walzav29 Posted January 17, 2006 Report Share Posted January 17, 2006 If you go to cnn.si.com they have what they think are the 20 best college guys. There are alot of DE's, but I think only 2 Tackles. Is out slot final? If so where is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tasher Posted January 17, 2006 Report Share Posted January 17, 2006 24th Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJ29 Posted January 17, 2006 Report Share Posted January 17, 2006 Can someone explain the cycling after the first round? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjakq27 Posted January 17, 2006 Report Share Posted January 17, 2006 Can someone explain the cycling after the first round? What do you mean by cycling? Sometimes the order of the next rounds don't match the first because of trades and compensatory picks if that is what you are asking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJ29 Posted January 17, 2006 Report Share Posted January 17, 2006 Can someone explain the cycling after the first round? What do you mean by cycling? Sometimes the order of the next rounds don't match the first because of trades and compensatory picks if that is what you are asking.Something like that. Something was mentioned about the order "cycling". I'm not quite sure. Maybe they were referring to the change in order due to things you were talking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted January 17, 2006 Report Share Posted January 17, 2006 Something like that. Something was mentioned about the order "cycling". I'm not quite sure. Maybe they were referring to the change in order due to things you were talking about. I might be way off here, but it sounds like they were referring to the procedure followed in most fantasy football drafts. The first drafter cycles to last in the 2nd round while the last cycles to first and so on... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Next_Big_Thing Posted January 17, 2006 Report Share Posted January 17, 2006 That's fantasy. We draft 24th in each round unless we trade picks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whur CHad At? Posted January 17, 2006 Report Share Posted January 17, 2006 We go from 26th, to 22nd, then to 24th. Crazy man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalPappaw Posted January 18, 2006 Report Share Posted January 18, 2006 THERE IS "CYCLING" among those tied for the same record!For example there are five teams tied with 4-12 record. In Rd 1 the order (without trades) would be 3.Tenn, 4. NY Jets, 5. Green Bay, 6. Oakland, and then 7. San Sran.In Rd 2. the order (without trades) will be:35. NY Jets, 36. Green Bay, 37. Oakland, 38. San Fran and then 39. TennWhat that means to the us, is that the Bengals will draft 24 then 55th ( because they will move up one position, since they are tied with Tampa Bay who will pick ahead of the Bengals in Round 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJ29 Posted January 18, 2006 Report Share Posted January 18, 2006 THERE IS "CYCLING" among those tied for the same record!For example there are five teams tied with 4-12 record. In Rd 1 the order (without trades) would be 3.Tenn, 4. NY Jets, 5. Green Bay, 6. Oakland, and then 7. San Sran.In Rd 2. the order (without trades) will be:35. NY Jets, 36. Green Bay, 37. Oakland, 38. San Fran and then 39. TennWhat that means to the us, is that the Bengals will draft 24 then 55th ( because they will move up one position, since they are tied with Tampa Bay who will pick ahead of the Bengals in Round 1.Thank you Pappaw, that's what I'm talking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tasher Posted January 18, 2006 Report Share Posted January 18, 2006 I don't think that is accurate, if it is it only applies to teams with the same record AND SOS. (9ers and Oak, see pick 6 and 7 decided by coin flip.)do you have a reference link to draft rules? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJ29 Posted January 18, 2006 Report Share Posted January 18, 2006 I think it's a completely different situation. Once the spots are decided by coin flip, their position cycles in the following rounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalPappaw Posted January 18, 2006 Report Share Posted January 18, 2006 I don't think that is accurate, if it is it only applies to teams with the same record AND SOS. (9ers and Oak, see pick 6 and 7 decided by coin flip.)do you have a reference link to draft rules?No -- just experience of 20+ years of following the draft for the Bengals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schweinhart Posted January 18, 2006 Report Share Posted January 18, 2006 I don't think that is accurate, if it is it only applies to teams with the same record AND SOS. (9ers and Oak, see pick 6 and 7 decided by coin flip.)do you have a reference link to draft rules?No -- just experience of 20+ years of following the draft for the Bengals Hope you lay some insight into picks on us this year like last year, Pap. Let us know what you're seeing on tape, eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted January 18, 2006 Report Share Posted January 18, 2006 http://www.ourlads.com/draftSequence.htmlDraft sequence is based upon team records and strength-of-schedule. In slotting teams with the same record, the team whose opponents had the weakest schedule picks ahead of the team whose opponents had the next weakest schedule and so forth for that group. In the event of ties (teams with the same record and the same strength-of-schedule), the first applicable tiebreaker (head-to-head, divisional record, or conference record) will be employed, with the tiebreak loser getting the higher selection in Round One. If there are no applicable tiebreakers (as would be the case with teams from opposite conferences that did not face each other), ties will be broken by coin toss. The Super Bowl winner and loser will draft thirty-second and thirty-first respectively. Other playoff teams, as they drop out, move to the end of their group regardless of the strength-of-schedule. If teams with the same record drop out in the same playoff week they are positioned at the end of the group and strength-of-schedule will determine their sequence. Teams coming back into their group in different playoff weeks are placed in the group with the team(s) that advanced further being placed behind the team(s) that dropped in earlier. Once the first round sequence has been established, in subsequent rounds teams rotate within their won-loss grouping with the team that picked earliest in the previous round moving to the last position of the group while others move up.Bengals are in the 11-5 "group" with Tampa, NYG, Carolina, Chicago & Pitt. We will pick at 24 in round 1, have the 23rd pick in round 2, then cycle down to the 28th pick in round 3. We will then have the 27th, 26th, 25th, and 24th picks in rounds 4-7. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJ29 Posted January 18, 2006 Report Share Posted January 18, 2006 Thanks Joisey. That's exactly what I was talking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derekshank Posted January 18, 2006 Report Share Posted January 18, 2006 It's hard to not be a buckeye's homer in the draft... but Bengals.com is giving a lot of love to Donte Whitner as a SS available when we pick in the 1st round.3.Donte Whitner, SS, Ohio State, 5-11, 205: A good run player, some think he might be able to play a little corner a la Madieu Williams.A run stopping SS that could play a little corner? This means he is the whole package! ANd he doesn't have the injury issues that Bing has had... (Bng being the player we've all been talking about at safety for the least couple months). I think I'd feel more comfortable with Whitner than Blue... since he is an in the box safety. Just good conversation though at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet23 Posted January 18, 2006 Report Share Posted January 18, 2006 I know that LB is not an immediate need and our greatest need is at SS & DT, but how do you pass up a guy like Bobby Carpenter, if he is still on the board? The guy just makes plays. I guarantee you, New England could find a spot for this guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted January 18, 2006 Report Share Posted January 18, 2006 I know that LB is not an immediate need and our greatest need is at SS & DT, but how do you pass up a guy like Bobby Carpenter, if he is still on the board? The guy just makes plays. I guarantee you, New England could find a spot for this guy. As a pass rushing linebacker, we should already be set with Pollack. Carpenter will likely be a very good player, but his contributions may be limited at his position. I think he'd be a better fit in the 3-4. If he falls to us in the second round, however, I'd love to pick him up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJ29 Posted January 18, 2006 Report Share Posted January 18, 2006 but how do you pass up a guy like Bobby CarpenterLet's take a look at the checklist:Size: CheckStrength: CheckAbility to Take on blocks: CheckBlitzing ability: CheckGood Tackler: CheckStraight line speed: NopeSideline-to-sideline speed: NoAgility: NopeCarpenter is not what Lewis is looking for. Big and strong: yes. A great football player: yes. Will he be a GREAT addition for another team? yes. But he is just not what the Bengals are looking for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalPappaw Posted January 19, 2006 Report Share Posted January 19, 2006 I don't think that is accurate, if it is it only applies to teams with the same record AND SOS. (9ers and Oak, see pick 6 and 7 decided by coin flip.)do you have a reference link to draft rules?No -- just experience of 20+ years of following the draft for the Bengals Hope you lay some insight into picks on us this year like last year, Pap. Let us know what you're seeing on tape, eh? I'll do my best -- based on my review of the games so far there are some interesting possiblities at Safety this year. As we get closer to the draft -- I get more involved in the discussions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJ29 Posted January 19, 2006 Report Share Posted January 19, 2006 I don't think that is accurate, if it is it only applies to teams with the same record AND SOS. (9ers and Oak, see pick 6 and 7 decided by coin flip.)do you have a reference link to draft rules?No -- just experience of 20+ years of following the draft for the Bengals Hope you lay some insight into picks on us this year like last year, Pap. Let us know what you're seeing on tape, eh? I'll do my best -- based on my review of the games so far there are some interesting possiblities at Safety this year. As we get closer to the draft -- I get more involved in the discussions. I'm giddy with anticipation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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