If you already hated Boomer, here`s another reason

[bengalboomer7]

I assume Boomer loves Marvin, because he's been singing his praises for the past 3 years! Where have you been? Have you not listened to any of that? You'd rather just take this one criticism and make it a blanket generalization of Boomer's thoughts about Marvin Lewis? Come on now.

And no...Marvin shouldn't be talking about other players in the media like that. How would a parent feel if someone else went out in public and started criticizing their kids. Whether or not the criticism is true, it's not something that should be done. Let me go on the news and call my neighbors' children cry babies and see how they react. I'm sure they'd respond by saying, "He had every right to talk badly about my children in public! I have no ill-feelings whatsoever!"

And all Marvin did was point out what a cry baby that Roethlisberger is.

I guess it`s ok for Marvin to aknowledge the obvious and get bashed.

But when Boomer aknowledges the obvious, he deserves a free pass

andc can bash Marvin for doing it ?!

It's Boomer's JOB to give his opinion! That's what he's paid to do! I doubt he'd keep his job very long if he went on shows and said, "I don't feel it's right to offer up any criticism of players or coaches". It's not Marvin's job to worry about players on other teams. Just like it's not the job of an adult to become a parent to other people's children. If he wants to go into the locker room and tell his players Ben is a crybaby, then whatever. Being a coach myself, it's not something I'd ever do, but to each his own. I even agree with Marvin....Ben WAS whining. To say it in the media, though, is crossing a line.

I usually enjoy your posts, but you seem to have abandoned all sense of logic in this thread due to those orange-colored glasses that are apparently preventing you from seeing the obvious.

Just beat me to it, SKy. It's the mans; job to report on this stuff.

It's funny how most people will praise a guy for saying good things about the Bengals, then we'll chastize the same guy when he says something wrong.

That doesn't include Peter King, though. It's a whole new level when you do that in the SAME article.

[oldschooler]

Ill let you get back to playing with your Chad dolls now schooler...

Great comeback. Glad to see you resort to that when you

don`t have a good comeback that actually backs up

the BS you were spouting before.

And I`ll go back to playing with my Chad dolls,

while you continue to gulp down that Hater-ade...

[jamesbrooks21]

I don't have a problem with what Marvin said. Rothlisberger basically said Odell was dirty. I am surprised nobody said anything about it before Marvin did. Ask Rothlisberger the same question about if it is dirty to go low on a QB. Do you think you will get the same answer now that his teammate did that s**t? Hell no. I like Boomer but he can suck a dick on this one.

[Whodey420]

Marvin can do no wrong with some of these people....The guy is human he's not perfect....

Boomer was dead on in what he said.....Marvin just lost his pro bowl QB and got his ass

handed to him in HIS OWN HOUSE and all he can find to bitch about is the other teams

QB?.....gimme a phucking break....for someone who is supposedly such a defensive

guru he sure has one of THE SORRIEST DEFENSES in the league!!!....He better start worrying

about his own players and not some clown on someone else's team....He hasnt done jack $hit

to shore up the DT position on this team since he's been here....Sign and overpay a 2nd or 3rd

tier free agent in John Thornton.....Draft a bum in the 4th round (Mathias Askew) Sign another

2nd or 3rd tier free agent in Brian Robinson.....We get run all over 75-80 % of the time and if

you wanna succeed in the playoffs you HAVE to be able to do 2 things.....run the ball and stop

the run.....we abandoned the run in the 2nd half and though we didnt give up a ton of rushing

yards....we sure as hell couldnt stop the RB's when we needed too....It gets tiring to hear "Well

look what Marvin has done!!!....he's turned around this franchise and got us to the playoffs"....

yeah well thats his phucking job....remember "DO YOUR JOB".....it's not like the guy cured

Cancer.....Marvin's a good coach and all....but until we get that defense fixed were not gonna

do squat in the playoffs....Im sure Boomer has more contacts within the Bengals organization

than any poster on this board......just because the guy reports what people in the organization

told him and more than likely saw first hand and it doesnt reflect the team in a good light doesnt

mean its not true and the guy shouldnt be called an asshat for reporting it....that's his job....

remember?....DO YOUR JOB!.....Boomer has done a helluva lot more for the people and city

of Cincinnati than some "asshat" bitching on the internet.

[oldschooler]

I assume Boomer loves Marvin, because he's been singing his praises for the past 3 years! Where have you been? Have you not listened to any of that? You'd rather just take this one criticism and make it a blanket generalization of Boomer's thoughts about Marvin Lewis? Come on now.

And no...Marvin shouldn't be talking about other players in the media like that. How would a parent feel if someone else went out in public and started criticizing their kids. Whether or not the criticism is true, it's not something that should be done. Let me go on the news and call my neighbors' children cry babies and see how they react. I'm sure they'd respond by saying, "He had every right to talk badly about my children in public! I have no ill-feelings whatsoever!"

And all Marvin did was point out what a cry baby that Roethlisberger is.

I guess it`s ok for Marvin to aknowledge the obvious and get bashed.

But when Boomer aknowledges the obvious, he deserves a free pass

andc can bash Marvin for doing it ?!

It's Boomer's JOB to give his opinion! That's what he's paid to do! I doubt he'd keep his job very long if he went on shows and said, "I don't feel it's right to offer up any criticism of players or coaches". It's not Marvin's job to worry about players on other teams. Just like it's not the job of an adult to become a parent to other people's children. If he wants to go into the locker room and tell his players Ben is a crybaby, then whatever. Being a coach myself, it's not something I'd ever do, but to each his own. I even agree with Marvin....Ben WAS whining. To say it in the media, though, is crossing a line.

I usually enjoy your posts, but you seem to have abandoned all sense of logic in this thread due to those orange-colored glasses that are apparently preventing you from seeing the obvious.

But that`s my OPINION.

And it is is full of as much logic as

Boomer`s OPINION was.

Ah, so you've actually TALKED to players who were in the locker room? My apologies...I wasn't aware.

Do I have to talk to anyone to form an opinion ?

Did Boomer quote any player he talked too before

he formed his opinion ?

Or did he just basically quote what PFT.com said ?

And I wouldn`t be even half as upset by Boomer`s

OPINION if he stated it on a Cincinnati radio station.

But he went to a PISSBURGH Radio station and said

all of this BS !

Geez. Sorry that it pisses me off that a fomer Bengal

went into a heated rival`s terriotry, that we just lost our first

Playoff game in 15 years to, and bashed my beloved Bengals.

I guess it`s OK for him to bash my team, my coach and one of

my favorite players to the Steelers media and Steelers fans. But

I`m not allowed to bash him for doing it, without being told that

I`ve "abandoned all logic" ?

[skyline]

I assume Boomer loves Marvin, because he's been singing his praises for the past 3 years! Where have you been? Have you not listened to any of that? You'd rather just take this one criticism and make it a blanket generalization of Boomer's thoughts about Marvin Lewis? Come on now.

And no...Marvin shouldn't be talking about other players in the media like that. How would a parent feel if someone else went out in public and started criticizing their kids. Whether or not the criticism is true, it's not something that should be done. Let me go on the news and call my neighbors' children cry babies and see how they react. I'm sure they'd respond by saying, "He had every right to talk badly about my children in public! I have no ill-feelings whatsoever!"

And all Marvin did was point out what a cry baby that Roethlisberger is.

I guess it`s ok for Marvin to aknowledge the obvious and get bashed.

But when Boomer aknowledges the obvious, he deserves a free pass

andc can bash Marvin for doing it ?!

It's Boomer's JOB to give his opinion! That's what he's paid to do! I doubt he'd keep his job very long if he went on shows and said, "I don't feel it's right to offer up any criticism of players or coaches". It's not Marvin's job to worry about players on other teams. Just like it's not the job of an adult to become a parent to other people's children. If he wants to go into the locker room and tell his players Ben is a crybaby, then whatever. Being a coach myself, it's not something I'd ever do, but to each his own. I even agree with Marvin....Ben WAS whining. To say it in the media, though, is crossing a line.

I usually enjoy your posts, but you seem to have abandoned all sense of logic in this thread due to those orange-colored glasses that are apparently preventing you from seeing the obvious.

But that`s my OPINION.

And it is is full of as much logic as

Boomer`s OPINION was.

Ah, so you've actually TALKED to players who were in the locker room? My apologies...I wasn't aware.

Do I have to talk to anyone to form an opinion ?

Did Boomer quote any player he talked too before

he formed his opinion ?

Or did he just basically quote what PFT.com said ?

And I wouldn`t be even half as upset by Boomer`s

OPINION if he stated it on a Cincinnati radio station.

But he went to a PISSBURGH Radio station and said

all of this BS !

Geez. Sorry that it pisses me off that a fomer Bengal

went into a heated rival`s terriotry, that we just lost our first

Playoff game in 15 years to, and bashed my beloved Bengals.

I guess it`s OK for him to bash my team, my coach and one of

my favorite players to the Steelers media and Steelers fans. But

I`m not allowed to bash him for doing it, without being told that

I`ve "abandoned all logic" ?

Calling his sources out would get some players into a lot of trouble. Now THAT would be something to be upset about. To say "TJ told me that this happened" would be crossing a line. I'd be upset with Boomer for that.

As for going into Pittsburgh...again, it's his job. Should he have said, "Nope, sorry...no interviews for YOU. I hate Pittsburgh!"? He's supposed to be as objective as he can. Turning down interviews in rival cities would be extremely childish.

[walshfan]

What you fail to realize ( for reasons unknown to me ) is the Bengals are and will allways be Boomer's team as well as any fan's.. He played most of his career here..raised his family here.. took them to the super bowl...

He's also a National figure now.. He has to be objective and I think he is..

You seem to think that everything is ok here and nothing the "stars" of this team do is considered inappropriate or wrong..

Your entitled to your opinion.. I dont agreee with it but so what....

We all want to see this team succeed.. Hopefully it will without all the drama next year...

[Whodey420]

There's a difference between "Bashing" and "Stating Facts"........who cares where he

was sitting when he made the comments???

[oldschooler]

Marvin can do no wrong with some of these people....The guy is human he's not perfect....

Boomer was dead on in what he said.....Marvin just lost his pro bowl QB and got his ass

handed to him in HIS OWN HOUSE and all he can find to bitch about is the other teams

QB?.....gimme a phucking break....for someone who is supposedly such a defensive

guru he sure has one of THE SORRIEST DEFENSES in the league!!!....He better start worrying

about his own players and not some clown on someone else's team....He hasnt done jack $hit

to shore up the DT position on this team since he's been here....Sign and overpay a 2nd or 3rd

tier free agent in John Thornton.....Draft a bum in the 4th round (Mathias Askew) Sign another

2nd or 3rd tier free agent in Brian Robinson.....We get run all over 75-80 % of the time and if

you wanna succeed in the playoffs you HAVE to be able to do 2 things.....run the ball and stop

the run.....we abandoned the run in the 2nd half and though we didnt give up a ton of rushing

yards....we sure as hell couldnt stop the RB's when we needed too....It gets tiring to hear "Well

look what Marvin has done!!!....he's turned around this franchise and got us to the playoffs"....

yeah well thats his phucking job....remember "DO YOUR JOB".....it's not like the guy cured

Cancer.....Marvin's a good coach and all....but until we get that defense fixed were not gonna

do squat in the playoffs....Im sure Boomer has more contacts within the Bengals organization

than any poster on this board......just because the guy reports what people in the organization

told him and more than likely saw first hand and it doesnt reflect the team in a good light doesnt

mean its not true and the guy shouldnt be called an asshat for reporting it....that's his job....

remember?....DO YOUR JOB!.....Boomer has done a helluva lot more for the people and city

of Cincinnati than some "asshat" bitching on the internet.

What a horrofying attempt at a 4th post.

Is that just one big sentence or what ?

And Marvin has done more for this city and team than Boomer has ever done.

Boomer helped lead the Strike in 1982. Was that for the City or the Bengals ?

When the Bengals hit the skids...where was Boomer ?

And I`m sure that Marvin gutting the entire Defense and only having

2 starters and 3 players TOTAL left from the 2002 Defense, has nothing to

do with the Defensive struggles ? How about working with his 2nd

D coach in past 3 year ...that couldn`t have an affect could it ?

Your post looked more like an "asshat bitching on the inter-net"

more than any post in this thread.

Congratulations ! You win the Prize !

[BengalsOwn]

We dont know Boomer's sources but it could be any Bengal..All he has to do is pick up the phone and call one of them.. he called Palmer in the lockerrrom right after the injury..

Chad's theatrics are immature....If the lockerroom incident occured then he is an unprofessional knuclehead who's ego is getting the best of him anymore....grow up for damn sakes.

Hell, he also talked to Carson while he was laying on the operating table.

[oldschooler]

Calling his sources out would get some players into a lot of trouble. Now THAT would be something to be upset about. To say "TJ told me that this happened" would be crossing a line. I'd be upset with Boomer for that.

As for going into Pittsburgh...again, it's his job. Should he have said, "Nope, sorry...no interviews for YOU. I hate Pittsburgh!"? He's supposed to be as objective as he can. Turning down interviews in rival cities would be extremely childish.

I don`t care what his "reasons" for doing it were.

I`m a Bengals fan...I have bled Black and Orange for

over 30 years ! I`ve never abandonded this team !

The fact that he did it...and said what he said, to the people

he said it to, is what I have a problem with.

I think he plays to his crowd. He says what he thinks they want to hear. (most

of the time)

I don`t think he would have been so harsh on CJ or Marvin had been on a Cincy station.

And it wouldn`t have sounded like the "Bungles" are on their way back.

That doesn`t make me wrong. That`s my OPINION.

We dont know Boomer's sources but it could be any Bengal..All he has to do is pick up the phone and call one of them.. he called Palmer in the lockerrrom right after the injury..

Chad's theatrics are immature....If the lockerroom incident occured then he is an unprofessional knuclehead who's ego is getting the best of him anymore....grow up for damn sakes.

Hell, he also talked to Carson while he was laying on the operating table.

Maybe Carson was his "source" ?

[skyline]

Calling his sources out would get some players into a lot of trouble. Now THAT would be something to be upset about. To say "TJ told me that this happened" would be crossing a line. I'd be upset with Boomer for that.

As for going into Pittsburgh...again, it's his job. Should he have said, "Nope, sorry...no interviews for YOU. I hate Pittsburgh!"? He's supposed to be as objective as he can. Turning down interviews in rival cities would be extremely childish.

I don`t care what his "reasons" for doing it were.

I`m a Bengals fan...I have bled Black and Orange for

over 30 years ! I`ve never abandonded this team !

The fact that he did it...and said what he said, to the people

he said it to, is what I have a problem with.

I think he plays to his crowd. He says what he thinks they want to hear. (most

of the time)

I don`t think he would have been so harsh on CJ or Marvin had been on a Cincy station.

And it wouldn`t have sounded like the "Bungles" are on their way back.

That doesn`t make me wrong. That`s my OPINION.

It sounds to me as if you consider any sort of criticism an abandonment. If that's the case, then yes...you ARE wrong. Your idea of abandonment is greatly flawed. Believe it or not, loyalty and criticism really can exist simultaneously.

[Whodey420]

Now you're gonna bitch about grammar and sentence structure......whine, whine,

whine.....Who gives a $hit about the number of posts I have....Some people work

and have a life.....I dont have the time to spend my life on Bengal message boards...

I dont wake up at 6 a.m. every morning and copy and paste Bengal related stories

on Bengal message boards....I usually post over at Go's message board but since its

been acting up lately I had to break down and register here....Boomer has always

supported the Bengals and the city of Cincinnati.....not his fault that Mike Brown was too

cheap and too stupid to make him a fair offer so he left to play for another team....

guy's got to make a living dont he?.....as far as bitching on the internet.....Im not the one

that started the topic.......Im not the one with 600 + posts on here not to mention probably

another 5000-10000 posts over at Go's.....bitch, bitch, bitch.......dude go outside every now

and then....get a job or a hobby or something...

[oldschooler]

Calling his sources out would get some players into a lot of trouble. Now THAT would be something to be upset about. To say "TJ told me that this happened" would be crossing a line. I'd be upset with Boomer for that.

As for going into Pittsburgh...again, it's his job. Should he have said, "Nope, sorry...no interviews for YOU. I hate Pittsburgh!"? He's supposed to be as objective as he can. Turning down interviews in rival cities would be extremely childish.

I don`t care what his "reasons" for doing it were.

I`m a Bengals fan...I have bled Black and Orange for

over 30 years ! I`ve never abandonded this team !

The fact that he did it...and said what he said, to the people

he said it to, is what I have a problem with.

I think he plays to his crowd. He says what he thinks they want to hear. (most

of the time)

I don`t think he would have been so harsh on CJ or Marvin had been on a Cincy station.

And it wouldn`t have sounded like the "Bungles" are on their way back.

That doesn`t make me wrong. That`s my OPINION.

It sounds to me as if you consider any sort of criticism an abandonment. If that's the case, then yes...you ARE wrong. Your idea of abandonment is greatly flawed. Believe it or not, loyalty and criticism really can exist simultaneously.

That`s not the case at all.

Just stating my OPINION.

I guess I need a microphone and a hefty

pay-check for it to matter to some people though.

To me the Bengals are like my family.

And Bengals fans are part of that family.

And I would have a problem with anyone

going to someone I hate and bashing my family.

It`s like it`s OK for you to bash a family member.

But you sure as hell don`t want to hear anyone bashing

your family member...ecspecially to people you hate.

That`s where I`m coming from. It`s really that simple.

Now you're gonna bitch about grammar and sentence structure......whine, whine,

whine.....Who gives a $hit about the number of posts I have....Some people work

and have a life.....I dont have the time to spend my life on Bengal message boards...

I dont wake up at 6 a.m. every morning and copy and paste Bengal related stories

on Bengal message boards....I usually post over at Go's message board but since its

been acting up lately I had to break down and register here....Boomer has always

supported the Bengals and the city of Cincinnati.....not his fault that Mike Brown was too

cheap and too stupid to make him a fair offer so he left to play for another team....

guy's got to make a living dont he?.....as far as bitching on the internet.....Im not the one

that started the topic.......Im not the one with 600 + posts on here not to mention probably

another 5000-10000 posts over at Go's.....bitch, bitch, bitch.......dude go outside every now

and then....get a job or a hobby or something...

First off. You called me an "ass-hat bitching on the inter-net"

in your first post to this thread. I just pointed out to you

that your post was hard to read with the way it was typed.

And also that it was you that appeared to be the "ass-hat that

is bitching on the inter-net" in this thread more than anyone.

Secondly I have a job. I`m making money RIGHT NOW.

And I have hobbies. But none of that is really any of your

concern now is it ?

And I`m "bitching" no less about Boomer bashing the Bengals

on a Bengals message board than you are "bitching" about me

being on a Bengals message board while you are on a Bengals

message board.

Hypocrite.

[walshfan]

Schooler...

The Bengals are not your family... they dont even know you exist..get it? You passion for the team clouds your reasoning ...Be objective to the good and Bad....

this team made progress but there are allot of issues also.

defense. Carson's health...Chad's immature attitude.. Henry's impropriaties...defense..defense..

did I mention defense?

Your posts are well received here.. I for one like the articles you post and most of your opinions are thoughtful and articulate..

Just be openminded about the bad sometimes...

As for knocking a guys private life I dont think thats called for by any poster... that stuff should cease....

[Whodey420]

Too funny.....it's all good.....I like to play Devil's Advocate sometimes and just

take the other side of someone's opinion....and no you having a job and hobbies

isnt my concern....unless you're sitting at home collecting my tax dollars for no

reason....bottom line is were all Bengal fans....we can agree to disagree on some

things and so on and so forth....As far as Marvin doing more for the Bengals and

the City of Cincinnati though I'm not so sure.....Boomer has done quite a bit of

charity work in Cincinnati as well and has been doing it longer than Marvin....

not to mention Boomer was an integral part in leading us to a superbowl....

Im sure thats part of Marvin's goal as well but he has yet to achieve that....

and until he steps in on the defensive side of the ball and does something

damnit we wont

[oldschooler]

Schooler...

The Bengals are not your family... they dont even know you exist..get it? You passion for the team clouds your reasoning ...Be objective to the good and Bad....

this team made progress but there are allot of issues also.

defense. Carson's health...Chad's immature attitude.. Henry's impropriaties...defense..defense..

did I mention defense?

Your posts are well received here.. I for one like the articles you post and most of your opinions are thoughtful and articulate..

Just be openminded about the bad sometimes...

As for knocking a guys private life I dont think thats called for by any poster... that stuff should cease....

Walsh...I was using an "analogy".

I was "comparing" how I feel about the Bengals

and how I feel about people bashing a "family member".

I also compared other Bengals fans to "family members"

saying that it is easier to handle hearing a family member

bash someone in your family than it is for someone you

hate to do it.

I know this team has alot to work on.

And I accept that. Even a Super Bowl team

has a "weak link" or two. I know the Bengals

are closer to being Super Bowl contenders

than they are farther away from it.

I have heard people bash the Bengals for years.

I just try to look at things as optimistic as possible.

I guess it`s best for people to know what angle

I`m coming from.

It just pissed me off that Boomer went to the Steelers

and bashed my team. I guess I`m in the minority.

But that`s OK. It`s only my opinion.

[walshfan]

Schooler...

The Bengals are not your family... they dont even know you exist..get it? You passion for the team clouds your reasoning ...Be objective to the good and Bad....

this team made progress but there are allot of issues also.

defense. Carson's health...Chad's immature attitude.. Henry's impropriaties...defense..defense..

did I mention defense?

Your posts are well received here.. I for one like the articles you post and most of your opinions are thoughtful and articulate..

Just be openminded about the bad sometimes...

As for knocking a guys private life I dont think thats called for by any poster... that stuff should cease....

Walsh...I was using an "analogy".

I was "comparing" how I feel about the Bengals

and how I feel about people bashing a "family member".

I also compared other Bengals fans to "family members"

saying that it is easier to handle hearing a family member

bash someone in your family than it is for someone you

hate to do it.

I know this team has alot to work on.

And I accept that. Even a Super Bowl team

has a "weak link" or two. I know the Bengals

are closer to being Super Bowl contenders

than they are farther away from it.

I have heard people bash the Bengals for years.

I just try to look at things as optimistic as possible.

I guess it`s best for people to know what angle

I`m coming from.

It just pissed me off that Boomer went to the Steelers

and bashed my team. I guess I`m in the minority.

But that`s OK. It`s only my opinion.

Point taken... I like your enthusiasm for the most part....

Damn are we bonding now?? hell no that cant be!

[oldschooler]

Too funny.....it's all good.....I like to play Devil's Advocate sometimes and just

take the other side of someone's opinion....and no you having a job and hobbies

isnt my concern....unless you're sitting at home collecting my tax dollars for no

reason....bottom line is were all Bengal fans....we can agree to disagree on some

things and so on and so forth....As far as Marvin doing more for the Bengals and

the City of Cincinnati though I'm not so sure.....Boomer has done quite a bit of

charity work in Cincinnati as well and has been doing it longer than Marvin....

not to mention Boomer was an integral part in leading us to a superbowl....

Im sure thats part of Marvin's goal as well but he has yet to achieve that....

and until he steps in on the defensive side of the ball and does something

damnit we wont

It`s cool 420.

I like to get as many "420`s" in as muchas possible myself.

I don`t hold grudges. I know everyone is entitled to their

opinion. I was just venting on Boomer. He used to be

one of my favorite Bengals. Now I don`t care to much for him.

And it started way before today.

My loyalties lie with the Bengals. Players come and go.

But the Stripes are forever !

Schooler...

The Bengals are not your family... they dont even know you exist..get it? You passion for the team clouds your reasoning ...Be objective to the good and Bad....

this team made progress but there are allot of issues also.

defense. Carson's health...Chad's immature attitude.. Henry's impropriaties...defense..defense..

did I mention defense?

Your posts are well received here.. I for one like the articles you post and most of your opinions are thoughtful and articulate..

Just be openminded about the bad sometimes...

As for knocking a guys private life I dont think thats called for by any poster... that stuff should cease....

Walsh...I was using an "analogy".

I was "comparing" how I feel about the Bengals

and how I feel about people bashing a "family member".

I also compared other Bengals fans to "family members"

saying that it is easier to handle hearing a family member

bash someone in your family than it is for someone you

hate to do it.

I know this team has alot to work on.

And I accept that. Even a Super Bowl team

has a "weak link" or two. I know the Bengals

are closer to being Super Bowl contenders

than they are farther away from it.

I have heard people bash the Bengals for years.

I just try to look at things as optimistic as possible.

I guess it`s best for people to know what angle

I`m coming from.

It just pissed me off that Boomer went to the Steelers

and bashed my team. I guess I`m in the minority.

But that`s OK. It`s only my opinion.

Point taken... I like your enthusiasm for the most part....

Damn are we bonding now?? hell no that cant be!

[HairOnFire]

Random thoughts...

I'm no fan of Boomer, but I think too many of us want to kill the messenger due to our anger over the message. Boomer is commenting on an incident that many of us feel was plausible and I doubt he'd do it without calling upon his own local sources, of which he has many.

What angers us most isn't the idea that an ex-Bengal player would break ranks. It's the idea that one of the Bengals best current players might be emotionally melting down at halftime in a game they were winning. And yeah, that is an example of Lewis losing control of a major weapon on his team. The question that needs to be asked is how accurate the rumor is, what Lewis's options were at the time, which party is truly to blame, and what needs to be done now.

Marvin isn't perfect. His criticism of Ben was poorly worded and probably shouldn't have been attempted under any circumstances. That said, lets not lose sight of what his remarks were intended to do. They weren't offered out of thin air in an ongoing campaign to belittle Biggest Ben, a player he doesn't even mention by name. Instead, they were a bitter and mocking response to the charge that Kimo deliberately injured Palmer. Lewis is dismissing that huge and immediate concern by mocking the immaturity shown previously by Ben.

Last, I mentioned this in the rumor thread, but I feel it's a potentially huge mistake for the Bengals to continue ignoring the rumor. This thing isn't going away for plenty of reasons, not the least being the magnitude of the game that was eventually lost. While I understand the desire to handle this matter behind closed doors, and the need for sensitive handling of Chad Johnson, the lack of an official response dictates that the unofficial version goes relatively unchallenged.

[HoosierCat]

Random thoughts...

I'm no fan of Boomer, but I think too many of us want to kill the messenger due to our anger over the message. Boomer is commenting on an incident that many of us feel was plausible and I doubt he'd do it without calling upon his own local sources, of which he has many.

What angers us most isn't the idea that an ex-Bengal player would break ranks. It's the idea that one of the Bengals best current players might be emotionally melting down at halftime in a game they were winning. And yeah, that is an example of Lewis losing control of a major weapon on his team. The question that needs to be asked is how accurate the rumor is, what Lewis's options were at the time, which party is truly to blame, and what needs to be done now.

Marvin isn't perfect. His criticism of Ben was poorly worded and probably shouldn't have been attempted under any circumstances. That said, lets not lose sight of what his remarks were intended to do. They weren't offered out of thin air in an ongoing campaign to belittle Biggest Ben, a player he doesn't even mention by name. Instead, they were a bitter and mocking response to the charge that Kimo deliberately injured Palmer. Lewis is dismissing that huge and immediate concern by mocking the immaturity shown previously by Ben.

Last, I mentioned this in the rumor thread, but I feel it's a potentially huge mistake for the Bengals to continue ignoring the rumor. This thing isn't going away for plenty of reasons, not the least being the magnitude of the game that was eventually lost. While I understand the desire to handle this matter behind closed doors, and the need for sensitive handling of Chad Johnson, the lack of an official response dictates that the unofficial version goes relatively unchallenged.

Good points all. I agree completely.

[ShulaSteakhouse]

Yeah I am onboard with what Hair man said above also, well put.

Aside from my previous sarcastic, all caps post, I actually appreciate what Boomer said, I think it needed to be said, because the local media here are too soft spined to even so much as question anything Marvin says or does, or Chad...that has rubbed off on the fans apparently as well.

I love Marvin, I love Chad, I love the Bengals - but I have no problem calling a spade a spade when I see it - and respect those who do as well, much more so than those who never question anything or can't form their own individual opinion on something objectively.

There's no agenda here - just reacting to what I see and hear, and a fan's desire to see this team win a championship and not settle for the same old mediocrity out of some sort of inferiority complex as Marvin put it.

This is a forum for God's sakes - if everyone just posted how great Marvin was and how everything was going to be just dandy and great and there are never any issues or problems or concerns - then this place would be boring as hell and about 3-5 posters would just be left jerking each other off all day...no one wants that...trust me.

[richmond_mat]

Yeah it is Boomer`s job to give his opinon.

But I have a serious problem with him going

on a Pittsburgh radio station and bashing

Marvin Lewis and Chad Johnson 3 days after

the Bengals lost to the Steelers.

He made it sound like Marvin has "lost control"

of his team. That the "Bengals are in disarray" now.

"Chad Johnson is "unproffesional" and blah blah blah.

NEWS FLASH

CHAD IS UNPROESSIONAL!

He pouts, taunts and basically cannot control his emotions. The list was unprofessional. The pepto incident was unprofessional. Crying about not getting the ball is unprofessional. His stupid celebrations are unprofessional......Chad would be much better off IF HE WOULD FOCUS ON THE GAME PREP AND NOT ON HIS CELEBRATIONS.

Chad has a lot of talent, but his baggage is beginning to outweigh it. In fact, I'm beginning to lump him with Dillon. I say trade him while the trading is good. If anyone offers two firsts and second for him I'd trade him. I'd even take less.

IMHO he is easily replaced by a new coordinator and a really good TE.

Back on topic: Boomer s just paying his mortgage being a talking head. You have to admit, there isn't much positive that can be said about Sunday's game from the Bengal perspective.

[oldschooler]

This is a forum for God's sakes - if everyone just posted how great Marvin was and how everything was going to be just dandy and great and there are never any issues or problems or concerns - then this place would be boring as hell and about 3-5 posters would just be left jerking each other off all day...no one wants that...trust me.

Well if you re-read through this thread (assuming you read it anyway)

You would see that you`re in the majority and I`m in the minority.

So I guess it`s just the opposite of what you`re saying...

You bunch of circle jerkers...

Anyway..again I don`t have a problem with what Boomer said

as much as WHO he said it to...

[Jet23]

This is a forum for God's sakes - if everyone just posted how great Marvin was and how everything was going to be just dandy and great and there are never any issues or problems or concerns - then this place would be boring as hell and about 3-5 posters would just be left jerking each other off all day...no one wants that...trust me.

Well if you re-read through this thread (assuming you read it anyway)

You would see that you`re in the majority and I`m in the minority.

So I guess it`s just the opposite of what you`re saying...

You bunch of circle jerkers...

Anyway..again I don`t have a problem with what Boomer said

as much as WHO he said it to...

Actually, they just played a little bit of it on WLW. It does appear that he was placating to the Pittsburgh radio guys way too much, especially with the comment of wanting 100 Hines Wards. One thing I have gained through this mess is my new found contempt for Hines Ward and Little Ben.

It's fun to hate something.

I use to hate Kentucky basketball, but I like Tubby, so I don't hate KY basketball anymore.

I use to hate Notre Dame football, but I like Charlie Weiss, so I don't hate them anymore either.

I can now focus all of my hatred on all things Pittsburgh!

GO COLTS!