BengalChamps Posted January 22, 2006 Report Share Posted January 22, 2006 This is my first post! Be gentle.Any coincidence that what may be the 2 best Strong Safeties in the AFC(Polamalu and Lynch) have their teams in the AFC Championship game? That seems to be the difference between a good defense and a championship defense. The Bengals might be playing tomorrow if one of those guys played for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJ29 Posted January 22, 2006 Report Share Posted January 22, 2006 I'd say that it helps to prove the importance of the position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalPappaw Posted January 22, 2006 Report Share Posted January 22, 2006 I not only believe we need a GOOD starting Strong Safety -- I believe we need to add some good depth at the safety position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted January 22, 2006 Report Share Posted January 22, 2006 This is my first post! Be gentle.Welcome! The Bengals might be playing tomorrow if one of those guys played for us. I firmly believe they'd be playing tomorrow if Palmer played for us. I agree though, safety is a big need for this defense. Throw in some defensive lineman that can play marginally well, and we have a good defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Section 310 Posted January 22, 2006 Report Share Posted January 22, 2006 At some point a regular poster is going to bash you for using theterm "Strong" safety; Marvin made a comment before last year'sdraft about needing versatile players like Madieu rather than a one dimensional David Fulcher type safety. Nonetheless you are right. Anyone who has ever watched footballknows that this team needs an enforcer in the middle of the field. Madieu is a nice player, but he is never going to strikefear into the hearts of Heap, Miller or Winslow as they run downthe middle of the field looking back for a pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tasher Posted January 22, 2006 Report Share Posted January 22, 2006 W - E - L - C - O - M - E Let us give you a CHEER!Wooo Hooo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USMC203 Posted January 22, 2006 Report Share Posted January 22, 2006 Welcome, and yes I agree. You are among the elite. I am sure like the rest of us that Coach Marvin will contact you about who to pick in the draft and who to start at game time. But if he don't you will have a good time anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semiotter Posted January 22, 2006 Report Share Posted January 22, 2006 YES maybe Williams from West Vir. he is a CB now but the say he is bis enough to play safety!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schweinhart Posted January 22, 2006 Report Share Posted January 22, 2006 I would say the Bengals would have advanced in the playoffs if they had a free safety. Kevin Kaeshivarn getting beat like a drum over the top deep and in the red zone had more to do with the Bengals loss vs. Pittsburgh than any strong safety factor did. In fact, the strong safety play of Ohalete actually helped stall the Steelers run game and forced Big Ben to beat the Bengals deep, which he did largely because of no pass rush, K2 getting beat, and the play of Tory James at CB.To go 11-6 with the absolute lack of a pass rush that the Bengals showed week in and week out should be testament enough that the play of the two backup safeties this year is not the greatest need for the team to improve nor safeties in general why teams advance in the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengalsLB Posted January 22, 2006 Report Share Posted January 22, 2006 wpersonally i would like a D-Line in the first cause i really like Roman Harper who we could get in the second Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DontPushMe Posted January 22, 2006 Report Share Posted January 22, 2006 Any coincidence that what may be the 2 best Strong Safeties in the AFC(Polamalu and Lynch) have their teams in the AFC Championship game? Yes, it would be a coincidence if that were true, but since its not, its not even worth discussing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted January 22, 2006 Report Share Posted January 22, 2006 Any coincidence that what may be the 2 best Strong Safeties in the AFC(Polamalu and Lynch) have their teams in the AFC Championship game? Yes, it would be a coincidence if that were true, but since its not, its not even worth discussing. Whether or not YOU rank them as the best is not the point. They are both GOOD.Discuss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derekshank Posted January 22, 2006 Report Share Posted January 22, 2006 It is just a coincidence that they both have good SS. Last year a big deal was made about the NFL's 2 best kickers being in the superbowl. Of course having good players at particular positions doesn't hurt... but the fact that this particular position has talented players on both teams is nothing more than coincidence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalChamps Posted January 22, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2006 Polamalu is looking awesome in this game vs. Denver! We have to get someone like him! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LB51 Posted January 22, 2006 Report Share Posted January 22, 2006 Cmom guys, we have Ohalete! Having a starting safety as good as he is should show that safety's aren't crucial. We lost with that stud in the game. And why was he not voted into the Pro Bowl. Absolute travesty! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DontPushMe Posted January 22, 2006 Report Share Posted January 22, 2006 Any coincidence that what may be the 2 best Strong Safeties in the AFC(Polamalu and Lynch) have their teams in the AFC Championship game? Yes, it would be a coincidence if that were true, but since its not, its not even worth discussing. Whether or not YOU rank them as the best is not the point. They are both GOOD.Discuss.You are right, weather or not i rank them as the best is not the point. The point is, john lynch isnt even a SS. Hes a FS.We have Madieu, a great safety. You dont need 2 stars back at that position. Also Ed Reed is the best safety in the AFC, and like someone else said, it is just a coincidence that both teams have good safetys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairOnFire Posted January 24, 2006 Report Share Posted January 24, 2006 If you're looking for coincidences start with the fact that all four of the teams that made the conference championship game are known to blitz like mad. BTW, welcome new guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJJackson Posted January 24, 2006 Report Share Posted January 24, 2006 I am starting warm up to the kid from FSU, Watkins, who just might be available late R2http://www.nflfans.com/x/2006/showplayer.p...y=Pat%20Watkinshttp://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingr...patwatkins.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schweinhart Posted January 24, 2006 Report Share Posted January 24, 2006 I am starting warm up to the kid from FSU, Watkins, who just might be available late R2http://www.nflfans.com/x/2006/showplayer.p...y=Pat%20Watkinshttp://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingr...patwatkins.htmlMe too. He showed up real well in the FSU bowl game. Lots of aggressive play and range in coverage. He's skinny but there's no reason to think he couldn't add at least 20 pounds in a couple years. How that affects his speed would remain to be seen. But as he is right now, he can play. I would suspect he'd definitely be there in the 2nd and maybe even the 3rd. There's other safeties like Daniel Bullocks and Dwayne Slay who stand to get the nod ahead of Watkins IMO. Coupled with the early entries of KO and Bing, that should make Watkins drop some. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalPappaw Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 I also like Watkins from FSU.The following is my list of candiates (in order?) for safety (starters/depth) for the Bengals:- Mike Huff (Texas) and Jimmy Williams (Va Tech) = gone by the time we draft.- Ko Simpson (S. Caro.) = Good athlete, 6 int his freshman year. Plays the ball well and is a good hitter/tackler- Dwayne Slay (Texas Tech) = Big hitter. Caused 8 fumbles this past year. Long arms. Sometimes "hits", instead of "tackling.- Antonio Cromarte (Fla St) = If(When) he recovers from his knee injury, he will be able to play corner or safety. Love to get him in the third round -- but I doubt he lasts that long.- Darnell Bing (USC) = Has his moments -- but I'm not convinced , yet. I need to see more of him.- Pat Watkins (Fla St) = Tall with good range. Good special team player (gunner) Good tackler- Jarvis Herring (Fla) = Big hitter/tackler. Does play the pass reasonably well.- Donte Whitner (OSU) = SS type. Not sure about his pass coverage skills.- Mike Lorello (W. Va.) = Play maker. Seems to lack speed, but still makes plays all over the field." Maybe a 4th rounder- Greg Blue (Ga.)= Big hitter. Seems a step off in coverage and makes too many tackles down the field instead of at the line of scrimmage.- Anthony Smith (Syracuse) = Kiper likes him -- but I'm not convinced.I would like to see us take any two of these. There are several other candidates for Bengals safeties (i.e. play pass and stop the run.), but I haven't had time to watch them on tape, yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schweinhart Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 I hear you Pap.There's a couple other I'll be eyeballing during Senior Bowl week: Jahmile Addae WVA, Marcus Hudson NC State (who's still getting put in at CB), and Daniel Bullocks Nebraska.Bullocks and Hudson were also invited to the combine. Addae shoulda been IMO.Plus there's some decent safeties who got no All-Star game invites and aren't combine bound either like Harrison Smith Cal and Wesley Smith Memphis who should get Pro Day visits and invites for workouts by teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TecmoFever Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 What happens in Bengaldom and on this site, in particular, if no safeties are drafted on the first day? How about if no safeties are drafted during the entire seven rounds like last year? I am in no way dogging last year's great draft, but I couldn't believe that we didn't get a safety. Could it happen again? Does Marvin have kahunas that big? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walshfan Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 Id say they're definately thinking about the saftey position as theyve talked to 3 players that are s/lb tweeners... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJBestInAFC Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 Yeah I think the Bengals should look at Brian Iwuh:http://www.fftoolbox.com/nfl_draft/profile...Prospect_ID=266http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingr.../brianiwuh.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tasher Posted January 26, 2006 Report Share Posted January 26, 2006 ....ESPN Draft Ticker ticking across........"Bengals first day, no safety..."Wha???!!!!????THE SKY IS FALLING THE SKY IS FALLING Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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