Favorite and least favorite pick?

[cincyhokie]

I'm going with Gino Atkins, DT. The guy plays tough, high motor and energy. Fast as hell for his size. Strong. Completely abused Iupati at the Senior Bowl. Anchor of the UGA defense. Great value in the 4th and can really add some pressure to our pass rush. Shipley is a close second.

Least favorite? If I had to pick one, it might be the 5th round pick of Otis Hudson. I like the choice going with depth at OG but there seemed to be some better talent available. More of a project that will land on the PS.

[Trevor]

My favorite is dunlap... I wouldnt mind him at 21 but we got him at 54!!!!!!!!!!!! Least favorite, otis also, but our coach thinks very high of him

[JoePong]

Otis Hudson is my favorite pick. I'd much rather take a talented guy like him who has the physical ability to be a starter, than some other guy with limited potential who may be more ready to play but will never amount to anything. I don't care if he contributes right away or not. Same thing we did with the Fanene pick in the 6th round a few years back.

[skyline]

Gresham is my favorite. We've been wanting to Bengals to take the TE positions seriously for years now, and they finally did. In a big way.

Otis is my least favorite. Not because I'm opposed to risk-taking like this in the 5th round, but only because I wonder if he still would have been there as an UDFA. According to his interview, he and his agent were both expecting that. That said, I'm excited about the ceiling for him if the coaches are able to help him reach it.

[AMC]

Favorite was Jordan Shipley. Will really open things up, along with Gresham, up the middle. Also can deceptively get upfield.

The WR position will be the most interesting going into training camp.

Don't really have a least favorite. I will say Dunlap in the 2nd represents the largest amount of risk by far.

[cincyhokie]

Otis Hudson is my favorite pick. I'd much rather take a talented guy like him who has the physical ability to be a starter, than some other guy with limited potential who may be more ready to play but will never amount to anything. I don't care if he contributes right away or not. Same thing we did with the Fanene pick in the 6th round a few years back.

If the profile on him is accurate he does have some promise. He sounds like a project meaning a year or 2 potentially on the practice squad. If that's the case, then there's the risk that he can be signed by another team. I hear you, though, he might have some big time potential. Credit the scouts for looking at Eastern Illinois.

[redsbengalsbucks]

To be honest here, I cant really get excited either way on any of the picks. All have potential and question marks. This draft has left me feeling, Blah.

A very middle of the road draft, hopefully I will grow into loving some of these picks. For right now though, I will just watch and see.

[cincyhokie]

Gresham, Shipley, Atkins. All 3 will, or could, have immediate impact.

[ArmyBengal]

I'll just list them in order and go from there:

#1. Gresham- Day one starter that gives Carson another option and should open up the passing game.

#2. (TIE) Shipley, Dunlap, Atkins- All three have the ability to get time in their rookie seasons and provide some impact.

#5. Briscoe- I really do think he will have a shot at making the roster. If nothing else, can Simpson and move on with Briscoe.

#6. (TIE) Ghee, Muckelroy- They both provide some added depth to the secondary and linebacking corps, so no real complaints there.

#8. Stephens- Added depth to the o-line and would have preferred him be the 5th round pick.

#9. Hudson- Still HATE this pick. Would have gone undrafted and we could have had Blount. HATE THIS PICK !!!

So to answer the question more directly:

Favorite- Gresham

Least- Hudson

[cincyhokie]

I like the Dunlap pick too.

I'm getting a kick out of reading some of the media reactions and other fan reactions regarding the Dunlap pick.

More than likely if the Bengals had not taken him at 54, he would have been a Raven at 57. If that had happened, the Ravens would be again regarded as geniuses for taking him.

Bengals take him, and it's more of the "here we go again" type feedback. Lame. Lame and stale.

[NJ29]

I like the Dunlap pick too.

I'm getting a kick out of reading some of the media reactions and other fan reactions regarding the Dunlap pick.

More than likely if the Bengals had not taken him at 54, he would have been a Raven at 57. If that had happened, the Ravens would be again regarded as geniuses for taking him.

Bengals take him, and it's more of the "here we go again" type feedback. Lame. Lame and stale.

Yup. On all accounts, Dunlap has been regarded as a good, smart kid who made a big mistake. I don't think he's the terrible villain that he's been painted as.

I'll do it in order like Army...

1.) Gresham - Give Carson a tall weapon who appears to be a great team guy and a gym rat.

2.) Dunlap - Does a lot to upgrade the pass rush with pure athleticism and versatility. Allows them to come up with some interesting packages on passing downs.

3.) Atkins - I would have had no problems with picking this guy up in the third. Gives them real depth there, and some pass rush ability for third down.

4.) Muckelroy - You know Marv, Zim and Fitz love their smart LBs, and Muck is just a good football player, period.

5.) Shipley - Slowly warming up to this, but another dude who is just a damn good football player. With him working in the slot along with Bryant and Chad on the outside, they can probably force defenses into some terrible mismatches with Jermaine.

6.) Briscoe - Again, if you would've taken him in the fourth, nobody would've complained. He's a good value, and hopefully shows Simpson the door.

7.) Ghee - I like the kid a lot, hopefully he can push Trent for the nickel job.

8.) Stephens - Another G/C, probably sent to the practice squad.

9.) Hudson - I don't have a problem with the kid, I think he can develop into something interesting, I just think they could have taken a pretty damn good safety at that point still, and they could have had him as a free agent. I don't completely hate the pick though, and I think he can turn into something interesting.

Overall, my least favorite pick is simply the fact that they didn't pick up a safety. Hopefully the Miles kid that they picked up in FA can turn into something.

[derekshank]

1) Dunlap - Talent and skill set of a top 10 player. Just needs to learn how to be a professional.

2) Shipley - While this doesn't give the Bengals a vertical threat, Housh has finally been replaced.

3) Ghee - One way or another, this kid will help the team. He's instantly the most talented DB not named Hall or Joseph.

4) Muckelroy - The kid loves football. He was also maybe best coverage LB in the draft. Look for him to replace Dhani on passing downs.

5) Atkins - Not an every down player, but I'm starting to think the Bengals D-Line on passing downs is going to be scary.

6) Gresham - He'll help the team... but he didn't play football last year, has bad knees, and wasn't BPA.

7) Hudson - He's a project, and I'm fine with it. He'll become a useful tool in time.

8) Stephens - How much can you complain about O-Line depth in the 7th round?

9) Briscoe - I said I was going to try to stop bitching about this pick... so if you want my opinion, read the Briscoe thread.

[HoosierCat]

Favorite? Otis, just because everyone is hating on him.

Least favorite? Don't have one.

[derekshank]

Favorite? Otis, just because everyone is hating on him.

Least favorite? Don't have one.

Don't lump me in. I like 5th round O-Line projects.

Just not as much as I like 1st round TEs with bad knees.

[Kazkal]

Shipley I think he'll be more productive then people think...least I'll actually go with our 5th rounder Otis IMO we should have went safety with who was left on the board with that being said I don't hate the guy was just where I wish we took another player.

Total order

1a.)Shipley

1b.) Gresham

1c.) Dunlap -

1d.) Ghee -

1e.) Muckelroy -

1f.) Briscoe -

1g.)Atkins

1h.)Stephen

1i.)Hudson -

Don't lump me in. I like 5th round O-Line projects.

Oh I agree good teams are able develop those later Oline Prospects,Just would have preferred Rolle or Jones but its all good not gonna Rage over it like some people did about some of the picks

Just not as much as I like 1st round TEs with bad knees.

WHo would you have preferred a WR with suspect ticker? a Linebacker who had enough injury concerns to knock him down from 2nd round? seems like there were medical concerns on a few guys we liked...

PS Munoz had bad knees no?

[ArmyBengal]

Hate harping just like Derek, but both of our O-line prospects had the lowest rating assigned to NFL prospects heading into the draft per Scouts.inc and another reason I wasn't fond (is that better) of the selection in the 5th round. It really doesn't have anything to do with him as a player, but rather the fact we drafted him in the 5th round. He presented absolutely no value whatsoever and could have been had later. Yeah, I would have much rather had Myron Rolle right there or even Blount for that matter, as they were both a better value with the selection and would have had the chance to make a greater impact on this team sooner rather than later (if at all).

Don't get me wrong, I love having developing players, but not at the expense of better players. Obviously the coaches and organization know more than I and I'm not saying they don't. This is simply from this fans perspective. I will finish it by saying that I hope old Otis becomes a solid player on the o-line for years to come, but I just don't see it.

The o-line will continue to be a need to be addressed and when they do, he will lose his spot and usefulness.

[derekshank]

The o-line will continue to be a need to be addressed and when they do, he will lose his spot and usefulness.

I'll break your sentence down into two separate statements.

1) "The o-line will continue to be a need to be addressed."

I agree fully. I certainly am not saying that Otis completes the O-Line. That said, there wasn't any lineman available that you could say that about. As far as taking one earlier... Well, other than the Ghee pick (which I really liked), I can't think of a place where I would have preferred an O-Lineman to the guy they picked.

2) "when they do, he will lose his spot."

You might be right. I don't know the future... but I bet you're wrong. I wouldn't wager my house on it or anything, but I have a hard time believing that he'll be cut if they draft a 1st round OG next year. I think he has far more upside than Livings. He may never be a starter, but I don think Livings should be either.

They did well in developing Livings as an undrafted FA to come in a contribute when Mathis got hurt. I think Otis can eventually be a significant upgrade over Lvings in that department, so that if an OG does get injured and misses a few games - we'll be happy the Bengals grabbed him.

Is it the pick I would have made? Probably not, but I wanted an O-Lineman earlier than later... and if he was the highest O-Lineman on their board, who am I to argue?

[ArmyBengal]

Honestly Derek, I'm glad someone here has some optimism about his future with the team. I just simply wished I shared it and I seriously hope I'm wrong.

Sort of like how you view Briscoe...

[derekshank]

Honestly Derek, I'm glad someone here has some optimism about his future with the team. I just simply wished I shared it and I seriously hope I'm wrong.

Sort of like how you view Briscoe...

Touché

[TJJackson]

Favorite pick - Dunlap (he's a lineman, right? hehe) Runner up - Geno.

Least favorite pick - the picks not made of a cover safety, developmental QB (Pike would have rocked) and a big power running back

[kingwilly]

Favorite? Otis, just because everyone is hating on him.

Least favorite? Don't have one.

Contrarian.

Liver is your favorite cut of meat too, right?

[princeton]

I will see less of the following on the field in 2010: Geathers, Coats, Orien Harris, Caldwell? there's even a smart linebacker who might replace Slo-Mo Dhani? how can I be upset about any of that? that's solid.

some receiver might actually separate quickly from coverage? how cool would that be?

Bengals weren't subtle with their draft message, were they? All of our 2009 receivers suck, and we knew it. And Matt Jones, you're new but we already knew that you suck too.

on the nobody's perfect side of things-- do you mean to tell me that Tom Nelson might still see the field in 2010? Say it ain't so!! it was a draft with only 7 safeties, and all 7 were gone by our rd 3 pick. So, Marvin gave the "but we like our guys" speech (you do remember that Corey Lynch left, Marvin?) but he used to say that about the wide receivers, too. I say that in 2011, we'll be drafting safeties like we drafted receivers in 2010.

I also think that we will learn quickly that Ghee is cornerback toast. Gee Ghee-- what about safety?

[redsbengalsbucks]

I will see less of the following on the field in 2010: Geathers, Coats, Orien Harris, Caldwell? there's even a smart linebacker who might replace Slo-Mo Dhani? how can I be upset about any of that? that's solid.

some receiver might actually separate quickly from coverage? how cool would that be?

Bengals weren't subtle with their draft message, were they? All of our 2009 receivers suck, and we knew it. And Matt Jones, you're new but we already knew that you suck too.

on the nobody's perfect side of things-- do you mean to tell me that Tom Nelson might still see the field in 2010? Say it ain't so!! it was a draft with only 7 safeties, and all 7 were gone by our rd 3 pick. So, Marvin gave the "but we like our guys" speech (you do remember that Corey Lynch left, Marvin?) but he used to say that about the wide receivers, too. I say that in 2011, we'll be drafting safeties like we drafted receivers in 2010.

I also think that we will learn quickly that Ghee is cornerback toast. Gee Ghee-- what about safety?

IMO Ghee will push for the nickel-corner job this season. Hopefully it will be upgraded by Ghee, Jones or Trent this season, it was a problem last year.

[Wraith]

Favorite Pick: Really Like Brandon Ghee, fast and quick corner who like to get physical seems like a perfect Coyle guy.

Least Favorite Pick: Dunlap, I wanted either Cody or Spikes at this slot. Heck, Everson Griffen was the higher rated DE on most boards and is the more accomplished pass rusher. Seems like Dunlap is a jack of all trades master of none kind of guy, has the speed to be a good not great pass rusher has the body to be a great run stopper but doesn't seem to display the motor. I seemed like we could have used a better guy in that slot my opinion.

Over all not a throw a beer bottle at the TV sort of draft but feel short of last year's blockbuster, as always I am critical of the Bengals unwillingness to go hard after guys they have targeted on the board. When Mays fell to 48 are you telling me the Bengals couldn't have put together a package to get up 6 spots in the 2nd round, what would that have cost a 5th? and 6th? Can you imagine what this draft would have looked like with Mays in the second? They got alot of good guys and filled most (if not all) their needs but I just feel like they could have been more creative and aggressive.

[skyline]

Over all not a throw a beer bottle at the TV sort of draft but feel short of last year's blockbuster, as always I am critical of the Bengals unwillingness to go hard after guys they have targeted on the board. When Mays fell to 48 are you telling me the Bengals couldn't have put together a package to get up 6 spots in the 2nd round, what would that have cost a 5th? and 6th? Can you imagine what this draft would have looked like with Mays in the second? They got alot of good guys and filled most (if not all) their needs but I just feel like they could have been more creative and aggressive.

A couple of relevant paragraphs from Hobson's latest read:

The Bengals tried to trade up and get USC safety Taylor Mays in the second round, but they held to team president Mike Brown's old saw of not giving up too many draft picks. They were rewarded with Dunlap at No. 54, Shipley at No. 84, and Georgia defensive tackle Geno Atkins at No. 120. Two pass rushers and a pass catcher.

So, it's all in the eyes of the beholder. The Bengals stayed pat and the Pats, as usual, didn't."It depends on your philosophy," said the ex-GM. "The Patriots and the Eagles, established teams, have shown they'll trade to get up and down. But there are good teams that don't do much of it. The Giants. The Colts. And the Ravens don't do much of it because they like their picks."