jjakq27 Posted March 19, 2006 Report Share Posted March 19, 2006 http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/art.../603190334/1078He said "don't go down that road", when asked about the comment made by Sam Adams' agent last week. And he is happy with what they have done so far. Let's see. They signed Bauman, D. Jackson and lost Kitna Schoebel and Walter.He might be but I am not. It is time to change the dynamics of this team and get Adams or Arrington or both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted March 19, 2006 Report Share Posted March 19, 2006 no way Arrington comes too town,we have pollack + he doesn't get along with marvin"The Bengals had tendered Walter an offer at his "draft-status" level, requiring any other team signing him to compensate the Bengals with a draft pick in the same round in which Walter entered the NFL. Walter was a seventh-round draft choice of the Giants in 2003, and the Bengals will receive Houston's seventh-round choice. The draft is April 29-30."alot people were wondering when the pick was this or next year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ox Posted March 19, 2006 Report Share Posted March 19, 2006 If we get a pick, it won't be until next season, and it will be based on the overall gain/loss through FA, and how those players performed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted March 19, 2006 Report Share Posted March 19, 2006 If we get a pick, it won't be until next season, and it will be based on the overall gain/loss through FA, and how those players performed.No. That's how compensatory picks for losing unrestricted free agents work. Walter was a restricted free agent tendered at draft level (in his case, a seventh round pick). We get Houston's 7th (first pick in the round) in the draft next month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted March 19, 2006 Report Share Posted March 19, 2006 If we get a pick, it won't be until next season, and it will be based on the overall gain/loss through FA, and how those players performed.No. That's how compensatory picks for losing unrestricted free agents work. Walter was a restricted free agent tendered at draft level (in his case, a seventh round pick). We get Houston's 7th (first pick in the round) in the draft next month. And thank you Joisey for having to repeat yourself yet again !!! I'll be more than happy to take the 1st pick in the 7th...WHODEY !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJJackson Posted March 19, 2006 Report Share Posted March 19, 2006 In fact, you have to actually own a pick in the round in question in that years upcoming draft in order to make an offer to a RFA in that fashionHad Houston not had a 7th round pick to lose, they could not have made an offer to Walter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Next_Big_Thing Posted March 19, 2006 Report Share Posted March 19, 2006 He might be but I am not. It is time to change the dynamics of this team and get Adams or Arrington or both.Yes, lets change the dynamics of this team and get a lazy bastard in Adams and a trouble maker in Arrington who thinks he is God's gift to football.1. We don't need another David Pollack, especially an older version with attitude problems.2. A fat slobberknocker who only plays 2 out of 4 downs and that's only if he feels like playing both of them is not a necessity.I don't care if they are named Lawrence Taylor, Michael Strahan, or Jesus. If they don't upgrade us, AND have the right attitude about going 100% WITHOUT off the field and in the locker room troubles, stay away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingwilly Posted March 19, 2006 Report Share Posted March 19, 2006 Guys...Arrington will be a Bengal by Friday....start dealing with it now and by mini-camp you'll probably see how much he will improve the OVERALL defense... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted March 20, 2006 Report Share Posted March 20, 2006 Guys...Arrington will be a Bengal by Friday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whur CHad At? Posted March 20, 2006 Report Share Posted March 20, 2006 Guys...Arrington will be a Bengal by Friday....start dealing with it now and by mini-camp you'll probably see how much he will improve the OVERALL defense...From everything that is being said, that is likely the case. I don't see why everyone doesn't think this is a good idea. It is just like the Deltha situation. All he needs is some new scenery and he could be fine! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted March 20, 2006 Report Share Posted March 20, 2006 Guys...Arrington will be a Bengal by FridayFrom everything that is being said, that is likely the case. Stop it, you guys are killin' me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiLBurn Posted March 20, 2006 Report Share Posted March 20, 2006 I think we would be better served to grab a Defensive Tackle before we worry about Linebackers. Their is pretty good depth at LB in this years draft, especially OLB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted March 20, 2006 Report Share Posted March 20, 2006 Guys...Arrington will be a Bengal by Friday....start dealing with it now and by mini-camp you'll probably see how much he will improve the OVERALL defense...From everything that is being said, that is likely the case. I don't see why everyone doesn't think this is a good idea. It is just like the Deltha situation. All he needs is some new scenery and he could be fine!because him and ML diden't get along as redskins why would they now also he's going to want big money why should we waste money on the only spot on defense were deep in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybren Posted March 20, 2006 Report Share Posted March 20, 2006 Guys...Arrington will be a Bengal by Friday....start dealing with it now and by mini-camp you'll probably see how much he will improve the OVERALL defense...From everything that is being said, that is likely the case. I don't see why everyone doesn't think this is a good idea. It is just like the Deltha situation. All he needs is some new scenery and he could be fine!You really think the scenery was Arrington's problem? That he'll get smarter and more disciplined with a Mike Brown contract, then he was with a Daniel Snyder contract?Put the money elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whur CHad At? Posted March 20, 2006 Report Share Posted March 20, 2006 I havent heard much about him and Marvin not getting along, I have heard that they both were fine together, and Lavar wants to play for Marvin sometime again. He had his best, Pro Bowl season under Lewis..so they had to be good in some areas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybren Posted March 20, 2006 Report Share Posted March 20, 2006 I havent heard much about him and Marvin not getting along, I have heard that they both were fine together, and Lavar wants to play for Marvin sometime again. He had his best, Pro Bowl season under Lewis..so they had to be good in some areasHe had his best year with Marvin, but he fought it, kicking and screaming, the whole way. Marvin basically had him play like Pollack did last year, which requires the player to actually use his brain and be able to do more than just use the same football instincts he's been relying upon since Pop Warner. And LaVar wasn't hearing it.Now, look back at last season, where another top defensive coordinator challenged LaVar, and see what happened. Same attitude, but without the results. And the team chose to have his bloated contract ride the bench.And you think this is something we want to invite onto our team of hard-working, but still impressionable youngsters? You really want Odell anywhere near this guy? I'd sooner pair Chris Henry with Terrell Owens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJJackson Posted March 20, 2006 Report Share Posted March 20, 2006 Arrington will be a Bengal....start dealing with it nowIf you're right, and I hope and pray you are not, I will never, ever, ever stop kicking and screaming about it.I'm still pissed about Two Carry Perry, and always will be. This on the other hand will be far, far worse.Why not just sign Lawrence Taylor and get it over with? He's available, and he'll be happy to tell you that he can still rush the passer, and how he'll be a plus in the locker room.Maybe the lawyer working for Chris Henry can get Rae Carruth out on parole for us. He'd upgrade our receiving corps for sure!Is Dimitrius Underwood still available? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingwilly Posted March 20, 2006 Report Share Posted March 20, 2006 4 defensive coordinators in 4 years...plus an injury.Give him some continuity in a scheme and keep him healthy...you'll see. He is a Pro Bowl-er for a reason...the pessimism is unreal...go watch some arena football or something....jeez. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjakq27 Posted March 20, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2006 He might be but I am not. It is time to change the dynamics of this team and get Adams or Arrington or both.Yes, lets change the dynamics of this team and get a lazy bastard in Adams and a trouble maker in Arrington who thinks he is God's gift to football.1. We don't need another David Pollack, especially an older version with attitude problems.2. A fat slobberknocker who only plays 2 out of 4 downs and that's only if he feels like playing both of them is not a necessity.I don't care if they are named Lawrence Taylor, Michael Strahan, or Jesus. If they don't upgrade us, AND have the right attitude about going 100% WITHOUT off the field and in the locker room troubles, stay away. You have convinced me. Let's just sit here and do nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schweinhart Posted March 20, 2006 Report Share Posted March 20, 2006 I remember watching Arrington shove a pie of shaving cream square in the face of Sean Taylor when Taylor showed up his rookie year IIRC. Taylor was pi$$ed but Lavar thought it was hilarious.But as for him in stripes, he'd definitely be on the field. Money wise would seem a rub. Arrington paid $4 mill to free himself of the Skins and proly wants that plus whatever he was set to make to play this year. Add to this how bashful Mike Brown is about handing out big gobs of money to anyone, much a less a player like Arrington who has been a malcontent -- albeit with some good reason after getting Snydered out of millions in a contract his agent let go.Overall, they could have done better signing somebody for the kind of money Arrington has to be expected to ask, say Maake Kemoeatu. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted March 20, 2006 Report Share Posted March 20, 2006 Overall, they could have done better signing somebody for the kind of money Arrington has to be expected to ask, say Maake Kemoeatu. I could be wrong, but didn't he already get signed? Panthers, I believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schweinhart Posted March 20, 2006 Report Share Posted March 20, 2006 Yeah, the Panthers outbid everybody for Big Kemo, something like $8 mill in guarnteed money IIRC. The operative words there was "could have". But I wouldn't be surprised if the Bengals never even were in contact with Kemo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairOnFire Posted March 20, 2006 Report Share Posted March 20, 2006 He had his best year with Marvin, but he fought it, kicking and screaming, the whole way. Marvin basically had him play like Pollack did last year, which requires the player to actually use his brain and be able to do more than just use the same football instincts he's been relying upon since Pop Warner. And LaVar wasn't hearing it.Now, look back at last season, where another top defensive coordinator challenged LaVar, and see what happened. Same attitude, but without the results. And the team chose to have his bloated contract ride the bench. My take on it is different than yours. I think Marvin attempted to minimize the undisciplined play that Arrington is known for by using him largely in the designated pass rusher role. He essentially took the thinking part of the game out of Arrington's control and instead did everything possible to maximize Arrington's rare speed, quickness, and power. And he only used him in coverage when down and distance took half the guesswork out of the defensive playcalling. On most plays all Lavar needed to know was eyes forward, ears back, go get the QB. Pure Joker stuff, right? Arrington clearly didn't like the role at first...remember his loud complaint about how he wasn't a DE?...but the role did grow on him before the season ended, largely because Arrington suddenly had many people comparing him to LT. However, those comparisons stopped almost immediately after Lewis boarded a plane for the river city, and I'm guessing that Arrington noticed. One of the things that has changed since Marvin left is the new coaches have all demanded that Arrington become a more complete player, and he hasn't been up to the task. He's simply not a very good read and react type of OLB, and that's where complaints about his lack of discipline begin. But regardless of what anyone here thinks about the potential signing it's become obvious that someone with the Bengals wants Arrington in stripes, and knowing how much it'll cost under the best circumstances there has to be a very good reason why. So ask yourself what that might be instead of focusing on the negative. Try to come up with your own theory why they're talking. BTW, here's my theory in a nutshell. Lavar Arrington can play the Greg Lloyd role opposite David Pollacks Kevin Greene. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted March 20, 2006 Report Share Posted March 20, 2006 Yeah, the Panthers outbid everybody for Big Kemo, something like $8 mill in guarnteed money IIRC. The operative words there was "could have". But I wouldn't be surprised if the Bengals never even were in contact with Kemo. Oh, I missed the "could have." And I give people crap for quoting without reading closely! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesbrooks21 Posted March 20, 2006 Report Share Posted March 20, 2006 Arrington will be a Bengal....start dealing with it nowIf you're right, and I hope and pray you are not, I will never, ever, ever stop kicking and screaming about it.I'm still pissed about Two Carry Perry, and always will be. This on the other hand will be far, far worse.Why not just sign Lawrence Taylor and get it over with? He's available, and he'll be happy to tell you that he can still rush the passer, and how he'll be a plus in the locker room.Maybe the lawyer working for Chris Henry can get Rae Carruth out on parole for us. He'd upgrade our receiving corps for sure!Is Dimitrius Underwood still available?Are you serious with that? That has to be the dumbest s**t I have ever heard. Please tell me how those three have anything in common with Arrington. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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