BengalPappaw Posted March 6, 2006 Report Posted March 6, 2006 I spent some time reviewing the Combine and game tapes and am climbing on the Jason Allen bandwagon, if we are taking a corner -- who incidentally can/has played safety.Great news -- the Bengals will have good choices!! Quote
Whur CHad At? Posted March 6, 2006 Report Posted March 6, 2006 Hester or Allen are fine choices in my book. Either one would look good in stripes... Quote
ArmyBengal Posted March 7, 2006 Report Posted March 7, 2006 I know it might not be the popular pick because of the what ifs at other positions, but boy it would be exciting to see Hester back there returning punts. Sort of like looking forward to seeing Ginn from Ohio St. everytime he touches the ball. God knows I'm sick of seeing Ratliff look like he's never been on the field when returns punts. Hey Ratliff, try running ahead as opposed to side to side. Boy he frustrated the hell out of me last year...WHODEY !!! Quote
NJ29 Posted March 7, 2006 Report Posted March 7, 2006 I know it might not be the popular pick because of the what ifs at other positions, but boy it would be exciting to see Hester back there returning punts. Sort of like looking forward to seeing Ginn from Ohio St. everytime he touches the ball. God knows I'm sick of seeing Ratliff look like he's never been on the field when returns punts. Hey Ratliff, try running ahead as opposed to side to side. Boy he frustrated the hell out of me last year...WHODEY !!!If you want someone to run straight ahead, Hester aint your guy. The guy's overrated. Quote
Whur CHad At? Posted March 7, 2006 Report Posted March 7, 2006 I know it might not be the popular pick because of the what ifs at other positions, but boy it would be exciting to see Hester back there returning punts. Sort of like looking forward to seeing Ginn from Ohio St. everytime he touches the ball. God knows I'm sick of seeing Ratliff look like he's never been on the field when returns punts. Hey Ratliff, try running ahead as opposed to side to side. Boy he frustrated the hell out of me last year...WHODEY !!!If you want someone to run straight ahead, Hester aint your guy. The guy's overrated.Watching film he doesnt look overrated. He def. is an major upgrade over PWubb and Krat Quote
TJJackson Posted March 7, 2006 Report Posted March 7, 2006 I really like Jason Allen - in r2.He's everything you could want in a DB, imho, and his only big minus is his tendency to get injuried. Unfortunately, in my book, a tendency to get injured is perhaps the worst minus a player can have. Quote
ArmyBengal Posted March 7, 2006 Report Posted March 7, 2006 I know it might not be the popular pick because of the what ifs at other positions, but boy it would be exciting to see Hester back there returning punts. Sort of like looking forward to seeing Ginn from Ohio St. everytime he touches the ball. God knows I'm sick of seeing Ratliff look like he's never been on the field when returns punts. Hey Ratliff, try running ahead as opposed to side to side. Boy he frustrated the hell out of me last year...WHODEY !!!If you want someone to run straight ahead, Hester aint your guy. The guy's overrated. Going back and watching the games this past season would indicate otherwise, but besides that, 4.27 speed helps out greatly !!! I'm just frustrated with Ratliff and would love to see some electricity back there returning kicks. Once again, not saying he's the best option or that it will happen, but I wouldn't mind either...WHODEY !!! Quote
TJJackson Posted March 7, 2006 Report Posted March 7, 2006 I wouldn't mind Hester in r3 or beyond Quote
ArmyBengal Posted March 7, 2006 Report Posted March 7, 2006 I wouldn't mind Hester in r3 or beyond I was thinking round 3 or 4 myself, but with the super fast time he posted at his pro day, he might be gone before we pick in the 3rd. We shall see...WHODEY !!! Quote
TJJackson Posted March 7, 2006 Report Posted March 7, 2006 There were players just as fast that were picked later last yearPatrick Body is in that speed range, and he wasn't even draftedSpeed is good, very very good, but it ain't everything :-) Quote
ArmyBengal Posted March 7, 2006 Report Posted March 7, 2006 Patrick Body is no Devin Hester in my opinion either, but I get what you are saying... WHODEY !!! Quote
The_Next_Big_Thing Posted March 7, 2006 Report Posted March 7, 2006 Speed is good, very very good, but it ain't everything :-)Indeed. Tory James ain't that fast, but he just went to a pro-bowl last year. There's a lot more to covering people than being fast. Quote
kingwilly Posted March 7, 2006 Report Posted March 7, 2006 Tory James went to the Pro Bowl due to his interceptions and the his popularity with the stat geeks, not based on his speed or tackling ability...or even his ability to cover people. Quote
The_Next_Big_Thing Posted March 7, 2006 Report Posted March 7, 2006 Tory James went to the Pro Bowl due to his interceptions and the his popularity with the stat geeks, not based on his speed or tackling ability...or even his ability to cover people.Speed alone does not a corner make. James isn't the fastest corner out there, but he's effective. I'd rather have a guy who takes drives away with interceptions than a guy who is really fast. Quote
ArmyBengal Posted March 7, 2006 Report Posted March 7, 2006 Tory James went to the Pro Bowl due to his interceptions and the his popularity with the stat geeks, not based on his speed or tackling ability...or even his ability to cover people.Speed alone does not a corner make. James isn't the fastest corner out there, but he's effective. I'd rather have a guy who takes drives away with interceptions than a guy who is really fast. I agree with all of you guys to tell you the truth... I just want someone to return punts as opposed to taking the fair catch or running around in circles like an assclown only to get tackled for a loss...WHODEY !!! Quote
TJJackson Posted March 7, 2006 Report Posted March 7, 2006 Yep, we definitely need a punt returner Quote
TJJackson Posted March 7, 2006 Report Posted March 7, 2006 *shrug* mebbe.If he's gone early, as he probably will be, I'd point to Will Blackmon of Boston College as a mid round versatile alternative Quote
Stripes Posted March 7, 2006 Report Posted March 7, 2006 Count me as one that doesn't want to spend any pick before the 5th round on a guy that will be emphasized as a punt returner. Perhaps if our current options were really THAT bad, but I haven't been dissatisfied with Ratiff, honestly. He is careful with the football, and there's nothing like a punt return to make me fearful of fumbles (thanks, Warrick).I also think Tab Perry should get some opportunities as a returner judging by his performance as a kick returner. Granted he may not have the shiftiness necessary. I wouldn't object to taking Hester though, because I expect him to be an effective defender as well. Quote
The_Next_Big_Thing Posted March 8, 2006 Report Posted March 8, 2006 Why not pick Sinorice in round two to be a punt returner/#3 WR?He will probably drop to us in the second based on OTHER wideouts and the fact that he's small. Quote
Stripes Posted March 8, 2006 Report Posted March 8, 2006 Why not pick Sinorice in round two to be a punt returner/#3 WR?He will probably drop to us in the second based on OTHER wideouts and the fact that he's small. It could work. I wouldn't be a fan of picking a receiver on day one, but oh well. Did Sinorice return punts in college? I know Hester did for the Hurricanes, but I suppose Moss might have been in there as well, a la Holmes and Ginn for the Buckeyes. Quote
The_Next_Big_Thing Posted March 8, 2006 Report Posted March 8, 2006 Why not pick Sinorice in round two to be a punt returner/#3 WR?He will probably drop to us in the second based on OTHER wideouts and the fact that he's small. It could work. I wouldn't be a fan of picking a receiver on day one, but oh well. Did Sinorice return punts in college? I know Hester did for the Hurricanes, but I suppose Moss might have been in there as well, a la Holmes and Ginn for the Buckeyes.I don't know if he did or not, but the dude is QUICK and fast. Quote
TJJackson Posted March 8, 2006 Report Posted March 8, 2006 We've already got a couple of short fast WRs in the hook, so no to this one Quote
ArmyBengal Posted March 8, 2006 Report Posted March 8, 2006 Speaking of punt returners, does Brousard return punts ?? Dude is way quick and would fill that role nicely without drafting for that specific need. I think a day one WR would irritate me as well...WHODEY !!! Quote
HairOnFire Posted March 8, 2006 Report Posted March 8, 2006 For whatever it might be worth I just heard Kiper pimp small school CB Daniel Manning as one of the true sleepers in the draft. What caught my attention was his big play capability, having scored 10 TD's in his career, half from the secondary, and half as a punt and kickoff return man. Kiper said he was a raw CB prospect, as is Hester, but claimed Manning has enough upside to potentially develope into a true starter. Quote
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