jjakq27 Posted January 3, 2006 Report Posted January 3, 2006 From AP Sources: PITTSBURGH, PA-Low level rumors regarding the future of Steelers head coach Bill Cowher continue to resurface a day after the league completed week 17. While the team clinched the final wild card birth in the AFC, team officials were trying to downplay reports of Cowher's possible exit from his native Pittsburgh.With the expected resignation of Dick Vermeil after the Chiefs final game on Sunday, Cowher's name has surfaced as a possible candidate to replace him. He has a history with Kansas City, as he was the Chiefs defensive coordinator for Marty Schottenheimer before taking the Pittsburgh job after the 1991 season. Embattled Jets coach Herman Edwards is also an early candidate for the vacancy should he be released by the Jets.Insiders say that team officials and some coaches have grown weary of Cowher's style and personality. While he is one of the most successful coaches over the last decade and a half, the Steelers have only been to one Super Bowl since Cowher took the reigns from Chuck Noll in 1992.Cowher has privately told them that at times he feels burdened by the pressure of coaching his hometown team. His failure to win the Super Bowl and cement his legend has eluded him as well. These sources also say that some team officials are still bitter over the loss to the New England Patriots last season when the Steelers had homefield advantage after a 15-1 record. His reluctance to deviate from the power running game has left some insiders frustrated with the direction of the team. While QB Ben Roethlisberger and RB Willie Parker are newcomers to the team, and have been key performers this season, many are concerned with the overall age of the team and the eventual retirement of star running back Jerome Bettis.When asked for a comment on Monday, Cowher stated that he was preparing to play the Cincinnati Bengals and that was all he would say about the rumors. The Steelers are 2.5 point favorites in their wild card playoff game against the Bengals on Sunday. Based on previous coaching changes, some form of draft pick compensation will likely be required if Kansas City is able to lure Cowher from Pittsburgh. A similar scenario occurred when the Tampa Bay Buccaneers were able to pry John Gruden from the Oakland Raiders in 2003 following Super Bowl XXXVII. Quote
turningpoint Posted January 3, 2006 Report Posted January 3, 2006 you have got to be kidding me, the man has his team in the playoffs.. lmao. Quote
Kazkal Posted January 3, 2006 Report Posted January 3, 2006 1 SUPERBOWL in 13years is 1 more superbowl then most teams Quote
membengal Posted January 3, 2006 Report Posted January 3, 2006 jjak, I have searched the web looking for this story, and have had no luck.Link? Quote
jjakq27 Posted January 3, 2006 Author Report Posted January 3, 2006 jjak, I have searched the web looking for this story, and have had no luck.Link? I have searched as well and have not been able to find it. I got it via email from a friend that lives in Kansas near KC. Quote
The_Next_Big_Thing Posted January 3, 2006 Report Posted January 3, 2006 Allow me to add some info here in bold for you to better understand this article. From AP Sources: PITTSBURGH, PA-Low level rumors <-a bunch of grumbling fans said regarding the future of Steelers head coach Bill Cowher continue to resurface a day after the league completed week 17. While the team clinched the final wild card birth in the AFC, team officials were trying to downplay reports of Cowher's possible exit from his native Pittsburgh.With the expected resignation of Dick Vermeil after the Chiefs final game on Sunday, Cowher's name has surfaced as a possible candidate to replace him. He has a history with Kansas City, as he was the Chiefs defensive coordinator for Marty Schottenheimer before taking the Pittsburgh job after the 1991 season. Embattled Jets coach Herman Edwards is also an early candidate for the vacancy should he be released by the Jets.Insiders say that team officials and some coaches have grown weary of Cowher's style and personality. While he is one of the most successful coaches over the last decade and a half, the Steelers have only been to one Super Bowl since Cowher took the reigns from Chuck Noll in 1992.Cowher has privately told them that at times he feels burdened by the pressure of coaching his hometown team. His failure to win the Super Bowl and cement his legend has eluded him as well. These sources also say that some team officials are still bitter over the loss to the New England Patriots last season when the Steelers had homefield advantage after a 15-1 record. His reluctance to deviate from the power running game has left some insiders frustrated with the direction of the team. While QB Ben Roethlisberger and RB Willie Parker are newcomers to the team, and have been key performers this season, many are concerned with the overall age of the team and the eventual retirement of star running back Jerome Bettis.When asked for a comment on Monday, Cowher stated that he was preparing to play the Cincinnati Bengals and that was all he would say about the rumors. The Steelers are 2.5 point favorites in their wild card playoff game against the Bengals on Sunday. Based on previous coaching changes, some form of draft pick compensation will likely be required if Kansas City is able to lure Cowher from Pittsburgh. A similar scenario occurred when the Tampa Bay Buccaneers were able to pry John Gruden from the Oakland Raiders in 2003 following Super Bowl XXXVII. Quote
SteelMagnolia Posted January 3, 2006 Report Posted January 3, 2006 Hey, I am in Pittsburgh and I seriously doubt this story. Sure on the Steeler's message boards, fans call to get rid of him every other week, but then fans are fickle and emotions run high on boards. (I would say this is true for all teams, not just the Steelers) The fans also call for him to stop playing such a predictable game plan, but he hasn't accommodated them in that now has he? LOL I mean my grandma can glance up at the TV from her knitting for one second and tell you what play they are about to do. The bottom line is that the Rooneys aren't going to fire him and I think that knowledge lightens the pressure so I can't see him leaving on his own. Anything can happen in the game of football, so I could be wrong, but my first instinct in reading this post is that it isn't true. Quote
cincy9275 Posted January 3, 2006 Report Posted January 3, 2006 who cares i don't if the man wants to change jobs let him, if he don't fine by me. he is a good coach regardless Quote
NJ29 Posted January 3, 2006 Report Posted January 3, 2006 Allow me to add some info here in bold for you to better understand this article.From AP Sources: PITTSBURGH, PA-Low level rumors <-a bunch of grumbling fans said regarding the future of Steelers head coach Bill Cowher continue to resurface a day after the league completed week 17. While the team clinched the final wild card birth in the AFC, team officials were trying to downplay reports of Cowher's possible exit from his native Pittsburgh.With the expected resignation of Dick Vermeil after the Chiefs final game on Sunday, Cowher's name has surfaced as a possible candidate to replace him. He has a history with Kansas City, as he was the Chiefs defensive coordinator for Marty Schottenheimer before taking the Pittsburgh job after the 1991 season. Embattled Jets coach Herman Edwards is also an early candidate for the vacancy should he be released by the Jets.Insiders say that team officials and some coaches have grown weary of Cowher's style and personality. While he is one of the most successful coaches over the last decade and a half, the Steelers have only been to one Super Bowl since Cowher took the reigns from Chuck Noll in 1992.Cowher has privately told them that at times he feels burdened by the pressure of coaching his hometown team. His failure to win the Super Bowl and cement his legend has eluded him as well. These sources also say that some team officials are still bitter over the loss to the New England Patriots last season when the Steelers had homefield advantage after a 15-1 record.His reluctance to deviate from the power running game has left some insiders frustrated with the direction of the team. While QB Ben Roethlisberger and RB Willie Parker are newcomers to the team, and have been key performers this season, many are concerned with the overall age of the team and the eventual retirement of star running back Jerome Bettis.When asked for a comment on Monday, Cowher stated that he was preparing to play the Cincinnati Bengals and that was all he would say about the rumors. The Steelers are 2.5 point favorites in their wild card playoff game against the Bengals on Sunday.Based on previous coaching changes, some form of draft pick compensation will likely be required if Kansas City is able to lure Cowher from Pittsburgh. A similar scenario occurred when the Tampa Bay Buccaneers were able to pry John Gruden from the Oakland Raiders in 2003 following Super Bowl XXXVII.what he said. Quote
membengal Posted January 3, 2006 Report Posted January 3, 2006 Yeah, jjak and I are not stupid. I understand what "AP sources" are. I was more questioning the whole story, which is why I went looking for a link. My inability to find one, and jjak's inability as well, tells me what I need to know about that piece. Fake. Quote
jjakq27 Posted January 3, 2006 Author Report Posted January 3, 2006 Yeah, jjak and I are not stupid. I understand what "AP sources" are. I was more questioning the whole story, which is why I went looking for a link. My inability to find one, and jjak's inability as well, tells me what I need to know about that piece. Fake. Probably is. I will try to backtrack through my friend and see if he can come up with the original source. However, I could see why KC would be interested. His track record speaks for itself. Plus his connection and success with the team in the late 80's and early 90's is an obvious benefit. He knows the family and the organization and how they want things to run. The only downside would be that he has done it his way for so long at Pittsburgh, he may not want to conform to something that occurred 15 years ago.I am guessing that either Gunther Cunningham gets a shot or Edwards is hired if he leaves the Jets. Quote
Riagogogoindanati Posted January 3, 2006 Report Posted January 3, 2006 Hey, I am in Pittsburgh and I seriously doubt this story. Sure on the Steeler's message boards, fans call to get rid of him every other week, but then fans are fickle and emotions run high on boards. (I would say this is true for all teams, not just the Steelers) The fans also call for him to stop playing such a predictable game plan, but he hasn't accommodated them in that now has he? LOL I mean my grandma can glance up at the TV from her knitting for one second and tell you what play they are about to do. The bottom line is that the Rooneys aren't going to fire him and I think that knowledge lightens the pressure so I can't see him leaving on his own. Anything can happen in the game of football, so I could be wrong, but my first instinct in reading this post is that it isn't true.ONLY QUOTING THE OBVIOUS:on the Steeler's message boards, fans call to get rid of him every other week, but then fans are fickle ON THE BANDWAGON...OFF THE BANDWAGON................MAKE UP YOUR MINDS. Quote
HoosierCat Posted January 3, 2006 Report Posted January 3, 2006 From AP Sources:I doubt it, unless the AP has forgotten grammer and spelling...PITTSBURGH, PA-Low level rumors regarding the future of Steelers head coach Bill Cowher continue to resurfaceRumors don't "continue to resurface." The may surface and resurface, and even continue to surface, but not continue to resurface.While the team clinched the final wild card birthberthEmbattled Jets coach Herman Edwards is also an early candidate for the vacancy should he be released by the Jets.Edwards isn't "embattled," in fact Woody Johnson has said he would give him a raise if anyone tried to steal him.the Steelers have only been to one Super Bowl since Cowher took the reigns from Chuck Noll in 1992.reinsHis failure to win the Super Bowl and cement his legend has eluded him as well.Sentence is garbled, no editor would pass it. His failure has eluded him? Say again?Based on previous coaching changes, some form of draft pick compensation will likely be required if Kansas City is able to lure Cowher from Pittsburgh.The NFL has banned the practice of trading picks for coaches.As amusing as this might be, it looks 100% bogus to me. Quote
duus Posted January 3, 2006 Report Posted January 3, 2006 Surely, from a Bengal fan perspective, I would love for Cowher to leave as he seems to have been able to consistently win against the division foes.Yet, from the perspective of a guy that just hates Pittsburgh and all it has to offer (little), I say keep him forever! Allow him to hang out another 15 years! That way, in 2020 they can still be heard whining the phrase, "One for the thumb". And, maybe, just maybe, Bengal fans will be sporting a ring or two themselves! That would be just fine in my book. Quote
HairOnFire Posted January 4, 2006 Report Posted January 4, 2006 The NFL has banned the practice of trading picks for coaches. I don't think that's 100% accurate. Pretty sure you can still make trades involving coaches but the deal has to be approved by the NFL. Most people who bother reading between the lines think this means the days of trading multiple 1st round picks for a head coach are long gone. BTW, the rumor I keep bumping into is Herm Edwards to KC in exchange for one or two mid round draft picks. The NFL Network even went so far as to claim that both teams are engaged in active negotiations and Edwards will be allowed to move if compensation can be worked out. I've heard nothing about Cowher moving on. Quote
Dan2330 Posted January 4, 2006 Report Posted January 4, 2006 What was the name of that New York Times reporter that was 'making up' stories again?................ Quote
andybren Posted January 4, 2006 Report Posted January 4, 2006 Obviously fake. But I guess you don't have to reach typical journalistic standards to fool Steeler fans.Wouldn't it be nice if they promoted Dick LeBeau? Then all we'd need is the Genius to name Kyle Boller his 1st string quarterback again. Quote
HoosierCat Posted January 4, 2006 Report Posted January 4, 2006 The NFL has banned the practice of trading picks for coaches.I don't think that's 100% accurate. Pretty sure you can still make trades involving coaches but the deal has to be approved by the NFL. Most people who bother reading between the lines think this means the days of trading multiple 1st round picks for a head coach are long gone. The NFL, prodded in part by league gossip writer Mike Florio over at PFT.com, has been hedging on the issue in the last day or two. As you probably remember, the league office said after the whole Gruden mess in '03 that there was to be no more trades on coaches for draft picks. Now they're saying that that wasn't quite what they meant. They only meant to say you can't trade picks for assistants and coordinators; these guidelines were never meant to apply to head coaches.Never mind that the rule was made right after a head coach got swapped for draft picks, and off the top of my head I can't recall a team ever giving up picks for an assistant or OC.I've heard the same rumors regarding Edwards and KC, but Jets owner Woody Johnson is pretty adamant about keeping him. The thinking among the NYC sportswriter community is that Herm is playing Woody like the proverbial fiddle in order to get a raise (he's one of the lowest paid coaches) and/or an extension. Quote
walshfan Posted January 4, 2006 Report Posted January 4, 2006 Rooneys may be more loyal than Mikey... Cowher stays and stays for a long long time..... Quote
jjakq27 Posted January 5, 2006 Author Report Posted January 5, 2006 This should end any of the speculation. Herm Edwards looks to be headed to KC.http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/5221872 Quote
walshfan Posted January 5, 2006 Report Posted January 5, 2006 Jets may offer Edwards more money that KC.. could be a leverage thing ... Herm likes New York and the limelight there... Quote
jjb10588 Posted January 5, 2006 Report Posted January 5, 2006 Its great for the chiefs but i dont think anyone will be able to replace D. Vermeil, no one could have built that team better than him, its sad to see him go but Cowher is also a great asset to have on any team. Quote
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