be much fewer 1st downs available.)I'm still looking to get a CB in the 1st round... and signing Jackson and Adams frees up that possibility more and more. What it really does is frees us from being locked in to reach for a player at a particular position, so we can be sure to draft the best player available. So, I like the signing... even though he wasn't my first choice, he's still adequate in my book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wraith Posted March 31, 2006 Report Share Posted March 31, 2006 Reading that Browns Forum I got a chuckle from all the Stains fans claiming to be a pro bowl team...News flash guys, you still don't have a QB, your best WR bolted (Bryant), you still have MAJOR issues at the OT position, your secondary sucks, you've got a new system with lots of new players, and you won 6 games last year with only one win in the division. Give it another year Clownie fans, I'll admitt that you might replicate Lewis' second year (8-8) anything better is a pipe dream. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThortonMelon Posted March 31, 2006 Report Share Posted March 31, 2006 Reading that Browns Forum I got a chuckle from all the Stains fans claiming to be a pro bowl team...News flash guys, you still don't have a QB, your best WR bolted (Bryant), you still have MAJOR issues at the OT position, your secondary sucks, you've got a new system with lots of new players, and you won 6 games last year with only one win in the division. Give it another year Clownie fans, I'll admitt that you might replicate Lewis' second year (8-8) anything better is a pipe dream.Yeah I got a kick out the Browns board too. They think that signing a 38 year old DT, an over the hill linebacker and giving left tackle money to a center is going to get them over the hump. They still have the worst OL, the 2nd worst quarterback, the worst WRs, the 2nd worst RBs, the worst linebackers and the worst DBs in the division. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted March 31, 2006 Report Share Posted March 31, 2006 Adams is a better idea than the older Washinton and I'm more than happy with the pickup.The Browns fans on the other hand are crazy, but agree they are headed in the same direction as Marvin had us going in. Braylon Edwards will be huge for them and Frye was more than solid with the trash he had to play with and the fact he was a rookie.On that note... F*CK the Browns !!!WHODEY !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingwilly Posted March 31, 2006 Report Share Posted March 31, 2006 This signing tells me the r1 options are DE, TE or CB.In other words, Kiwi, Pope, or Cromartie. yippie! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted March 31, 2006 Report Share Posted March 31, 2006 This signing tells me the r1 options are DE, TE or CB.In other words, Kiwi, Pope, or Cromartie. yippie! And I would be happy with any of those !!! Good times !!!WHODEY !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Next_Big_Thing Posted March 31, 2006 Report Share Posted March 31, 2006 This signing tells me the r1 options are DE, TE or CB.In other words, Kiwi, Pope, or Cromartie. yippie! And I would be happy with any of those !!! Good times !!!WHODEY !!!I'd be ok with any of those guys, however, I don't think signing Dexter Jackson and Sam Adams changes anything for us in the draft.Our priorities haven't changed, we just aren't as desperate at any position. We still need another safety, defensive tackle, and defensive end. I still don't see us needing another cornerback. I don't think Tory is near done yet. I think he suffered from OSB last season, and will return to form this season, just like Deltha did last season. I haven't given up on Ratliff either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted March 31, 2006 Report Share Posted March 31, 2006 I haven't given up on Ratliff, but he hasn't been doing himself any favors either... I would love a bigger CB...WHODEY !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairOnFire Posted March 31, 2006 Report Share Posted March 31, 2006 I'm still looking to get a CB in the 1st round... and signing Jackson and Adams frees up that possibility more and more. What it really does is frees us from being locked in to reach for a player at a particular position, so we can be sure to draft the best player available. So, I like the signing... even though he wasn't my first choice, he's still adequate in my book. Well I don't like the signing, at least not at the rumored price. But with the above you're touching on something that does make me happy, as I agree that the odds just increased that the Bengals will draft a CB in the 1st round....an idea I've championed for several months now. Coupled with the Dexter Jackson signing, which I liked far more than the signing of Adams, it means the Bengals have addressed both of their biggest needs prior to the draft, thereby freeing themselves up to let the draft come to them. If a CB represents the best value, as I suspect it will, then they can take the BPA without a 2nd thought. If one of the better DE's falls to them they can consider addressing one of the hardest posiitons to fill in any draft. And last but also least, if they feel the BPA is an offensive lineman they can feel good about making a wise value choice while picking up leverage at the bargaining table. Frankly, as one of the few who doesn't like the Adams signing very much I have to admit that I can't truly hate it. At least not today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsbengalsbucks Posted March 31, 2006 Report Share Posted March 31, 2006 I dont hate the Adams signing, but cant say as i'm happy either.I am cautiously optimistic. Signing an old player to a 3 year contract could hurt if he does not see much playing time in the twilight of his great carreer.I hope as HOF has suggested that this leads to a DB pick in the first round of the draft. Having another young DB to groom behind Tory is important for next season and possibly this season if an injury were to occur.Call me nuetral on this signing, hoping that he has a great year and proves his worth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengalboomer7 Posted March 31, 2006 Report Share Posted March 31, 2006 I like it, and I like the contract cause it seems to me to be a one year deal, and if he performs, two more years on the cheap.Plus, it keeps us from having to throw guys like fanene and askew to the wolves too early. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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eclipse99t Posted March 31, 2006 Report Share Posted March 31, 2006 Holy crap! That's hilarious! Did you make that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC_Bengals_Fan Posted March 31, 2006 Report Share Posted March 31, 2006 This signing tells me the r1 options are DE, TE or CB.In other words, Kiwi, Pope, or Cromartie. yippie!I dunno. I think it still might be DT, and that's saying something. Who sucks more, Geathers, Tory, or Robinson/Thornton? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kentjett Posted March 31, 2006 Report Share Posted March 31, 2006 Tbe Browns sign Ted Washington to a 2 year 7 million dollar deal( 3.5 million a year);Adams contract calls for 3 million a year, maybe a little more. We got Sam pretty cheap, cheaper than Washington who is 38 years old. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Next_Big_Thing Posted March 31, 2006 Report Share Posted March 31, 2006 This signing tells me the r1 options are DE, TE or CB.In other words, Kiwi, Pope, or Cromartie. yippie!I dunno. I think it still might be DT, and that's saying something. Who sucks more, Geathers, Tory, or Robinson/Thornton?1. Geathers doesn't suck. He's an outside rusher who belongs on the outside on 3rd and long, not dumped into the defensive tackle position. We experimented with him last year. We'll get it right this year. The learning curve is on our side now.2. Tory doesn't suck. He suffered from OSB all last season. With that problem corrected, he will return to pro-bowl form.3. Robinson and Thornton are good backups. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengalbob Posted March 31, 2006 Report Share Posted March 31, 2006 . . . Having another young DB to groom behind Tory is important for next season and possibly this season if an injury were to occur.I'm with you on a R1 corner if only for injury security. What game was it where Deltha tweaked his knee? I'm guessing that I wasn't the only one sweating his return. CB is a position where you cannot have too much QUALITY depth. We have some depth, but I don't think it's where it should be.Sorry! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjakq27 Posted March 31, 2006 Report Share Posted March 31, 2006 This is a good signing. People will have to double team him which should allow for more pressure from the ends and a chance to blitz a LB or safety. I am glad they focused on the defense. The defense can win games whether Palmer starts the season or not. If we can get a few of the O-linemen signed to long-term deals that will make it even better.WHO DEY! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted March 31, 2006 Report Share Posted March 31, 2006 I'm pleased with the signing, but as others have said, I hope we still pursue a DT in the early rounds of the draft. If Bunkley or Watson is available at #24, I hope we take them. Adams's ability to contribute to this defense will only increase with some talented beef standing next to him. I don't think Marvin has given up on drafting one early though, or even a safety. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonboat Posted March 31, 2006 Report Share Posted March 31, 2006 I love it I was starting to think we'd lose out on him while screwing around trying to find a backup QB. At least we'll have somone who can hold up @ the LOS & won't have to watch Thornton get pushed back 5 yrds. all the time ! I'd love to see them draft a DT with the first pick to & let Adams mentor them.I'll breathe a deep sigh of relief when it's official though . I do remember the Sapp deal I also remember the Gardner deal ( not passing the physical) too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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