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Is waiting for a QB going to bite us in the ass ???


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not only will great players look else where - such as sam adams

but the more we wait the slimmer the field gets

Its time to show outsiders looking in, we want them here

and are willing to pay

not play the waiting game !!!!!!!!!!!!

ex - sigh adams before a QB :seehearspeak:

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No... waiting won't bite us. Most experts say the teams that aren't makinga lot of moves are the stable teams that know how to succeed in the NFL. I doubt that QB is the only reason we aren't signing any big names. Think about it... how many signing have the Steelers, or Seahawks made? How about other teams that are usually in the playoffs, like the Colts, Pats and Panthers? The only signings any of these teams have really made are signing their own players... and in most cases, not even that (the Pats are letting everyone leave)

The Bengals have been watching the Pats for a long time... trying to learn how to build a dynasty... and jumping the gun on guys like Arrington and Adams is something the Pats would never have done. They took their shots on guys later in free agency, and turned them into all-stars.

I know it's no fun during free agency time... but when we have a team that is in the running for the SuperBowl for 5-10 straight years... you'll be glad we didn't spend all our money in the super-sweepstakes panic of the 2006 new CBA Free agency.

Teams like the Redskins and Browns are perrennial losers, not winners. So, think about it. Who would you rather be like?

(Dear Joisey... I'm not saying we shouldn't be in the running for any free agents, I'm just saying that missing out in the huge names in free agency is something that is generally true for most long-term winners... I do hope we get a few more guys... but if we don't... hey, at least we are talking about extending our own guys)

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The alternative is to quickly sign the biggest names in free agency, without thinking about how to build a good team and end up like the Redskins. Oh wait, our method has been just as effective as theirs has hasn't it?

The fact is, until we know how much we have left after signing a QB, we don't know how much we can offer Sam Adams and company.

As for him looking for greener pastures, haven't you noticed he's pretty much not getting many looks?

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..Now we see from Hobsin that Harrington is on the radar, as well as Tony Banks....for chrissakes..why not bring in Jeff George for a look..

if this is the type of players we are going to waster our time on....you may as well draft a guy....

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I wouldn't mind having Joey Harrington... but he would probably rather go someplace he can compete for a job. Chances are someone will take a flyer on him... but there would be no better place for him to raise his stock than come to Cincy.

We have a good line, good receivers (that actually catch the ball when you hit them in the hands)... good running game... you know, all the things he didn't have in Detroit. I bet he could succeed here for a few games... but he probably won't come. Besides, I think we'd be better off having a guy willing to accept his role as a backup... like Martin.

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Bite us in the ass? I don't know, but I'm encouraged that they're considering a better crop of backup QB's. Greise and Ramsey have warts, but they're an upgrade over some of the names being bounced around. All things considered I'd prefer to wait as long as needed because that's a pretty important position.

That said, losing out on Sam Adams isn't enough of a threat to worry me....mostly because I don't want him to start with.

As for the Arrington passion play, Adam Schefter(sp?) on the NFL Network mentioned earlier in the week that interest in him had heated up...naming a half dozen teams, but claimed that Arrington was willing to give the Bengals the last bid. Marvin Lewis was said to be closely monitoring the negotiations and after they shook out would determine if the Bengals were interested in matching.

Take the above with the proverbial grain of salt, but the relationship between Lewis and Arrington was being portrayed as the type of ace in the hole the Bengals have NEVER had before.

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Waiting around...will bnite us in the AZZZ...

Here are the FA QB's and their status,. relative to us:

Guys who would acutally be OK.

Griese...coming to town...then going to Chicage.

Brooks....goint ot visit TB...have we even called this guy;s agent?

Ramsey...still a Redskin...they will want value for him...I don't think we have anything to give except picks..no thanks.

Schaub...they are holding him too tight because they need him, so.. he'll never get loose..Vick will bust this year and Schaub will start by week 7.

Guys who we should not even sniff

Harrington...just got the boot...will back-up somewhere but not here.

K. Collins...proably heading to Baltiomore

Banks....please.

Martin...visited...they would have signed him, unless they thought there were better options.

Rosenfetus...next in line at the sack festival in Houston.

McCown...one of Millens victims

Kitna...one of Millens victims

If we fudge with Griese and let him head to Chicago, he's a goner...all while they spin their wheels Brooks is getting looks...Ramsey could end up in Oakland when this plays out...and where does all this dallying leave us???? it leaves us with the scrubs...Banks, Martin, harrington...spare us.

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Bite us in the ass? I don't know, but I'm encouraged that they're considering a better crop of backup QB's. Greise and Ramsey have warts, but they're an upgrade over some of the names being bounced around. All things considered I'd prefer to wait as long as needed because that's a pretty important position.

That said, losing out on Sam Adams isn't enough of a threat to worry me....mostly because I don't want him to start with.

As for the Arrington passion play, Adam Schefter(sp?) on the NFL Network mentioned earlier in the week that interest in him had heated up...naming a half dozen teams, but claimed that Arrington was willing to give the Bengals the last bid. Marvin Lewis was said to be closely monitoring the negotiations and after they shook out would determine if the Bengals were interested in matching.

Take the above with the proverbial grain of salt, but the relationship between Lewis and Arrington was being portrayed as the type of ace in the hole the Bengals have NEVER had before.

That's pretty cool. So what would it take for us to just, I don't know, sign him without playing games?

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Being patient is a virtue. If the Bengals had rushed right into free agency and signed some stiff like Rosenfels, Griese(who is a much better QB) would not be an option, since he had yet to hit the market. Moreover, one of the best FA signing by the Bengals in recent years has been Bobbie Williams. They signed him late in the free agency period.

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By them letting Kitna go and they really don't seem to be in a hurry to get a QB....I think Carson is doing fine.... I think they really want another QB to take one of the spots we have now..Krenzel has been here a year, Johnson just signed...maybe they have seen enough of him to know they better get someone else(Krenzel)...You can't miss, something you never had...I would wait...

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I think the bottom line is the Bengals pretty much know they can sign Martin to a contract.. I dont see many teams knocking on his agents door to have him visit... He's 36yrs old and a lifetime backup.

Sam Adams doesnt appear to be generating allot of interest either probably due to his productivity slipping of late...

They want something better but will settle for these two if nothing materializes before long...

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Blank is petrified :( of being in same spot as he was in 2003 when Michael Vick was injured early in the season and Doug Johnson took over and floundered, ruining the season.

I got this from another story maybe this why they are taking so long...take as long as u need...

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I got this from another story maybe this why they are taking so long...take as long as u need...

It isn't a matter of the Bengals "taking their time." It's that no QB is particularly interested in the job. I think that's obvious enough. Younger guys who still harbor hopes of starting (legit or not) want to go someplace where they have a chance to win the No. 1 spot...or at least some hope it could be theirs if not this year then next. Older Jamie Martin-types can take it or leave it, and with the Bengals not offering any more than any other team in the backup QB market, why rush to sign?

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I got this from another story maybe this why they are taking so long...take as long as u need...

It isn't a matter of the Bengals "taking their time." It's that no QB is particularly interested in the job. I think that's obvious enough. Younger guys who still harbor hopes of starting (legit or not) want to go someplace where they have a chance to win the No. 1 spot...or at least some hope it could be theirs if not this year then next. Older Jamie Martin-types can take it or leave it, and with the Bengals not offering any more than any other team in the backup QB market, why rush to sign?

Exactly !!! We've been saying that form the start about how hard it would be to find someone to come in here knowing Carson would be back and take the job. I still find it hard to conceive that whole concept of "I'll get the opportunity to shine and then move on next year" thing... Obviously, other QB's don't see it that way either and you know that's not Martin's viewpoint on the subject as he's never going to start ANYWHERE EVER AGAIN. I like Greasy, but still think it's going to be Martin...

WHODEY !!!

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Exactly !!! We've been saying that form the start about how hard it would be to find someone to come in here knowing Carson would be back and take the job. I still find it hard to conceive that whole concept of "I'll get the opportunity to shine and then move on next year" thing... Obviously, other QB's don't see it that way either and you know that's not Martin's viewpoint on the subject as he's never going to start ANYWHERE EVER AGAIN. I like Greasy, but still think it's going to be Martin...

WHODEY !!!

Yeah, Lewis confirmerd their struggles to sign someone are not by choice in comments in the Walters story today:

Bucs quarterback Brian Griese had a physical Saturday, but there was no deal as he prepared to head to Chicago.

“We’re having a tough time getting people to come here and play because they know they’re sitting behind Carson (Palmer),” Lewis said.

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Exactly !!! We've been saying that form the start about how hard it would be to find someone to come in here knowing Carson would be back and take the job. I still find it hard to conceive that whole concept of "I'll get the opportunity to shine and then move on next year" thing... Obviously, other QB's don't see it that way either and you know that's not Martin's viewpoint on the subject as he's never going to start ANYWHERE EVER AGAIN. I like Greasy, but still think it's going to be Martin...

WHODEY !!!

Yeah, Lewis confirmerd their struggles to sign someone are not by choice in comments in the Walters story today:

Bucs quarterback Brian Griese had a physical Saturday, but there was no deal as he prepared to head to Chicago.

“We’re having a tough time getting people to come here and play because they know they’re sitting behind Carson (Palmer),” Lewis said.

From the same story;

" The ( salary ) cap went up, but the players didn't get any better. "

Marvin Lewis commenting on the Bengals only signing 1 player during the first week of free agency. B)

The clear ... uncluttered truth of this statement rings of pure genius. :lol: How could anyone not like this man ??????

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" The ( salary ) cap went up, but the players didn't get any better. "

Marvin Lewis commenting on the Bengals only signing 1 player during the first week of free agency. B)

The clear ... uncluttered truth of this statement rings of pure genius. :lol: How could anyone not like this man ??????

The cap goes up...every year.

Players don't get better...every year.

Genius? No?

A man after Mikey's heart? Yup.

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bring casey back
That is what i think also....he is just as good as what's out there, did everything the Bengals asked..went to Europe...and I thought he was better in preseason..than Krenzel...
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Is waiting for a QB going to bite us in the ass ???

IMHO, with Josh McCown signing in Detroit along with Jon Kitna, it already has! There simply wasn't a better option out there to run the Bengals multi-faceted offense until Carson returns than the ex-Cardinal, who teamed with Kurt Warner, had the #1 passing offense in the league last season! If there was, I'd sure like to know who!

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